HaYa Tashan-E-Ishq Begins:Battle of Love - Page 2

Originally posted by: Pani.Puri

As usual Jyoti a brilliant write up ... Yeah I'm here to give my two cents bcz as you said to watch the episode for Clash of the titans and I literally obeyed your commands mam ... So let me start with my thoughts ... Before starting if I'm wrong somewhere then do let me know bcz maybe watching after a long time wont make sense to me as in my thoughts can be wrong also ... This owner vs slave thing is going good ... If it were some other character/situations leading to owner vs slave thing then the show would have reached to Broadcasting Minister for showing regressive , pukeworthy concept of owner slave in modern era eventhough in real world still owner slave concept exist and that too in the worst brutal form ... The good thing about this owner vs slave thing was - neither of the party is humiliating the other one in front of crowd (atleast till yesterday's episode) and whatever their problem is , is being talked in private and atleast they are not crossing the line of respect for each other in front of others by doing/saying something extreme + nor they're using this , especially Harman is using the owner card to humiliate or give her some hard labour to do ... The last show of VD in its initial day showed how he marries a girl and then calls her servant in fron of his other servants and blah blah which was ------ + he used to humiliate her ... So thankfully I dont have to witness that here again else even Harman like Saumya would have looked idiot (saumya's selling thing) ... Saumya's monologue in the starting was good .. She loves Harman no doubt about it , but the things which she has done to keep herself away from Harman are not good and the main reason for all this is - her inferiority complex ... Time and again certain things in her life has forced her to be like this and psychologically a person who is so drowned in his/her fear can never think with a right frame of mind (but selling wala thing was too much) and comes in others influence ... Probably now only Harman can take out her deepest fears out and in that process maybe something will happen with Harman and then maybe Saumya will realise his love + come out of her deepest fears and only then she can give it back to preeto clan ... Till she overcomes her fear (which will take a lot of time bcz CVs wont let this show shut soon) untill then preeto and her family will hurl abuses at her and she will keep on hurting harman (though she thinks that she does things for harman's FUTURE betterment but what she isnt realising is that harman's present and future is only her and w/o her he can never have betterment) ... This is the only reason why I dont watch this show - preeto surbhi and rest of the members ka emotional drama making them look saint ... I'm wondering how come some ppl dint say that rope tieing scene is copied/similar to an ex-show ???? Harman is literally hurt with his wife's action of selling thing and that was the reason he made an indirect remark twice (once in presence of Saya and the other one in private) ... And he should be hurt and angry bcz no husband can tolerate such disgusting act from his wife .. And what is with this Saya ??? On one hand she regards Saumya as her daughter and on the other hand just to free her from Harman (who has always protected her and her dignity) she was ready to pay an amount for her ?? And when Saumya gave a shocked expression on Saya ka dialog about she will pay him more - what does that mean ??? Did Saumya somewhere felt that even Saya is talking like a buyer seller thing as if she isnt human ( harman ke case mein its understood why he talks about buying selling thing but saya wasnt there and neither she knows the EXACT thing) ... If Saumya will speak in such a pitch to saya asking her to free her then obviously the person sleeping next to her would wake up ... And saya should better introspect herself - she should look that when saumya was with her then harman literally came to kidnap her risking himself and she cant even do that to free saumya from harman's love rope + in past also harman did so many things which she couldnt do for saumya , so shouldnt see introspect her thoughts and help harman ??? But CVs ko kisi ko positive characters dikhana acha kahan lagta hai ... In all HaYa's Teekhi Mirchi scenes are literally teekhi and both are doing a fabolous job ...

Originally posted by: anitarani

Oh wow...Superrr se upppar wala post...

such details you have taken the time to address...👏

Loving the tashan...fiesty Saumya...and a very bold

and strong and mean Malik...😆 Preeto was ignored,

Saya was shown her place...family put in the

background...and only the Gulam needs to be

tamed...ummm...this is quite a task ...but

no worries...Malik on the roll...it will be

accomplished. 😳

Reading your posts...with such intricate details and

insights really makes me wonder if you are in the

CVs team...definitely you deserve to be there..😊

Originally posted by: zubeada

awesome post jyoti loved it❤️

Originally posted by: Flora15

Gogooo👏 👏 👏 👏Hats off for this bluckbuster retake done with a lot of perfectionism .Your retake not only stole my heart but my breath too.

