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I joined this forum just to comment on posts.. never thought that I will write a post explaining anything. But then if everyone is showing their anger n hatred so openly that they even don't hesitate to bash Rubi by tagging her just bcs they found her character wrong then allow me also to pen down my thoughts. I thought to write this post yesterday but then saw last night's episode n thought now everything is explained but alas some are never going to understand anything but still I am writing this...

Saumya's every relationship demanded some compromise bcs of her identity. Nimmi saved saumya n kept her with herself but how.. confined in four walls with no knowledge of outside world n not even about her real identity. She had also accepted that 21 days challenge of saya. Maninder is saumya's father n I think he also love her but in his opinion he prefer to kill saumya or send her to kinner world bcs he think this is d only solution for making her life easy. Remember his dialogue when he was sending saumya with saya before 21 days that this world is devil for her n she will be tortured here only. Surbhi also shows her love for saumya but when time demanded to take a stand for saumya's rights she end up snatching her every right of a wife n dil n even forced her to suicide. Nani love saumya but she made surbhi more great even after destroying saumya's life as she also think saumya is not worthy to have these relationships. Saya love saumya but she just want her to keep her in kinners world as this only thing she learned from society that saumya can only live there peacefully n her mindset will never let her believe harman fully. Saumya's all these relationships claim to love her but they demanded compromise to love her bcs of her identity crisis. But these relationships are not choosen by her n nor they have to face any challenge in order to accept saumya in fact if nimmi mannu wanted they could have made saumya's life more beautiful but they choose to leave her daughter in hell just bcs of societal rules.

But but but... a normal man like harman if chooses to love a kinner n marry her n stay with her then his life itself became a challenge. His needs , his parents wishes, his society status everything comes on stake. N if there is even 1% doubt in his mind regarding his relationship with a kinner then he should end it as this doubt will one day or other is going to end everything only so better do it in time. By saying that harman loving saumya only bcs she is beautiful n things have been changed with time n by refusing to accept her with her real identity for which he was alwz ready, harman unknowingly expressed his doubts only which lead saumya to decide that this relationship is meant to be broken only. We audience know what saumya meant for harman n infact preeto n saumya n even others know that harman loves saumya but everyone is putting harman in the list of ordinary men n thinking that his love is just a matter of time n it will flew away in air later as how can a man live his entire life with a kinner. In real world also falling in love with someone is not a big deal. They fel in love, get heartbreak, then forget n just move on. This is the story we saw everywhere n it's so common. Preeto knows harman love saumya madly but she still arises questions like after sometime he will think of his heir n then he will marry someone else, he is loving saumya bcs of her beauty only, if saumya will break his heart then he will leave her etc etc. N these questions are right also as any normal man will do this only. Surbhi also chose to marry harman even after knowing that he love saumya bcs she also thought that loving a kinner doesn't mean that he will not accept a normal woman as his wife. She was also thinking his love is just a matter of time n he will accept her one day. N why am I taking only characters name... aren't fans also thinking harman as an ordinary man... yes of course that's why we take his love as his favour n ask him to leave saumya as she never valued his favour.

Some say that should harman die to prove his love for saumya... well then no. He doesn't need to prove his love but he needs to prove that if he says he love a kinner that means he is mentally n emotionally strong enough to stick by his decision n he is well prepared to face all the challenges of society. He needs to prove that his love is just not a matter of time but a lifelong promise to live with his better half n no matter what he is never going to leave her. More than saumya, shakti is story of harman's struggle. For saumya, things are very simple either she will be with harman or saya. She was living with harman bcs she was believing on his love but the doubt which she got by his rejection made her leave him n also bcs of the question that how can she destroy a perfect man's life. I am not saying that saumya will never accept harman's love... she will but I think she still hasn't gain the confidence on him n on his love n till the time she doesn't get the point loud n clear that if harman says he love her then he mean it.. he literally mean it, she will keep choosing path to separate from harman. We ask saumya to prove her love for harman but I think we hasn't reached to the point where she can believe harman's love then how will she fight for him... The girl whom was tagged not even worthy to stay alive that too by his own father then how can she believe that her hubby harman is not going to leave her in future.

