Ur opinion:SSO choosing Annika over NKK

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Posted: 7 years ago

Just a thought crossed my mind and wanted to know ur opinions..😆

I mentioned abt this on edt, but only one answered it. So wanted more opinions abt it.

Did anyone think that SSO will not return after it was revealed to him that Annika is actually an orphan n she has no NKK...??

I personally thought he would not leave her side and would definitely come back for her. But didn't think he would just shove Nkk aside once n for all. But he did it..👏👏👏

To elaborate,..I thought he would come back and accept her immediately. But still I thought, he would be fighting within himself to come over Nkk. N seeing and understanding his struggle, I thought Annika would distance herself from SSO. But I'm surprised by the excellent writing which hs gave. He struggled but not whether to choose her or Nkk but whether to find out abt her past,Nkk or not. While doing it, he was sure and decided with his brain and heart that whatever maybe her past,Nkk he would live this relationship and keep the relationship alive.

And that was where came the dialogue, when he said if she wants to fight,stay angry or whatever, she should do it staying in OM n in the room and not by going out from home.

P.s. strictly my pov and please no mocking,bashing,snide comments in this post abt any characters. Stay away from this post if u know u r going to do that😊

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Sahana

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Posted: 7 years ago

This is an fav scene of mine 😳 😳 More on it 2moro early morning Indu 😉

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cestlavie

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Posted: 7 years ago

Well said Indy! I actually thought he might pick NKK at first but then when I saw his struggle ( and if you think back to the initial days, it was always "Annika ki baat alag hai). So I began to think that he would accept her but would fight himself, he couldn't let go of her and his NKK was deeply embedded within him!

He progressed and that's what matters, but I'm still curious when was it that he let NKK go? Was it during NT track/ the MS episodes where we saw him becoming an ishqbaaaz? Or was it after finding out what Pinky mata had done?

Joh bhi hai, the progression he has shown is so darn beautiful and the way they built Shivika is definitely a blessing to be able to witness it on our screens!!

Fab post dear 👏

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AreYaar

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Posted: 7 years ago

Arey waah a rare Shivika discussion thread in this forum after ages. Nice topic, Indira :).

Reserved for now. I shall try to add my thoughts in more detail soon.

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Ahh the wonderful questions about the evolution of Billu's NKK...probably my fav. Billu related topic to discuss😆...I genuinely feel this fueled a lot of the good early discussion in the forum before the writing got messier.

Coming to the topic at hand...I don't think the issue during the NT track was about whether he will push aside NKK for her once and for all...him investigating her background, needing to KNOW what her past is very much still PART of his NKK issues...for NKK wasn't simply about accepting/not accepting her lack of lineage in one fell swoop...it was an organic/evolving/multi-faceted issue.

For most of the time that Shivaay knew and gradually fell in love with Anika, he was constantly battling his helpless love for her alongside his inability to reconcile it with his belief system regarding NKK.

The best example of this is the "controversial" scene when he talked about his struggle with not being able to see the mother of his children in her...where he admitted that they share something special but this one issue still holds him back.

Later on, the biwi declaration became a major milestone where he was able to publicly and PROUDLY accept her as his wife without letting his usual NKK hangups come in the way...but still, it didn't exactly eradicate NKK...cuz IMO NKK would always remain a fundamental part of his personality, just mellowed out over time especially in context of Anika...

In the jungle track, Shivaay explained just WHY he needed to dig up her background...cuz he just needs to KNOW...he cannot change this about himself...what would he do AFTER knowing, THAT he didn't know...all he knew was that he needed to KNOW a person's background, lineage to be associating with them...the very reason he felt the need to do this at that time was due to just how close he'd grown to her...The SSO cared SO deeply about a person who's background he knew nothing about...it was a hard reality to reconcile with...so he had to try to atleast find things...

Along the way though we got some BEAUTIFULLY textured scenes showing both Shivaay and even Anika later on struggling with knowledge about each other's pasts that they felt might be a blow to each other...we even got a brief moment where ANIKA got to be judgemental about the lineage/mannerisms of a person below her social strata...i.e. NT...I thought these were very interesting and human touches to add along the way in this journey.

And later on, when Shivaay found out about Anika's struggles as an orphan, the way she literally spent nights on the streets, without food...his heavy guilt in that moment...the way he spoke to Rudy that day showing his deep regrets...somewhere along the way, without being overt about it, Shivaay developed an immense RESPECT for Anika's strength of character, her fighting spirit...and every time he learnt new details of her struggles, he only felt more humbled...bit by bit, it MELLOWED his NKK...Again, it's all due to and FOR Anika...she is the grand exception to his NKK rules...

Cuz let's remember the Pinky OMM scenes...again Shivaay reiterated the point about the impact his mother's upbringing had on him...making him so rigid and judgemental about NKK...but at the same time he always had his Daadi's values inside himself...again, a reference to the two warring sides of Shivaay's basic nature that he struggled with for a long time...and it made for some very interesting viewing.