I must do a bow in front of you my dear for talking firstly about that showbizz article done by a profesionalist that's why I shared it in forum to make an enfasis on it because ; such an important article can be ignored ;thing I don't want it happen.

You talked about the montage of the new track and the promo.

You divided your retake for the Hilarious episode of the war love and hate between HaYa in four precious dialogues :

1_ Saumya to herself : Harman ji while searching for me , you lost yourself and I'll not let that happen .. I ll make you hate me so much now .. I wish that night you accepted me with my identity , all this would have never happened ".

2_Harman to Saumya : "The Saumya that you have sold in Bangkok market , that same Saumya's kasam , I'll never let you step out of the house and I'll decide with whom you'll stay ".

3_Harman to Saumya :"Earlier I tied your hand with me because I used to fear that someone will take you away from me but today I m tieing your hand with me so that you don't go and sell youself .

4_Harman to Saya : "That Saumya whom you're asking to come downstairs , can't even step down from her bed right now ".

I'll do my POV following you retake I'll add something or I'll make a different point of view.Can't say it's a small replay but there is a lot of good things related to the show and the episode for the biginning of the new track is spectacular.

Enjoyed a lot that you talked about that important article of that professional critic.First thing I have done Friday is reading that article and I was very happy that the article comes in a precious moment. The writer of that article is a good viewer and he waited the end of Bangkok track and published his article to do justice to the show and especially to Saumya character who faced a lot of degradation from viewers.This critic himself put infasis that this show is treating an unconditional topic for first time in TV.

I'm very thinkfull for that critic and wish he write more to enlighten mentalities viewers ;he clarified with precision why Saumya left Harman that night ;why that insecure wife full of fear and complexes lived her husband .He said because can't prove she's the perfect wife in front of her mother in law and her husband deceived her saying can't loves any kinar roaming in road and he loves her beauty. Hurted by her husband with that sad confession Saumya is speechless in front of Preeto ; How can she tells her that she deserves her son and her husband said her that he loves only her beauty.Yes Saumya knows he loves her but as a beautiful wife (this is her thought) Saumya always wished being that wife who can give happiness wife satisfying her husband desires (remember that she proposed him doing surgery to be a complete woman) ;Saumya is thirst for being that wife...Saumya weakness is being that incomplete wife ;that's why when Harman said that he loves her beauty ,she gets the proof that she can't give him wife happiness (she said that severals times after quiting Harman and said it when she returned home saying wished that night Harman accepted my identity crying.If that night Saumya Harman accepted her wish to reveal her identity ; she can beat Preeto and everything will be ended.But such topic isn't an easy task and Preeto is a smart devil character she deciphered Saumya psychology and known her insecurities and her fear.The nautak Preeto discovered Saumya complexes and profited her son changements in her behalf and fulfilled her plan successfully.Preeto was sure that Saumya is inable to face her.That's why loved how the writer of the article said who we must blame Preeto ,Saya Harman or Saumya.

For a very complicated person pschologically full of complexes and insecurities who lived a troubled life in fear we're unable to blame him even if some critics say we must blame him a little bit but Saumya with all thes characteristics is naif and sensible ..Others can be blamed with different degrees .First one who must be blamed is the diabolic Preeto ; the mastermind of this dilemma ...Yes Saumya lived the house because can't face Preeto that she's the perfect wife for her son but Saumya lived the house too because she mismsunderood her husband (thought he loves only her beauty and can't be that wife who loves her soul because can't giving him wife happiness ; she's adhuri ..Saumya can't live with a man loving only her beauty :Sorry this is Saumya psychology )

Even Saumya leaving the house because can't face Preeto ;but i have a question who is the cause of all what happened? It's Preeto ;so Preeto brainwashed Saumya manipulating her psychology using Harman overpossessiveness and increasing that creating situations to make Saumya believe that her husband is ashamed with her identity like when she gives her medecines making her I'll and Harman refused taking her hospital.

Saumya so transformed in Tarana and wants find her identity in the society who reunite the two communities. Saumya finds her identify like said that critic in Bangkok interwined with Harman because like he said Saumya faced troubles in Bangkok and managened herself (I'm very thinkfull for the critic because for my poor English i'can t express my thoughts using my background knowledge )but it isn't enough Saumya yes gets her strength when she lived only in bangckock; facing struggles and managed herself but her complete identity is with Harman.That's why in this new track of Tashan we will be in front of a strong ;stubborn and fierce Saumya.

