Another Euro director hits the pits

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Another Euro Director Hits The Pits
Thursday 10 August 2017 12.00 IST
Box Office India Trade Network

The fate of Jab Harry Met Sejal has seen another one of those European directors hit the pits. Not that it was not coming, there was an article written here in March (The European Directors Not Quite Out Yet) which pretty much spelled it out and it has gone pretty much to plan, actually its worse than we had expected. Now the article would probably read (European Directors Very Close To An End) as Zoya Akhtar still has a chance with a cast film with Ranveer Singh who is doing pretty well and Alia Bhatt doing extremely well but a European director has the capability to change this equation fast as Shahid Kapoor, Ranbir Kapoor and even Shahrukh Khan have found out to their cost. Even Salman Khan is not spared when Kabir Khan goes to his roots in Tubelight.

It is shocking that we can see this from the outside that it is coming but the industry can't. Ranbir Kapoor has made five films with these directors (2 with Imitiaz Ali, 2 with Anurag Basu and 1 with Anurag Kashyap) and the one that got away somehow was Barfi! but then flukes will happen. Ranbir Kapor was a genuine potential superstar, a talent which comes in generations but these euro directors have put him in a position that it will take years to recover. Then a Shahrukh Khan actually works with an Imtiaz Ali, its bad enough having a film with Gauri Shinde who would also fall in the bracket of a Euro director but not an A lister as the likes of Imtiaz Ali, Vishal Bharadwaj and company. But Dear Zindagi was a guest role so you get away with it but in a full fledged with one of these directors you can't really get away with. Lets say that Jab Harry Met Sejal was loved by the five metro audience it may have reached 150 crore nett but is that good enough for a Shahrukh Khan film. Dilwale did 140 crore nett a few years back.

The first point is that there is demographics of the box office at work and these directors can only appeal to five cities and even in those five cities it is mainly the English speaking audience who might bear their films. Secondly the most important reason why we call them European directors is the story telling and narrative of their films. The technique of direction changes over the years but you can't change the story telling style as the audience is used to this for years. They may be attempting to change Indian cinema but that will never happen as only the audience can do that. Instead of following the ways of a Raj Kapoor, Yash Chopra or Raj Khosla is term of how a story is presented to the audience they are looking towards European cinema which they believe is the way forward only for the audience to give the middle figure nearly every time.

The A listers in this Euro director list are Vishal Bharadwaj, Anurag Basu, Imtiaz Ali, Dibaker Banerjee, Zoya Aktar and Anurag Kashyap. There are so many of these but these are A listers as they have managed to get mini stars and stars to work in their films while Imtiaz Ali even managed to get a superstar but to no avail. These stars have suffered huge career setbacks most of the time they worked with a euro director and now it may (will is correct word but you never discount that 1-2% chance of a Barfi! happening) be the turn of Ranveer Singh and Alia Bhatt with Gully Boy if and when that film happens. The actors get away with if you are coming off commercial hits but if they expected hit fails and then you have a Euro director for your next then you need god on your side. This is why Padmavati is a must for Ranveer Singh as after Bekifre you can't afford a tanker when your next is a Zoya Akhtar film.

Earlier there was the Hollywood bug with directors like Vidhu Vinod Chopra, Ram Gopal Verma and Sanjay Gupta who racked up the flops like there was no tomorrow but that was a bug where only these lot and a few others were infected. Today the European thing is rampant more like a disease as its not just the names above but many others also going the same way. It remains to be seen where it goes as its reached a level where even Shahrukh Khan has made a film with one of these directors which is never going to give superstar numbers. Either these directors will have to change ways or make very small films because if our bigger films are going niche then it will be shut up shop time will be close.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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It's sad to see indeed

Bollywood might cease to exist by 2019
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What is meant by an euro director
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Originally posted by: Veni-Vidi-Vici

What is meant by an euro director


art movie directors
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While BOI rants about what they call as Euro director I am curious to know which director's story telling style they consider Indian enough to click with the audience. I would like to see the record of these directors.
The examples they have given Raj Kapoor and Raj Khosla had their last films 30 years ago in the 1980s. Even the Khans started their careers after they stopped working/passed away. The third example is Yash Chopra whose last film was JTHJ which also isnt supposed to be his best. And the film prior to that which was a blockbuster happened in 2004 ie 13 years ago.
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Originally posted by: TheRager

While BOI rants about what they call as Euro director I am curious to know which director's story telling style they consider Indian enough to click with the audience. I would like to see the record of these directors.

The examples they have given Raj Kapoor and Raj Khosla had their last films 30 years ago in the 1980s. Even the Khans started their careers after they stopped working/passed away. The third example is Yash Chopra whose last film was JTHJ which also isnt supposed to be his best.



Raju Hirani, Rakesh Roshan, Kabir Khan in ETT and BB at least, Aditya Chopra, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, Yash Chopra, Rohit Shetty.

These folks.
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Originally posted by: TheRager

While BOI rants about what they call as Euro director I am curious to know which director's story telling style they consider Indian enough to click with the audience. I would like to see the record of these directors.

The examples they have given Raj Kapoor and Raj Khosla had their last films 30 years ago in the 1980s. Even the Khans started their careers after they stopped working/passed away. The third example is Yash Chopra whose last film was JTHJ which also isnt supposed to be his best. And the film prior to that which was a blockbuster happened in 2004 ie 13 years ago.

karan johar
Raj Kumar Hirani
Kabir Khan
Rohit Shetty
Anees Bazmee

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Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic



Raju Hirani, Rakesh Roshan, Kabir Khan in ETT and BB at least, Aditya Chopra, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, Yash Chopra, Rohit Shetty.

