AvNeil and the show

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I don't hold the truth, I might be wrong but I honestly think many skateholders contributed to the current state of the show: fans, CVs and Channel, why people think only one side might be responsible?!!!

  • Fans weren't patient, some asked for Juhi becoming negative, the actor eventually didn't help either
  • Cvs had to change their track and went down the cliched way, consistency was lost somewhere
  • Channel (they are the ones who decide for promos) showed these cliched promos which riled fans!

And look at the result!

But I would still say cut AvNeil some slack

Avni's state is understandable, in her own words you can understand but you can't feel what she feels unless you are in her shoes! I agree actually, unless u live urself the pain u won't be able to really feel it no matter how much u say u understand. We are highly empathetic to the people who lived the same pain as ours, so her compassion towards Mishti isn't mahanta in my opinion, she is kind of reliving her childhood pain with every incident happening in Mishti's life!

Neil has a lot on his plate, he is being cornered from all sides, yes for me he is toned down because the Neil I know would have started asking logical questions and having doubts, for example how come Vidyut always gets to know about his moves beforehand, that means there is definitely someone close to him who informs him and with the way Juhi behaved in the police station that should have alerted him, Neil has always been good with connecting the dots, in his normal state he should have done that. Yet if you see the amount of things going in his mind, you would still understand, it's normal when ur brain is under so much pressure to miss on many obvious things that u wouldn't have missed on in ur normal state, when things are personal and ur emotions are involved, then definitely your capacity of judgement isn't the same. A daughter u need to be fair with, a wife you love immensly and u don't want to lose, an ex who keeps playing the victim card and brings her sob story whenever someone tries to make her see sense, dangerous enemies who not only use ur wife's past but also have a spy in ur house, a spy you wouldn't even doubt, honestly how many of u would have doubted Juhi being in cahoots with RP/VR when u saved her from their hell!! I mean no one even in their wild imagination would believe that a person who suffered a lot at the hands of such people would help the same people! and here is where I find the change in Juhi's character abrupt and illogical!!

Anyways it's easy to play the judge when u are not living the situation urself and it's easy to judge when u know a lot of things while characters don't actually know these things...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Even though u make sense to me and i compeletly understand what r u trying to say,its still hard to watch epis after epis where Once upon a time smart people behave so clueless that u wanna bang ur head😆even though u know her truth will be exposed soon.

My only hope left with this track(or rather diminishing with every epi) is that its avneil or whole khanna family plans..otherwise any of avni sacrificial mode or neil majboori mode will be the final nail in coffin for me..no matter how much dramatically satisfying it is...when juhi truth will come out...it will be a scar forever on them atleast IMO.

Fingers crossed for a well executed track


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Okay he is in pressure with different chaotic situations. But definitely he isn't blind to see that how much juhi is creating problems with his legally weded wife staying under same roof. Any normal person how much stays under highest pressure can take a simple decision of a separation as like he can arrange an accommodation for juhi in another place with misti where he can ensure they will stay with all necessary things. N it'd be his instant step. N about society are not there many single mothers in society who are living with their children n those kids's fathers are living with their 2nd wives. N here neil has already married with avni before knowing about misti. Why society even the parents of society have no right to raise figure on neil's complicated relationships if he properly presents every thing before society. Only If neil stopped to think about juhi's well-being impulsively, these all complications, avni's humiliations would not be faced by him like mute spectator. Moreover cvs should have always kept in mind that neil isn't like other typical heroes who are directing their fathers business rather he is well trained cop who already has gotten trained how to remain cool n use brain at the time of any complications in both professional n personal life at the time of training. If I consider above points I'd like to say acp neil khanna has proved him big failure in both professional n personal life after his ex's entry in his life.
Edited by ILTHBEB - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Honestly yes I agree, if he agrees to this shaadi under any kind of majboori then that would be too cliched. The entire track is cliched and has nothing innovative, the only good thing is AvNeil' strong bonding and if he agrees to that wedding it will be a huge blow to Neil Khanna and AvNeil!

As it is he is already majboor enough now though I understand under which circumstances he is but to reach the shaadi without at least a plan is too much ( though honestly even a shaadi with a plan was already done in other shows, so it has nothing new but it would be good as a damage control)!