The article of showbiz portrayed nicely Haman and said that Harman witnessed the cruelty of the society with that Transgender murder and said to himself why transforming all this happiness in a nightmare. Harman with fear lived that nightmare lonely transforming himself in an overpossessive and a very protective Husband .His new situation is used in Preeto behalf to fulfill her perfect plan.Harman himself drunken by gulabo love blame himself why hiding his gulabo truth ;He is so strong to protect her and he is up to receive a bullet in her place to save her but it seems too late because his gulabo is about to fly toward another country far away of him.Harman said to Surbhi that he has done a big mistake and seems that someone's profit that on his bihalf.So Harman can be blamed for what was happened but in third place because the second one who must be blamed is Saya.I said all that Track I can't understand Saya and I must watch all the track to understand her ;can't judge her .But with time Saya desapointed me a lot.Saya loves Saumya as her daughter but Saya never can be like her mother nemmi ;because if it was Nemmi alive she 'll tray to hear both sides and sure she'll understand Harman and take his side to return his wife.Saya is only That guruma who represents kinars community and must take all her decisions through her post of guruma.There is a famous dialogue between Malika and Chameli about Saumya when Saumya used Tarana avatar to save Harman ;she said to Chameli that Saumya knows very well when use Saumya or when being Tarana.Saya When Saumya returned to Harak Singh house she forbids her phoning her or having any relation with her.Saya as kinar becomes ruthless with Harman and didn't give him any chance to express himself or intinting talking with him to understand what happened. Saya never understand Harman love for Saumya and I still remember when Harman threatened her with goon and give her that famous and unforgettable dialogue that he wasn't hurt by Saumya leaving him more than Saya who didn't understand his big love. (I still remember his expressions ,his body languages especially with his strong movements toward his heart ;his modulated voice full of sadness and bitterness and his moist eyes)Harman give that time the Ashiq wada that he'll bring his gulabo back and he'll take her far away from them. Saya do also a big mistake joining her hands with Preeto separating Haya and sent Saumya to Bangkok ;the dangerous city.Saya failed protecting Saumya ;Saya even crying and feeling love for Saumya but Saya was selfish and can't be that mam who protect her daughter.Saya never can be Nemmi ;Saya who give wada in front of Nemmi Havaan didn't fullfil her promise and put Saumya life in danger. So Saya comes in second place to be blamed after Preeto.

I Must return to our unique and unconditional lover and say something very important said in that article ;Harman loving Saumya is itself a big challenge breaking all taboos .Only a courageous and a unique true lover can do this .

I'm very thinkgull for that critic who do justice to the show and especially deciphering Saumya character why left Harman and thank u Jyoti it's because of you i talked about that amazing article.Wish I'm really good in English ;I'll write more specifics details using psychology ,sociology and humans rights.

For the new Montage ,yes after ages we got a pureful montage; for me is best one .Haya are dressed nicely like a new wedded couple especially Saumya with her jewelry ,her pureful long mangalsutra ,a new shinning Saree ,her hairstyle ...We're breathless with this new Montage and our hearts are skipping. But what make this Montage more attractive are HaYa strong expressions against each other and how the overpossessive Harman is holding Saumya with authority and stubbornness. This Montage hint that the war between HaYa will be strong and full of tashan. The Malik will impose his authorical rules and demand all his wright's from his gulam by force ;she wants that or not ;she's in his hand and he's her Malik. Harman didn't find any solution to have his Saumya with him ;so as she sold herself to him and refused being his old Saumya saying him he's her Malik. He used smartly what she said as a smart strategy to keep her with him treating her as his slave to ignite his love in her heart.Saumya isn't that old Saumya because as I said she get that strength to find her identity and she'll fight to free herself from Harman but her identity will be complete with Harman .Saumya will witness her complete identity with the reborn of the strong Saumya who ll confess her big love for her husband holding each other hand ;with love HaYa will complete each others and with the Shakti of their love they will face society obstacles.

The promo is amazing 🤣 🤣Harman challenging Saumya paying him back all his money spent on her and Saumya accepts doing all his services uncluding wify needs and be paid for that..Saumya put herself in a difficult situation.She s anaware about what Harman can demand her especially in wife needs service 🤣🤣 We see a segment that Harman have given Saumya tough services and she so fallen ill😭 😭Both HaYa are stubborn strong and have attitude and this track will be a hit for sure.