Off late ofcourse, his relationship with Anika took on whole new facets, mellowed out his personality in a whole new way...NKK right now is just the glint of tadi that comes out from him...lol...the rest of his hyper judgemental ways have taken a backseat in many ways...perhaps NKK is gone for good now...lol but personally I always wanted to see his NKK-ness balanced out with his love for Anika...his flaws balanced out with the immense love/compassion he's capable of when he loves with all his heart.

I guess this became a bit of a rambling essay...haha but it was fun to reminisce old scenes :)

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blackorwhite

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: cestlavie

He progressed and that's what matters, but I'm still curious when was it that he let NKK go? Was it during NT track/ the MS episodes where we saw him becoming an ishqbaaaz? Or was it after finding out what Pinky mata had done?

@bold I personally feel with respect to Anika - His NKK took a BACK SEAT a looong time ago.. Daksh MU/hate wedding had nothing to do with NKK.. He had started respecting Anika as an individual since before the jo bheji thi dua first rain scene.. Yes... he was in situations where his family took precedence over Anika... and yes he took time accepting Anika as his biwi VERBALLY... So, I would say Biwi declaration was when he OFFICIALLY crossed the NKK barrier.. 😆😆 but even this NKK evolution was soo organic that it is difficult to pin-point..

IMO, Shivaay searching for/investigating about Anika's family before Jungle track had more to do with his curiosity about Anika's past rather than NKK.. NT track just showed us how he had grown as character and evolved his NKK philosophy.. Seperation had nothing to do with NKK.. Pinky OMM did questioned his NKK.. but I don't think it changed his opinions about Anika and her lack of NKK because he had already accepted her! 😊

TM(Indy) nice post.. Still collecting my thoughts! :) Will try to respond later!

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@Reeltoreal

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Posted: 7 years ago

Indira love you for this post...i will give you my take but it might go longer if i go over board with my you know what it is ...

I think the letting go of NKK started with the Daksh reveal...remember him saying to Daksh'Meri Biwi ko haath kaise lagayaa...Shivay singh oberoi ki biwi ko haath kaise lagayaa"...he was not aware of it but the moment he said meri biwi ...he willingly accepted her in his life .

When the drama took over even then when he forced her to sign the divorce papers...he still did not sign them..he was not willing to let go even then...so he faked it for all...the fake signing.

Next was Anika staking claim as his wife n on his room in Tia's presence still he stood aside not saying a word enjoying her doing OMM of Tia never once negating her claim...he did not understand what was happening but to both of them it felt so right.

The jungle incident where both of them nearly got killed...he shouts at her for taking this marriage seriously then the moment he saw her tears...he understood what he said n apologised even while he was suffering...he said he did not mean it really...n true he did not 😆

Then the protective singh Oberoi rises to the occassion...when ever Anika was accused he stood by her then finally took a bullet for her.

When she was thrown out mercilessly by his mom...he went out n got her home...he stood against his mom n he did not think twice before saying" Mujhe tumhari zaroorat hain Anika"..he who never asked just took asked her to come back...literally begged her to come back stating various reasons n making all her arguments moot. ...he felt her place was with him , next to him though he found it tough to call her Biwi... Two most important women in my life he says I had to choose one was what he said n we all know who he chose.

Even during the fake ML track he was making sure she was doing ok n was busy playing Faraq games than paying attention to their mission ...😆 hell he even packed bags to leave OM bcos she was making things tough for him while faking it...oh god i do love this guy so much.

The big reveal Jo kuch hamare beech hain woh Sirf hamara hain . Anika sirf Anika nahin hain...Anika Shivay singh oberoi...my lawfully wedded wife can any one really negate the beauty of that declaration and that scene...[ tumhari Izzat meri Izzat hain anika

That beautiful Declaration of Addat daalo ab tumhe isi Tadibazz ke saath rehna hainfollowed by the very first you are mine I am yours Hug.

The Jungle gymboree where he says you are right Anika what we have is so beautiful...I will do all I can to preserve this.

Then the NKK drama fueled by Pinks Moms ...n the scene you posted Indira...

I ask where did NKK figure in any of the scenes mentioned above. He never gave it a thought after Daksh reveal...even that brief struggle was for ok let me do the realty check what I cannot do with out is it Anika or NKK so he came back...to him hands down it was Anika.

He cannot do without her..he is nothing with out her. NKK is his disease he thinks I can find a cure for it with her by my side. simple yet very very important.

So to me The NKK became moot on the day Daksh misunderstanding cleared up... there was never anything that could come between Him n Anika not even NKK.

Phew that was a very big reply to your post...but kya karoo I love SSO n Shivika too much...n their journey is really something all cannot understand...gentle yet poignant. Soulful yet playful, happy n angst filled, romantic yet sensitive . so yes i can go on n on but i will put a stop here.