These folks.


Raju Hirani is the only one with an unblemished record so far but makes movies once in 4-5 years. Rakesh Roshan only works with his son, Kabir Khan delivered Tubelight, Aditya delivered Befikre, SLB delivered films like Black, Guzarish which were again European style but his recent ones have been different, YC we already discussed and RS last movie was Diwale. So of this only Hirani and SLB fit the fill.

Originally posted by: _Khaleesi_

karan johar
Raj Kumar Hirani
Kabir Khan
Rohit Shetty
Anees Bazmee

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KJo's recent films havent been blockbusters. Last one was probably K3G. Aneez Bazmee doesnt have such a recognized name. And his Welcome2 was truly terrible. Not sure about Mubarakan.


Took 5 years to give the biggest blockbuster of this century so far. Can the entire eco system of film industry survive with once in 5 year hits?

Of all these people only SLB appears to be someone who is viable as a commercial director as he is more prolific and his recent films have clicked.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yeah, I get that.

But BOI's point isn't that those people deliver all the time. The ones I mentioned and other similar ones are at least loyal to the Indian narrative style and stories as opposed to, "Euro directors," who try to emulate storytelling designs from the French New Wave, Italian Neorealism, etc.

Imtiaz, Vishal, Basu, Kashyap, Gauri Shinde, etc. don't deliver blockbusters. They rarely ever make movies for the masses or in true Indian vein like Hirani does or Rakesh Roshan does. Not one of those filmmakers have delivered a universally accepted movie.

Ideally, BOI wouldn't be so bitchy about them, but the problem is these filmmakers are dominating the scene today. Imtiaz Ali is more respected than Rohit Shetty, but it's Shetty's movies that creates jobs, expands markets, and allows young filmmakers to view filmmaking as a viable profession. An Imtiaz Ali does nothing to help expand business, to create jobs, or bring profits to the industry.

So, it doesn't matter if Kabir, say, delivered a Tubelight because he's delivered an ETT/BB. Same for Rohit Shetty. He has delivered big blockbusters like Golmaal, CE, and Singham series. Even his underwhelming Dilwale out-grosses any movie from those, "Euro filmmakers." Yash Chopra made a career out of directing quality movies that ended up becoming blockbusters. SLB is the only filmmaker who's successfully managed to balance art cinema and commercial cinema. It's also not a surprise as his inspiration is MEA (as Hirani's is Anand). These are filmmakers rooted to Indian narrative styles.

That was BOI's point.

Filmmakers like Imtiaz, Vishal, Basu, Kashyap, etc. rarely deliver super hits let alone blockbusters. And, they are the who's-who of filmmakers in India. When you look at 2017 so far, it's shaping up to be one of the worst years ever. There are a handful of movies that could salvage the year, but it's been a critical and commercial failure so far.

It's really concerning for people who look at the film industry as a business, as a creative business rather than creative indulgence. It's called showbiz, not showart.
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Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

@TheRager

Yeah, I get that.

But BOI's point isn't that those people deliver all the time. The ones I mentioned and other similar ones are at least loyal to the Indian narrative style and stories as opposed to, "Euro directors," who try to emulate storytelling designs from the French New Wave, Italian Neorealism, etc.

Imtiaz, Vishal, Basu, Kashyap, Gauri Shinde, etc. don't deliver blockbusters. They rarely ever make movies for the masses or in true Indian vein like Hirani does or Rakesh Roshan does. Not one of those filmmakers have delivered a universally accepted movie.

Ideally, BOI wouldn't be so bitchy about them, but the problem is these filmmakers are dominating the scene today. Imtiaz Ali is more respected than Rohit Shetty, but it's Shetty's movies that creates jobs, expands markets, and allows young filmmakers to view filmmaking as a viable profession. An Imtiaz Ali does nothing to help expand business, to create jobs, or bring profits to the industry.

So, it doesn't matter if Kabir, say, delivered a Tubelight because he's delivered an ETT/BB. Same for Rohit Shetty. He has delivered big blockbusters like Golmaal, CE, and Singham series. Even his underwhelming Dilwale out-grosses any movie from those, "Euro filmmakers." Yash Chopra made a career out of directing quality movies that ended up becoming blockbusters. SLB is the only filmmaker who's successfully managed to balance art cinema and commercial cinema. It's also not a surprise as his inspiration is MEA (as Hirani's is Anand). These are filmmakers rooted to Indian narrative styles.

That was BOI's point.

Filmmakers like Imtiaz, Vishal, Basu, Kashyap, etc. rarely deliver super hits let alone blockbusters. And, they are the who's-who of filmmakers in India. When you look at 2017 so far, it's shaping up to be one of the worst years ever. There are a handful of movies that could salvage the year, but it's been a critical and commercial failure so far.

It's really concerning for people who look at the film industry as a business, as a creative business rather than creative indulgence. It's called showbiz, not showart.


I see your point here especially the bold. Now its up to the industry to create that balance of respect for both types of film-makers. So that people are encouraged to choose either style rather than chasing one style or not trying at all.
As for the Imtiaz, Vishal, Basu, Kashyap, Gauri Shinde etc controlled budget movies is the way forward for them.

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