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Coming know to the hilarious episode I'll tray to talk about rapidly

First dialogue : Saumya to herself : Harman ji while searching for me , you lost yourself and I'll not let that happen .. I ll make you hate me so much now .. I wish that night you accepted me with my identity , all this would have never happened ".

To be frank due to the tashan and Harman imposing his authority I said in tweeter I can't concentrate with Saumya heart touchful monologue .This monologue broke my heart especially when I repeated watching the episode concentrating in Saumya emotions and feelings .Saumya thought that Harman loving her he lost himself and reminded the flashback when he's hating her ;her sad expressions , her modulated voice and how she rest her head to the wall crying bitterly ;show her tough situation. Saumya wished that Harman accepted her identity and she'll be not in this situation.Saumya crying touched my heart who cried too her miserable state.Pyari Saumya you're wrong tumhara Harman Ji don't lost himself searching or loving you but he finds himself with you; he's complete only with you .Harman in your absence can't breath because you are his breath .Hamure Saumya you too are incomplete without him.How do you want make him hate you ?He ll love you more ;you're his life my pari.He's your Shakti and you're his Shakti. Your love for each other is the shaki. Wake up my Saumo reborning that Saumya who loves her Second dialogue Harman to Saumya : "The Saumya that you have sold in Bangkok market , that same Saumya's kasam , I'll never let you step out of the house and I'll decide with whom you'll stay ".

Yes Jyoti Harman lost his old innocent Saumya ;the innocent Saumya has gone selling herself ;Harman is Hurted .But Harman didn't only felt pain and sad but with them love.Harman love is more bigger than his pains that his wife sold herself.Harman love is more bigger than any misunderstood and that banter of Malik vs Gulum is a smart strategy to reburn his Saumya .Everything is fair in love and war;Harman will treat Saumya as his gulam imposing his authority and treating her as he wishes till he gets his Saumya back .That's why he swears on his Saumya he will never let her go when she said that she'll run away again from him.Oh god !How strong is their face to face ;their eye locks are like daggers ; both stubborn .How Saumya handle herself in front of her love and showing him hate and her heart is beating his love.Saumya how strong she can ;she can't free herself from her Malik ;she's his property and he'll reminds her that hurting her every time she didn't listen to him or trying go against his wishes till his Saumya returns to him.Just then he'll tell the whole world happily that his wife is kinar.I'll don't talk about Harman Saya Scene it was perfectly analized by you 👏Loved Harman bajaoing to Saya Gulam saying her humare Saumya and tumhara Tarana are no more and gave her that spectacular actions with his hand to leave.

Third diaologue : Harman to Saumya :"Earlier I tied your hand with me because I used to fear that someone will take you away from me but today I m tieing your hand with me so that you don't go and sell youself .

Gosh , he shocked her entering the room ;a lot of questions in her head why he's doing that and after tying her ;he tells her that dialogue stabbing her directly in her heart.Like he's saying her why you bought yourself living me and forgetting our love ;I'm suffering that you sold yourself and rejecting my love.Why gulabo ?look even I'm angry on you and even I trayed after buying you ; I wanted see my gulabo love but you faced me with rejection again. ;look I still love you but I'll treat you as you wished ;I'll tie you to my hand every night and I'll remind you that I do that for not going to sell yourself.It s hurtful to you and to me but I'll do ;I swear on my Saumya I lost ;that I'll treat you as Gulam till my beloved Saumya reborn .

Fourth dialogye Harman to Saya : "That Saumya whom you're asking to come downstairs , can't even step down from her bed right now "🤣

The fourth dialogue I tatally agree with Harman naughtyness makes me laugh especially Saya reaction🤣Can't stop laughing 🤣

Harman is awake all the conversation and acted that he's in deep sleep like he's enjoying what he's biwi is doing .He keep silent just when she s trying to untie to rope ;just then he took the phone rapidly shocking both Saumya and Malika.Oh my god !Saya face after Harman speech is freeze. ;What Harman is doing

Any way my love me in buhuuut mazaiga whole episode but can't end this long replay without Chintu ; Waw the Chota mama in all his characters.Chintu reminds his mama that his Mami didn't eat .Harman didn't heared him but Chintu angrily said him again adding you're eating and Mami didn't eat anything. Harman knows that Saumya will refuse eating from his hand so he send her Chintu. Chintu shows a lot of attitude in fromt of his Mami and said he's angry on her but can't let her without eating. Saumya answered that she isn't hungry but Chintu with authorical orders makes her eat and he laughs secretly.