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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey there all the lovely people!!
Me is back with my nonsense post. Apologies for being late.
Direct to discussion.


~ ik ishq ka gham aafat aur uss pe ye dil aafat
Ya gham na diya hota ya dil na diya hota ~

Music and dance have been always been a medium of expression, to express oneself with a passionate intensity.
Kanak stands in his way, interrupting the procession, she wouldn't let go, she is drunk on her gham' she confesses that Uma is the bestest husband, a good human being, who is staunch on his dharm but doesn't take a moment to apologize if he realizes his mistake. In short Kanak gives an epic ode to Uma Shankar... it's for the first time she acknowledges her husband's name, she calls herself not Kanak Rathi But Kanak Umashankar Toshniwal - that alone should have been a wake up call for Uma, that this time Kanak has even given up her quest for her individual identity... Kanak confesses her love in front of the entire world, and starts dancing.

Uma is conflicted, harrowed and beaten down by the constant pressure to be with Kanak or to stand with his vachan, for a moment he is about to step down to stop Kanak from making a scene in front of the world, yet Massi stops his movement reminding him of the promise - the procession moves forward and Kanak is left behind - this is the apparent bleak future, that Uma is about to move on in life, and Kanak would be left behind alone.. she is drugged and staggered behind, watching and pleading Uma one last time. Uma gets off and takes her hand and brings her to a side only to announce that she is inebriated and she cannot enter the house - dude she is intoxicated out of her mind, she is creating a scene and you just left her outside with Gabbasa... at that moment to Uma was harsh and hard, it's not that he should have melted like wax and spread on her feet, but he could have made better efforts than just leaving her out like a commoner... - that's the result of his own vachan.. he had to move on in his life without or without his choice, but he moved on and he left her behind initially and despite her efforts, he took her by hand and took her to the door and left her alone.
He walks into the house, it's his house yet he walks with a certain hesitancy, there is a silence prevalent - that is his life, his future empty like that hall without Kanak. He remembers her words, her confession of love, yet he walks and sits. He sits with determination, he understands the silence around him, the hung faces but he is resisting - I wonder how exactly would he be fulfilling his dharm when he is not interested, his family is not happy, it's not that things should be molded as per convenience but why can't he look beyond his words... he is affected by Kanak, he loves her to an eternity yet he is still sitting there.
While Kanak has been kidnapped as per Aditya's plan.. he was the one who drugged her.


Ps- loved the way Suman stood up to Palomi, it's the bitter truth of life... one cannot make ones own castles on the ashes of someone else's world... the victory would only be momentary but the reality of suffering would be for a life time... a person can only be bitter by the constant rejection, the feeling of not being good enough gnaws at the soul and feeds the monster of hate - Palomi thinks that she is going to own Uma and with time everything would be alright, she has done so much seva for him - Palomi's understanding is one dimensional, a regressive mindset that the man matters, not his heart or mind.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Uma is a turtle...hard exterior, glacial in speed, but a softy who wins at the end.

Palomi and Maasi think Uma is a robotic possession not living breathing human

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


Uma is a turtle...hard exterior, glacial in speed, but a softy who wins at the end.

Palomi and Maasi think Uma is a robotic possession not living breathing human




Hey there Anjana

Tortoise, yes indeed Uma would win, slow and steady wins the race.

Where as Massi and Palomi are people who cannot value a person as human, but as a commodity to be sold and bought. A robot made to do as instructed..

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear Blueflames,
It was a depressing episode but i liked your post much better as always.

Today the interesting part to me was Vansh behavior, he wants to enter good books of Uma, so immediately holds hands with Saras. I feel Vansh behaves like psycho lover sometimes for sake of his sister. As long as kanak is treated well by Uma, Saras will be treated fine, anything going wrong Saras faces the impact!😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: savithp

Dear Blueflames,

It was a depressing episode but i liked your post much better as always.

Today the interesting part to me was Vansh behavior, he wants to enter good books of Uma, so immediately holds hands with Saras. I feel Vansh behaves like psycho lover sometimes for sake of his sister. As long as kanak is treated well by Uma, Saras will be treated fine, anything going wrong Saras faces the impact!😭



Hey there
Thank you for reading and commenting. Much appreciated.