People are getting angry that saumya became preeto's puppet but then preeto doesn't tell any lie. She has alwz risen genuine questions reagarding haya relationship which seems quite true for any ordinary man. Now it's harman who has to prove to not only preeto n saumya but to fans also that how unique he is when it comes to loving his gulabo. N I think the current track is for this only... when saumya will put all efforts to gain hatred from harman, so that he decide to move on leaving her behind, but will end up getting love only... n also she will keep reminding him how he will not get anything from her but he will then also not leave her so that means by the end of this track she will gain that much needed confidence on him n on his love when she will witness how perfect their relationship is even after her being so imperfect.

Enough... I wasted so much time in writing this post.. even after knowing that people here are so stubborn that they will never understand anything.

Anyway, if people just wanted to complain only n if they r in no mood to understand anything.. then also I am absolutely OK.Afterall it's not my loss as I am at very much peace n enjoying shakti with my gorgeous vivina n beautiful haya.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm really very thinkfull luvRubi for making this post .First don't know why the fan's can'take defferenciate between personal life of an actor and the role he plays .I think not only they'really brainless by they' re really ill .It's a daily soap and Rubina is portraying the role of kinar perfectly and With perfectionism. She have a strong personality and self confidence in herself taking this challenge for playing a kinar role in TV;especially this topic is treated for first. Hats off for her.
About Saumya most a fan or treating her as any normal wife or or insulting how Harman is giving All that love for kinar who is ingreatful for that love and didn't deserve it ..They 're saying he must goes on with his life.Arrey stop that ;Harman character isn't ordinary and he 's love too neither Saumya is an ordinary kinar or ordinary wife.Saumya love for Harman too isn't normal (bcz Saumya loves Harman and his love is curved in her heart...Harman is the most pureful gift given by God to give her life meaning and happiness too...Saumya isn't ordinary bcz she's keeping that love inside her and preferred living him when she though he's loving only her beauty ..Saumya can't be selfish and break the life of the man who loves in keeping living with him)
Hope I 'm in good situation i'll right a big post about Saumya from her childhood.till her marriage and everything explaining Saumya character psychologically because Saumya character with her background of her life is a very complicated and sensible character ;I feel very bad when others can't understand her ...Harman is a magical and unique character never seen before in TV and they must make that in their head because Harman love is unconditional pure and without bouderies ..Saumya love for Harman is so pure and innocent and they 'really spoiling it with their non sens judgment. ..No one can feel or imagine what Saumya lived in that 21 years and how are her feelings ,her pains ,sufferings ,needs ,struggles ,living in darkness surrounded between four walls , ineducated,she haven't conception of the world and a lot of big list...Saumya haven't get that perfect love family ;she's loved only by her mam who was her world and her rakshak..I won't talk about this important relation of Saumya with her family bcz it take me a long speech ; wished I do...
Harman after passing the phase of shock of marrying a kinar ,becoming his friend and saving her after that first kidnapp discovered himself madly in love with Saumya and it's big challenge for him loving a kinar ..Loving kinar mean sacrificing his desires as a man ,haven't child's ;facing his family and all people who are against his love...Have you seen or heard such love ...Is most purest and beautful love story ..It's more beautiful than the Virgin love (like kaiyes and Lila ) because Virgin love is from one side but Haya love story is from two sides...Harman as man he's expressing that love and fighting for it ;Harman haven' t the a complexe of inferiority like Saumya ;,Harman is strong in his character and very smart..Harman is the unique Character I have seen in dailies soaps who keep intact without changing believing in his love and fighting for it and can go to the extreme and fight with his lady love for that love.Saumya can't express her love for Harman because her identity is her weakness and keeping her insecure she said that by herself to Harman in that night of MU;Saumya can't live in fear and hated by others because she's only loving one man( remember her tears in that kinar house when one kinar showed her hatred; Saumya told her she can cook for her several times the food but if she can't give her love not hating her)
Saumya never stooped loving Harman even when she's trying to show him hatred during her journey in kinar house;Harman love is torturing her inside but even grieved Saumya choosen to live in memories of Harman love Whole her life.
The stubborn Harman even his lady love gone far away out the country ;his soul shows him the right way and a in a couples of days he find her ;shocked by her big rejection of returning with him he bought her.Harman bought his love with the highyest bid for assuring that no one buy his wife ..Harman can bid more for his love ;Saumya is hid for une in this life and no fortune can compete with her.
Harman himself said that Saumya isn't only his wife but his zid and he is bohut ziddi..This speech isn't only for Avinash and Mahrani but is for viewers too who are judging humiliating and insulting his love for Saumya.A wise viewers can read all this between lines..I'm not hindi but i'm well connected with both Haman and Saumya harmoniously.Hope Haya get soon that harmony in their life as real Husband and wife.For proving love a true lover and with Harman chartecristics don't care about how much he will do to prove his love ;he can go the the extreme to prove it and this time he'll fights his lady love .
Saumya have that love but for this moment still think to run away again and she said bitterly that their love for each other is different. .It's a sad truth but Saumya sure in all the struggles she'll face she'll discover that their love for each other is pureful and complete. The smart Harman knew the precise medecine to win his love again...He descovered that his wife take everything said as real ,can't defferenciate anything and hasn't the a deep thinking so he decided being her Malik like she said and being rude with her..About Saumya proved her love for Harman or not ..Don't know if you're watching Shakti or not of course Saumya proved her love in her Way remember when fighted men who are attacking Harman with rode and Saya helped her;isn't that a sign of love.When she discovered he's working stunt man and get angry on him for making his life in danger ,isn't that a proof of love. Her passionate hug in the hut in blue saree isn'the a sign of love; Putting herself in kinar avatar to catch the goons and free Harman from jail ;isn't a proof of love...There are my scenes Saumya proving her love for Harman but Saumya never dared confessing her love for Harman because of weakness point...You can insult me and do whatever you want but this is Saumya psychology;she' s made With complexes ,she's innocent ,pure and a loving person.Saumya who lived hated all her life can't hate others because she knows the impact of that word..Saumya who deprived from love family can't deprive her love with that...
Only love can cure Saumya and change her but to ignite this love again in Saumya toward her husband and not keeping it inside her ;Harman must fight with her .
Wished my dear make a big post about Saumya to explain her character more but as have seen they'really blaming Harman and insulting Saumya so I intented talk about them in short replay.
Edited by Flora15 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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its awesome post❤️
loved reading it
plz dont be upset i know theres so many complaining
& theres so many enjoying this track too 😳