LOL Indira finally you made me write a essay too 😆

Edited by yash2010 - 7 years ago

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@Reeltoreal

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Posted: 7 years ago

Look at these two ..kahin pe bhi shuru hojaate hain...how can you not love them ❤️

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swash2

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Posted: 7 years ago

I always figured that going behind NKK was him shielding himslef mentally from falling for her! Right from day 1, she was special!

One who questioned his every move, ridiculed him and dared him and even put him in his place right in front of his family!

Even Pinky relied on Annika to convince Shivaay for some wedding related stuff.

He hated himself for liking her and quoting NKK was his way of protecting himself! But that never stopped him for caring for her and keeping her close!

Even after the jabardasti shaadi, he could have made arrangements to keep her financially secure (not that our Annika would have accepted)!

Especially when he felt guilt knowing Sahil was physically challenged! At every instance thereafter, he made sure she stayed in OM!

What was the need to lie to her saying he had sold of her house? Something in him refused to let her go! Just that he was still besotted with her at the same time furious that she has cheated him/his possessiveness with Daksh! All the while being engaged to Tia!

Yash, love each and every scene you have mentioned! His NKK fixation was a battle within himself!

He did believe in NKK as he proved with that Chaddhas alliance for the now forgotten Prinku; it had been instilled in him by Pinky since young; but when it came to Annika, it was love over dimaag!

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yellomellow

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Posted: 7 years ago

I have been staying away from the forum as a fan that loves all the character it's been too negative for me. So, thanks for posting a regular discussion post.

For me, sometimes it seemed more like than an issue of pride than NKK for Shivaay. It's obvious he liked her even before Daksh came into the picture, but he couldn't accept it because of

1.he didn't seem to believe in romantic feelings or love because of the horrible marriages he witnessed since childhood, which is a common thread in shaping ShivOmRu's personalities. They were derived of seeing normal healthy relationships whether it was between a parent and their child or a wife and a husband. All they had was Daadi, who loved them conditionally and saw the best in the them and each other, which is really sad. I wish OBros and Daadi's relationship was explored more. I loved the scenes in the initial episodes of all four of them being together.

2. his obligation to Tia a.k.a the 3600 crore deal 😆 It's not like he liked Tia or was fond of her.He wanted to expand his empire and a marriage of convenience with no feelings involved where he is in control.

3. her social class and the principles Pinky taught him as a child.

The way he behaved like a child following Anika around interacting with her, fighting her, and calling whenever she wasn't around. She was supposedly beneath him, but he was fascinated by her and everything she did. He wanted her around him, but he thought whatever he felt for her was a passing stage and that eventually when he got married then he would no longer think about her. The reality is he liked her first and he was the one that realized it first too. The whole "you like me" projecting his feeling onto her during the first KC car ride or the breakfast date when he assumed she was proposing and he was actually considering her marriage offer without realizing.

As for the scene you mentioned, I think he was over NKK in terms of Anika a long time ago, but he and the some of the audience didn't realize it. Like Rani's post said water is wet,grass is green, and Shivaay is over NKK 😆 I wasn't actually surprised that he came back for her and comforted her. He came to terms with her being from a middle class family so the truth came as a shock, but I never thought he wouldn't come back for her or that he would reject her because she was an orphan.Honestly, he couldn't truly believe in NKK or hold them to heart if he fell in love with Anika in the first place, right? Maybe like Anika he believed in love, but he didn't want it. I think even if Anika was khandani he would still fight his feelings for her. Mallika was perfect in terms of everything, but he wasn't romantically interested in her. He went for Tia, who he clearly didn't respect or like for a reason.

Shivaay has always been a complex character and a bit different from other MLs. Minus TRP friendly some scenes and his anger issues he is actually a really nice guy 😆 He is authoritative, but he always spoke politely to those supposedly beneath him in social status. He didn't seem to have a problem with people unless his family was involved or he felt like he was being challenged. Things always go his way and here comes Anika who challenged his beliefs, his actions, and his entire way of life lol. It was weird, but funny seeing him behaving so childishly when he used to fight with Anika.

There are so many different sides of him like the recent adorable morning scene. It was so endearing to see him relying Daadi's words like a child and being lazy for once. He freaked out when he fell asleep on her lap then and now he wants to lounge in bed all day with her lol. Watching the older episodes now I wonder if the NKK obsession was a defensive mechanism to protect his fragile heart. He protects his whole family, but let's be honest he is only emotionally attached to Omru and Daadi. He can be cold and unfeeling without hesitation like he is used to being disappointed in people like someone who saw the worst in people on daily basis(his parents,Tejvi, and shady business people). At the same time, he can be easy going and friendly with strangers when he is happy. My mom always jokes that he has the power to make your day(and the episode) if he is in a good mood and ruin it if he isn't lol. She calls him the moodmaker. He is a really odd character that you can't quite figure out no matter how hard you try 😆

Edited by yellomellow - 7 years ago