I don't think Vansh consciously held Saras' hand, it was more like he was holding on to Saras, grasping her hand for warmth and support, it was a difficult time for him watching his sister suffering for her love and he was latching on to Saras more for support.
When Uma said that Vansh himself was standing on the edge with divorce, and he never had concern for Saras, Vansh didn't bargain to swap happiness... he was ready to trade misery earlier but today he couldn't do business about their happiness. He couldn't say that I would love/ accept Saras If you do too.
That's Vansh changed.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Awesome analysis blue!! Very heartbreaking episode, kanak try everything to stop this marriage, she is broken inside but still put on a brave face and stand infront of the baarat. Today she confess her love in font of the whole world, she was telling everyone what uma means to her, bestest husband, best brother and best son . Uma is hard wall but softest heart, he is pure gem ,wonderful human being...she open her heart out in front of all. Kanak was crying but still dance in his baarat. Everyone was stunned, for the first time kanak announced her name as Mrs. Kanak Umashankar Toshnowal, she realized real value of love which is beyond every identity. Uma was shattered inside he almost try to get down but masi stop him in name of vachan. There is huge storm inside, he just want to run away from the situation but can't. The thought of separation killing him like a slow poison, he try to convince himself to compromise and move on but he can't so does kanak. She is still in shock at one point she thought uma will stop the marriage but he didn't, he hold her hand and take her and ask gabbasa to look after her and she can't come inside since she is intoxicated or actually he is making a excuse so that kanak's presence scared him, making him weak.
Vansh try to convice uma but he couldn't. Kanak realized that it's too late now and ask vansh to attend payal and ved's marriage. Masi was scared inside, she knows if kanak came inside uma might break and cancel the marriage so she asked gabbasa to take kanak to different haveli. Aditya spiked kanak's sharbat and kidnap her. Uma was scared to enter his own house and missing kanak, the beautiful moments he spend with her. Love suman today, she show Palomi her real place.
I was wondering in precap uma was feeling restless and kanak is in danger, even kanak's mangalsutra was stuck on uma's gathbandhan...how come mangalsutra landed there? It was shivji sanket , even God wants to help kanum...I am sure uma will see the mangalsutra and realize that kanak:s life in danger or something wrong is going to happen with her. Uma knows kanak never ever remove her mangalsutra. Can't wait for tomorrow.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Blue
It's been I while since I commented, but the episodes have been very depressing to watch.
My view is that Uma & his family have been influenced by the British. He is showing his Stiff upper lip , no matter what the situation I will pull through & massi - operates on divide & rule,. Which she has done superbly by splitting KanUm.

The man is Ice at the moment how can he not be affected by what is going on around him. Even Lord Krishna said don't make vows you cannot keep, and Uma is in that category.

All things aside how is he being fair to everyone, he lives Kanak , but will marry another & make 3 people unhappy. If that is his dharma good luck to him.

I know everything will be ok in the end but he really fell in my books today. Kanak is fighting for him & he is just standing there like some puppet.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Blue
Beautiful Analysis u exactly brought out the inner conflicts of uma and kanak .Overall a heartbreaking episode Kanak was totally broken down but she does not want to give up she was fighting till the last moments to save her life.Her dance brought out all her emotions she wants to open her heart for once for all she acknowledged uma as best pati for first time not only pati best bhai best beta .So uma has played all roles with perfection .He is a perfectionist a gem with amazing good qualities he appears to be very strict tough person hot headed and madly bounded by dharam but inside he is the most soft person very emotional and sensitive kanak had understood him well this is what uma was expecting from her now he has achieved the great credit from his wife but everything is out of hands now.Uma one look is like speaking out thousand words .Av expression was outstanding .Rhea performance was wonderful her dance body language her expressions were all mindblowing .One last time she confessed her love for her husband in front of entire ladnun.So she has crossed all her inhibitations to express her love that was last try she was making uma to break down .Uma was almost in verge of breaking down he was almost in tears .Kanak highlighted that even though he is bounded by dharam knowingly or unknowingly makes a mistake if he realizes it he would apologize and regret without any ego I feel this is the best quality of human being to accepts the mistakes and tries to correct it.Kanak almost sacrificed everything right from her tea,eating onions ,mobile,her fav movies filmy songs almost all of her interest but as u said yesterday blue she changed herself willingly without any force she gave up everything for her loved ones that show how kanak respects her relationship .Their true love crossed
all the boundaries .Now she even gave up her maiden name her love made her to give up her separate identity too .
Uma was expecting all this from her he has achieved everything but their relationship is lost now .I seriously didn't like the scene uma behaving so rude with her asking her to stay away from the marriage is he showing her that he can no more be part of her life he has moved on in his life he is breaking the promise of protecting her is his vachan so important above all what he is going to achieve fulfilling that vachan after killing his loved one heart.last scene was marvellous that empty hall is depicting his future life his life is going to be empty without kanak becos she was the one who made his life colourful full of life he enjoyed every moment with her now he feels he is lifeless a body without soul he has missed his soulmate .Is both of them ready to accept their destiny or they are expecting some magic will happen kanak in her part she tried her level best to save her relationship but uma is stuck up in his vachan hope he realizes that love is above all vachan and dharam.Suman dialogues were bang on she is trying to put some sense into palomi that uma will never and ever accept her as his wife no one can take kanak place in his life she can never win heart becos his heart is no more with him.Palomi is obsessed and mad woman how can she lead a happy life after destroying ones life .What she is going to achieve in the endv?How one side love can win ?She is just in her dreams failing to see the reality of her future. Vansh holding Saras hands shows a man needs his wife support when he is emotionally weak.But for kanum they are facing Agnipariksha now they can't even support each other emotionally at this hard times of their life .