its just ppl dotn want to see preetooo much as we fed up with her 😆

and plz do write more 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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U explained it in such a beautiful way
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post...Waiting to see how persistent and
persevering can Harman continue to be...in his love
for Gulabo.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually there r two types on twitter .. One grp will always hv problem with Saumya even if she does good because they dont like Rubi for obvious reasons 😆 but there is a other grp who r genuine HaYa fans and show lovers , who will criticise her when needed so that CVs dont make any further blunder .. in fact they even criticised Harman during trio track when Preeto pulled Saumya by her hair and he did nothing .. so when same people today criticise Saumya so that CVs do write proper dialogues or monologues for her , I m fine with it ... Its upto us how we differentiate ..

Coming to my pov , I hv similar views like u after yesterday's episode .. So really well written dear 👏

This is what I feel


Though I hated the flashback but I m must admit that Preeto does hv this quality of being a great manipulator with her words 😲 ; I actually heard the dialogues carefully and I can totally understand why that forced Saumya to leave the house overnight ; First Preeto tells Saumya that look I was right , Harman loves your beauty only but cannot accept your identity which unfortunately what Harman too told her few hours back to hide his fears , something that we know but Saumya was unaware of his fears ; Then Preeto tells Saumya that tomorrow if society finds out that she is a kinner then they will accuse her for ruining a man's life and also ruining the entire generation of this family but that time Harman wont b there with her to defend her as today he himself refused to accept her with her identity , so then in that case what will she do , can she face those questions and hate of society with Harman not on her side ?? 🤔 ; After these strong words of Preeto , what Saumya feels is tomorrow Harman may not b there with her to defend her identity in front of society when this society will question or accuse her in case her truth comes out , because if Harman is not ready to accept her with her identity today, then how can he face this society in future when society will question her ? ; And this is exactly what Saumya told Harman after he buys her in Bangkok ; She told him that its better to live in this hell than face the hatred of society there as he is not ready to accept her identity , so basically these r Preeto's words put in her mind ;