As I said I'm already not liking all this because Neil isn't like other heros and hence I'm very demanding, he has always been very perceptive and used to see beyond the obvious, so it's hard to digest all this especially not questioning how Vidyut gets to know about his moves. I guess this is his weakest point ever where his past and its consequences are triggering his sense of responsibility, don't forget he thinks Mishti is his daughter, and with Juhi, his expressions showed more of disbelief honestly he couldn't believe that she is actually behaving this way and uttering these words, and hadn't she been injured then I think he would have told her off though honestly the way I see Neil is he is a man of immense control over his feelings, I mean see the pattern of the times he really lashed out at someone, it was either when there was a huge risk such as when Juhi went out to bring a doll for Mishti he lashed out at her in front of everyone, then at Avni for taking Juhi to the market, then again at Juhi when she said she went to the airport, in the three cases it was because he didn't want Vidyut to know Juhi is alive which would have been very risky and it proved indeed to be! The other times he lashed out was when he felt Avni might be in danger and he lashed out at DD, when Amol once insinuated that Avni is characterless, and few times with his mom when she crossed red limits with Avni and now when Juhi called Mishti and Avni najayaaz, and obviously few times with Vidyut, otherwise he always tries to explain things in a calmer way and he tried to explain things to Juhi as well (don't forget he doesn't know her intentions yet, nor does he know she is evil, so he is still trying to understand the change in her behavior) so I would take it with a pinch of salt but to become majboor to the point of agreeing to a shaadi is a BIG NO!



Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Exactly... I was even taking an emotional neil untill now coz we know the truth he didnt...he didnt have any reason to doubt juhi coz she played victim card all this time...now he is actually seeing her for who she is.

Yes he never lashes out unless its necessary or someone is in danger...he sympathises with juhi..i get it...she had been playing them..fine...but i really hope they r going on this marriage track with a back up plan and not just on bhagwaan kare koi karishma ho jaaye types stuff.

Neil doesnt do majboori stuff and nor does avni mahaan atma...how can juhi force neil and avni to take a step and how foolish it will be for them to go along with the marriage without having any iota of thought how to stop. It.

I wish neil do more than just standing there and seeing everything get out of his hands...if they r doing sacrificial majboori drama.then avneil r better seperated unfortunately all the promises they did and vows they made will go nil
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes I agree he could have done that and had a separate accommodation for Juhi and Mishti and I believe this is what he planned once Vidyut is arrested, I doubt his intention is to keep them under the same roof. Why didn't he do it right now and had tight security for them somewhere else?! well because CVs want the drama to play in Khanna mansion, sad but true!

About training and all I guess each person has a limit, even highly trained professional people can make mistakes, I honestly wished he would have been the way he usually is, but then he is the sacrifice of this track, so they want drama to be played at his expense! I hate it to the core but it's the truth, yet if we take it from a humanly point of view we would still have an explanation to his state!


But sorry wouldn't call him a failure! This is the same man who was clear about his feelings few hours after his ex came back, he knew he wanted Avni and only Avni. About his plans they were almost always successful if it wasn't for the lie Juhi told him which gave advantage to Vidyut and Juhi always spying and helping Vidyut. Yes Neil is paying a heavy price for believing Juhi but he couldn't believe the woman he once loved (I wonder if it was really love) and who has been through a lot in Rang mahal (all this doesn't hold any sense now, Juhi lost all sympathy the day she joined hands with them) would lie to him on something as important as paternity and even worse would join hands with the very people he saved her from!




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshisfan

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Yes I agree he could have done that and had a separate accommodation for Juhi and Mishti and I believe this is what he planned once Vidyut is arrested, I doubt his intention is to keep them under the same roof. Why didn't he do it right now and had tight security for them somewhere else?! well because CVs want the drama to play in Khanna mansion, sad but true!

About training and all I guess each person has a limit, even highly trained professional people can make mistakes, I honestly wished he would have been the way he usually is, but then he is the sacrifice of this track, so they want drama to be played at his expense! I hate it to the core but it's the truth, yet if we take it from a humanly point of view we would still have an explanation to his state!


But sorry wouldn't call him a failure! This is the same man who was clear about his feelings few hours after his ex came back, he knew he wanted Avni and only Avni. About his plans they were almost always successful if it wasn't for the lie Juhi told him which gave advantage to Vidyut and Juhi always spying and helping Vidyut. Yes Neil is paying a heavy price for believing Juhi but he couldn't believe the woman he once loved (I wonder if it was really love) and who has been through a lot in Rang mahal (all this doesn't hold any sense now, Juhi lost all sympathy the day she joined hands with them) would lie to him on something as important as paternity and even worse would join hands with the very people he saved her from!




Yes he has confessed many times that his present love is avni only but these all are mere talks but from his actions he still could not enable to enlighten. That's why I've compelled to use failure because at the end of the day actions sound louder than big talks.