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear Blue

Wonderful analysis dear. It's a heart breaking episode. Kanak praised Uma. Actually I guess this is the first time she praised him before him. I loved all the praises Kanak gave to Uma. With each line, Uma's heart is sink further and further with pain. Initially Uma is angry but now only a pretence on his face not to show how broken he is. Uma's eye reddened with unshed tears. But still he is sitting there on that horse and ready to follow whatever needed.

In earlier episodes Uma mentioned Pain is very common to him. When Kanak ran away his reaction to that pain is like frozen. Second time when Kanak said she is not returning to Ladno, then also there are no tears. I am not saying he didn't felt anything at that time but Uma also changed gradually. He is being expressive every day and his understanding about love is increasing day by day.

We read lots of books and watch lots shows and movies. As we pass through each love story, we will form how love should be. Kanak said once to Uma that a girl will make a picture in her mind of her bridegroom from childhood. It's not only true for girls but also to boys. Over the years, we will all form how love should be from what we read , watched and liked. In that sense Uma is very much illiterate in love matters. He is simple and here he's been definitely put into biggest conflict of his life. Uma also treats his Dharm as his own identity. He's been taught " Pran jaye per vachan na jaye" (You can she d your life but not your promise) from childhood. Yes, he gave Vachan to kanak too about 7 janm's relationship. But he need to give this Vachan to Massisa because of that same relationship. It's not easy to break that promise however we want him to. And Kanak herself aware of this all before wiping away their relationship. She should have reminded him this vachan when he is giving that vachan to Massisa. Because all of this happened before Kanak. Honestly Kanak, you are only going to get 100% Uma and 50% property with lots of heart break to you and us viewers.

I still liked the way he got down and made sure Kanak is looked after. He is not hard but he is simple.
Only thing he can think of now is he need to fulfil that promise even it kills him. But on the same note, whether he can bare Kanak in life threatening situation and not react?

I believe if you ever want to know how important a person is imagine there are no longer in this world and you will know how important they are. We may have 100 silly arguments or a thousand right fights but when you see your loved one in danger, you will be scared to death more than when you are in danger yourself. At the same time you will feel their value in your life beyond everything that you value.

Uma knows he loves Kanak but he always thought his first love is Dharm. But love had it's own way to go to top of priorities without you realising it and hopefully this is high time Uma realise his love for Kanak is beyond every thing even his Dharm. In this regard I liked Cvs approach. Hope they don't drag too much because I am dying to see the great Uma Shankar Toshniwal's love confession.


Is it too dreamy?
Edited by manasa.123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: manasa.123

Dear Blue

Wonderful analysis dear. It's a heart breaking episode. Kanak praised Uma. Actually I guess this is the first time she praised him before him. I loved all the praises Kanak gave to Uma. With each line, Uma's heart is sink further and further with pain. Initially Uma is angry but now only a pretence on his face not to show how broken he is. Uma's eye reddened with unshed tears. But still he is sitting there on that horse and ready to follow whatever needed.

In earlier episodes Uma mentioned Pain is very common to him. When Kanak ran away his reaction to that pain is like frozen. Second time when Kanak said she is not returning to Ladno, then also there are no tears. I am not saying he didn't felt anything at that time but Uma also changed gradually. He is being expressive every day and his understanding about love is increasing day by day.

We read lots of books and watch lots shows and movies. As we pass through each love story, we will form how love should be. Kanak said once to Uma that a girl will make a picture in her mind of her bridegroom from childhood. It's not only true for girls but also to boys. Over the years, we will all form how love should be from what we read , watched and liked. In that sense Uma is very much illiterate in love matters. He is simple and here he's been definitely put into biggest conflict of his life. Uma also treats his Dharm as his own identity. He's been taught " Pran jaye per vachan na jaye" (You can she d your life but not your promise) from childhood. Yes, he gave Vachan to kanak too about 7 janm's relationship. But he need to give this Vachan to Massisa because of that same relationship. It's not easy to break that promise however we want him to. And Kanak herself aware of this all before wiping away their relationship. She should have reminded him this vachan when he is giving that vachan to Massisa. Because all of this happened before Kanak. Honestly Kanak, you are only going to get 100% Uma and 50% property with lots of heart break to you and us viewers.

I still liked the way he got down and made sure Kanak is looked after. He is not hard but he is simple.
Only thing he can think of now is he need to fulfil that promise even it kills him. But on the same note, whether he can bare Kanak in life threatening situation and not react?

I believe if you ever want to know how important a person is imagine there are no longer in this world and you will know how important they are. We may have 100 silly arguments or a thousand right fights but when you see your loved one in danger, you will be scared to death more than when you are in danger yourself. At the same time you will feel their value in your life beyond everything that you value.

Uma knows he loves Kanak but he always thought his first love is Dharm. But love had it's own way to go to top of priorities without you realising it and hopefully this is high time Uma realise his love for Kanak is beyond every thing even his Dharm. In this regard I liked Cvs approach. Hope they don't drag too much because I am dying to see the great Uma Shankar Toshniwal's love confession.


Is it too dreamy?



Hey there Manasa 🤗

It's a treat to read through the comments everyday.
I love how each of you interpret and visualize the each scene differently and share it here.
Thank you for such an amazing response.

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