Saumya fears that tomorrow if her truth comes out , Harman wont b on her side as he is already running away from her identity , so she will b left alone to face the society in future, and thats why she feels its better I run away from him now only than suffer such a heartbreak in future ; This is the reason why she tells herself that our way of loving is different as Harman wants to love me by keeping me with him and I want to love him but going away from him 😭 ; This is actually similar to Harman's fear ... Just like Harman fears loosing Saumya after the kinner's death incident , similarly Saumya fears loosing Harman's support in case her truth tomorrow comes out in front of society assuming that Harman wont stand with her to support her identity then ; Just like Harman today has overcome his fears after loosing her and now have no issues in accepting that Saumya , a kinner is his wife now in front of Avinash and company , he does proudly tell everyone there she is his wife 👍🏼 , similarly Saumya will hv to overcome her fears and realise that tomorrow if society questions or accuses her , Harman will always stand by her ; But she will realise this only when she will see that despite making so many attempts to make him hate her , he is still standing by her and protecting her ; And once she realises this and overcomes her fear that Preeto has put in her mind , we might then finally see her redemption which might begin with Saumya first exposing Preeto and then finally confessing that she wants to now live as Harman's lover/wife only 😳 ; We night then get to see the lover in Saumya who will shower all her love on an Angry Harman ..

So even though CVs forcibly showed Preeto brainwashing and her torture on Saumya yet again , but I feel thats not the complete reason why she left the house ; The main reason is the fear that resides in her heart regarding what if Harman dont stand by her side if tomorrow society finds out I m a kinner as he dont want to accept my identity today .. And Preeto only escalated this fear further with her strong words but the fear was already within her after Harman's harsh words that night and this fear resulted in Saumya leaving house ...

We can argue that why cant she trust Harman and always assume wrong about him .. Here I can say fear is something that often takes a toll on our thinking power .. Harman too feared loosing Saumya after seeing the tragic death of a kinner and after that he went onto do many extreme things like even deciding to settle abroad forever ; Similarly Saumya's fear is resulting in her doing all these extreme things which right now makes no sense ..Its the fear which she has to overcome to restore her trust in Harman again

All I want is CVs to just focus on Harman and Saumya's emotions here in this love-hate track instead of turning into another repitative track of Saumya becoming Preeto's puppet .. Preeto is not needed here .. Its a fight between Harman's love and Saumya's fear .. Let it remain like that , dont force Preeto on us



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvRUBI

I joined this forum just to comment on posts.. never thought that I will write a post explaining anything. But then if everyone is showing their anger n hatred so openly that they even don't hesitate to bash Rubi by tagging her just bcs they found her character wrong then allow me also to pen down my thoughts. I thought to write this post yesterday but then saw last night's episode n thought now everything is explained but alas some are never going to understand anything but still I am writing this...

Saumya's every relationship demanded some compromise bcs of her identity. Nimmi saved saumya n kept her with herself but how.. confined in four walls with no knowledge of outside world n not even about her real identity. She had also accepted that 21 days challenge of saya. Maninder is saumya's father n I think he also love her but in his opinion he prefer to kill saumya or send her to kinner world bcs he think this is d only solution for making her life easy. Remember his dialogue when he was sending saumya with saya before 21 days that this world is devil for her n she will be tortured here only. Surbhi also shows her love for saumya but when time demanded to take a stand for saumya's rights she end up snatching her every right of a wife n dil n even forced her to suicide. Nani love saumya but she made surbhi more great even after destroying saumya's life as she also think saumya is not worthy to have these relationships. Saya love saumya but she just want her to keep her in kinners world as this only thing she learned from society that saumya can only live there peacefully n her mindset will never let her believe harman fully. Saumya's all these relationships claim to love her but they demanded compromise to love her bcs of her identity crisis. But these relationships are not choosen by her n nor they have to face any challenge in order to accept saumya in fact if nimmi mannu wanted they could have made saumya's life more beautiful but they choose to leave her daughter in hell just bcs of societal rules.