Edited by ILTHBEB - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

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Yes he has confessed many times that his present love is avni only but these all are mere talks but from his actions he still could not enable to enlighten. That's why I've compelled to use failure because at the end of the day actions sound louder than big talks.



Neil is a man of actions even now but I guess this is a bad phase of his life, that's all, it will allow him to get completely rid of his past once and for all.

The man should be appreciated for his honesty, in one of the best days of his life, the day Avni was going finally to confess her love for him, he had to tell her the truth about his past, he didn't cheat her or hide things from her like other men would have, it takes actually a lot of courage to tell the truth, and it actually takes even more courage to stand by what is right, he is trying hard to be fair to everyone, he thinks Mishti is his daughter, so he can't ignore her safety nor ignore Juhi no matter how much he tries at least not till she is safe as well and they find a solution to their situation, for now there is Vidyut 's danger and the way he turns situations against Neil, with media pressure and his political connections, and Juhi as a spy, Neil would obviously find it tough, yet he still tries to find ways out and Neil wasn't egoistic, seeing how much Avni suffers because of the whole situation he gave her the choice to leave him, as he knows this is not the life she deserves, he didn"t pretend being perfect or right, but Avni decided to stick by his side and to help him, I feel people should not ignore these things in their anger, yes situation is very tough but so is life!


Edited by arshisfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bang on Post..Completely agree with everything u mentioned..
I agree fans have been impatient,but was the track changed ?I dnt think so..I feel this was the story the cvs always wanted to say..At some point of time Neils ex had to b bought back on the show to spice up the drama,and wat better way cud it b other than the Rang Mahal track..I know they removed the Mandy -Amol college track,but im glad they did remove it.I read on another post their initial idea was havin Mandy being kidnapped and sent to Rang Mahal or somethin,but i dont think tat track wud have had as much affect as the Juhi- Rang Mahal track..The juhi track did bring Avneil closer..Neil has made it very clear tat he has moved on and he luvs only Avni..This is the part i luved abt this track..Their bond jus grew stronger..I agree Neil has always been shwn as an intelligent cop,but like u said there is too much on his plate now..n most importantly his emotions r takin over..All he and Avni r thinkin abt is that lille Kid..Believe me ,leaving the Juhi crap im actually likin the Mishti track,abt how Avni fears Mishti wil end up being another Ananya Verma,and how she doesnt want her to b one..
Some complained tat why neil is so dumb in beleivin Mishti is his daughter so easily..He did beleive Juhi coz she has been his luv and to question her abt Mishtis paternity is wrong aft wat she been thru in Rangmahal..
I beleive Avneil wil definitely fake this marriage drama to get Juhis truth out..I wudnt want Neil to b majboor no matter wat,coz he wil loose to Vidyut no matter if Avni finds the truth..I so want Avneil to work as a team as how they solved other cases together..Showing Neil majboor wil ruin their luv story too,so jus cossing fingers and i stil have hopes on the cvs..Namkaran has always been unique so hopin this tracks end wil please us all..There r so many other shows which drag these kinda tracks on n on for ages,but im glad ours is wrapping up better than others..And the other reason i luved this track is,not once did Neil or Avni shy away frm showin their feelings in front of Juhi,nor did Neil blame Avni for Juhis sake..Tat is definitely Nayi soch so i hope the cvs stick on to somethin unique like always
N i forgot to talk abt wat u mentioned..Yes,it takes guts to tell ur wife tat u have a kid wit ur ex the day she proposes..Shud appreciate the fact that he didnt hide it frm Avni nor did he lie to her..He told her everythin he knew..N tats the Neil khanna we all luv..Avneil has never hid anythin from each other n thats the beauty of their relationship,.
N regarding neil not reacting to wat Juhi said to Avni today ,i have a gut feeling hes upto something..Im sure he knows theres something else to the juhi whom he once loved..He wudnt dare allow any1 to talk to Avni like tat..Hopin by next week or atleast by Friday we get a clue coz Avneil n her whole gang r goin to b involved in Mission Juhi expose :))..I still feel Neils Character hasnt been butchered,neither has Avni's..When something as dreadful as her past is being dug,how can someone react..She is in a state of shock herself coz her wounds r being rubbed again..Avneil wil fight back together stronger

Edited by rosyanjalii - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Glad to see your post was waiting for you to write

You and Mandy bring a logical n positive perspective to the table always...it calms n helps to ponder deep...thanks

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