But but but... a normal man like harman if chooses to love a kinner n marry her n stay with her then his life itself became a challenge. His needs , his parents wishes, his society status everything comes on stake. N if there is even 1% doubt in his mind regarding his relationship with a kinner then he should end it as this doubt will one day or other is going to end everything only so better do it in time. By saying that harman loving saumya only bcs she is beautiful n things have been changed with time n by refusing to accept her with her real identity for which he was alwz ready, harman unknowingly expressed his doubts only which lead saumya to decide that this relationship is meant to be broken only. We audience know what saumya meant for harman n infact preeto n saumya n even others know that harman loves saumya but everyone is putting harman in the list of ordinary men n thinking that his love is just a matter of time n it will flew away in air later as how can a man live his entire life with a kinner. In real world also falling in love with someone is not a big deal. They fel in love, get heartbreak, then forget n just move on. This is the story we saw everywhere n it's so common. Preeto knows harman love saumya madly but she still arises questions like after sometime he will think of his heir n then he will marry someone else, he is loving saumya bcs of her beauty only, if saumya will break his heart then he will leave her etc etc. N these questions are right also as any normal man will do this only. Surbhi also chose to marry harman even after knowing that he love saumya bcs she also thought that loving a kinner doesn't mean that he will not accept a normal woman as his wife. She was also thinking his love is just a matter of time n he will accept her one day. N why am I taking only characters name... aren't fans also thinking harman as an ordinary man... yes of course that's why we take his love as his favour n ask him to leave saumya as she never valued his favour.

Some say that should harman die to prove his love for saumya... well then no. He doesn't need to prove his love but he needs to prove that if he says he love a kinner that means he is mentally n emotionally strong enough to stick by his decision n he is well prepared to face all the challenges of society. He needs to prove that his love is just not a matter of time but a lifelong promise to live with his better half n no matter what he is never going to leave her. More than saumya, shakti is story of harman's struggle. For saumya, things are very simple either she will be with harman or saya. She was living with harman bcs she was believing on his love but the doubt which she got by his rejection made her leave him n also bcs of the question that how can she destroy a perfect man's life. I am not saying that saumya will never accept harman's love... she will but I think she still hasn't gain the confidence on him n on his love n till the time she doesn't get the point loud n clear that if harman says he love her then he mean it.. he literally mean it, she will keep choosing path to separate from harman. We ask saumya to prove her love for harman but I think we hasn't reached to the point where she can believe harman's love then how will she fight for him... The girl whom was tagged not even worthy to stay alive that too by his own father then how can she believe that her hubby harman is not going to leave her in future.

People are getting angry that saumya became preeto's puppet but then preeto doesn't tell any lie. She has alwz risen genuine questions reagarding haya relationship which seems quite true for any ordinary man. Now it's harman who has to prove to not only preeto n saumya but to fans also that how unique he is when it comes to loving his gulabo. N I think the current track is for this only... when saumya will put all efforts to gain hatred from harman, so that he decide to move on leaving her behind, but will end up getting love only... n also she will keep reminding him how he will not get anything from her but he will then also not leave her so that means by the end of this track she will gain that much needed confidence on him n on his love when she will witness how perfect their relationship is even after her being so imperfect.

Enough... I wasted so much time in writing this post.. even after knowing that people here are so stubborn that they will never understand anything.

Anyway, if people just wanted to complain only n if they r in no mood to understand anything.. then also I am absolutely OK.Afterall it's not my loss as I am at very much peace n enjoying shakti with my gorgeous vivina n beautiful haya.



Good post priyanka, i loved when you said,Shakti is about harman's struggle for his love.Hope ,he comes out victorious oneday.
You should be bothered abt people who criticize actors for their roles .unfortunately ,this have been happening with all shows .when i was watching YHM ,same thing happened with karan patel,when his character was butchered in the show,people started criticizing him personally.We as viewers are only allowed to express opinion or like/dislike or criticize /praise a character but not actors.I personally dont follow any actors( infact,i didnt even know the actor's name of HAYA till april this year) as i am not a fan of anyone .i love only characters.
Everyone has a right to pen down their opinion on any character 's behavior is wrong but it should be constructive not abusive.Even ,you should be open minded for that.i am genuine fan of HAYA ,it doesnt mean that i support a wrong behavior of HAYA .it can be harman or soumya .Its part of disappointment nothing else no personal hardship for actors.
I love everything abt HAYA but i really wanted to see a strong soumya against preeto. I really dont want to see soumya doing anything under preeto's pressure or influence. ,whatever she does with harman whether getting dressed up like kinnar etc by her own.we dont want cv's to forcibly push preeto bet HAYA.Its HAYA problem,let them handle it in their own style .I hope ,even you like it that way.
Edited by sairitu - 8 years ago
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Agree that Soumya will only be strong when she does not take decisions influenced by preeto. Unfortunately and sadly she continues to be Preetos puppet. Her inner growth has not happened. If she really wants to be known as a kinnar she can go outside and declare it to the world. She is punishing Harman for a crime he did not commit under the influence of Preeto.

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