antiheroes are not evil..REALLY !!??

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Posted: 8 years ago
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People who are saying anti heroes are not evil, what would you call Dexter Morgan or Walter White ? Serial killer much ? They had their own motives and rationality to break bad or to even become psychopathic. But they wouldn't hurt an ant outside that motive's frame. Just like Advay didn't hurt that puppy but is entirely merciless while it comes into his revenge-frame. Both Dexter and Walter were a doting father/brother but still downright psychopathic !! There are a lot others. So before saying anti-heroes are not despicable, please do some research !! They have the prefix 'anti' for a reason !!
Everything now depends on the character developments !! I am not expecting a breaking bad...but they should really work on the female character development !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Advay is not anti-her in that true sense. He is more a of a dark hero. More like the ruthless heroes in Harlequin novels.

Indian TV or audience is not matured to have an anti-hero.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Frankly, I don't mind Advay doing mean things to Chandni unless the story strongly gives his character a reason to be this ruthless to her, to an extent where he literally put her dupatta on fire and his motive to "badnaam" her image justifies his action. But, writers will have to come back with a strong redemption track for Advay's sin and maligning a women's dignity.
Also, the show is a work of fiction and we should judge it emotionally. I am sure they will handle it responsibly. Let us give some time for the story and characters to develop and eventually justify their actions.

It is my personal opinion and not intended to hurt anyone's sentiments.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is a special breed girls hope to convert into angels in distant future .😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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im sure they have plenty of time to work on chandni's character development, she is already quite layered and strong despite her disorder. anti heroes, they do good and bad things and you dont know whether to love or hate them, at the end it all depends on the end result that solidifies your position on them, i feel like your gonna go back and forth. i mean characters like deadpool are also labelled as anti heroes, magneto, spike from buffy, i think he is a really example given all the bad shit he did and tried to do to buffy and her friends more then advay will probably do. it all depends on the redemption track, i have seen villains become heroes like even after murdering a bunch of people. im actually excited to see how they will develop advay
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AsyaManeetAnshi

Frankly, I don't mind Advay doing mean things to Chandni unless the story strongly gives his character a reason to be this ruthless to her, to an extent where he literally put her dupatta on fire and his motive to "badnaam" her image justifies his action. But, writers will have to come back with a strong redemption track for Advay's sin and maligning a women's dignity.

Also, the show is a work of fiction and we should judge it emotionally. I am sure they will handle it responsibly. Let us give some time for the story and characters to develop and eventually justify their actions.

It is my personal opinion and not intended to hurt anyone's sentiments.


I don't think anything can justify those actions. Specially whereas Chandni was just a kid at that time. My point is anti heroes are not meant to take decisions justifiable to sane non-psychopath people !! Then they would be called just heroes...without the anti !! Barun has already declared he is playing an anti-hero...I am not saying Advay should be justifiable...He is not justifiable...that's the whole point of it !! Some people in forum are saying anti-heroes are not evil. May be they are expecting coconut heroes----hard outside soft inside...This is my reply to them !! Expecting justification should have been stopped the moment barun declared that advay is an anti hero !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Righto...Please refer srk in baazigar.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Advay I feel still has some redeemable qualities
Right now they are cloaked in his bitterness and hatred
But that will slowly burn and melt and his compassion will take its place
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: tardis


I don't think anything can justify those actions. Specially whereas Chandni was just a kid at that time. My point is anti heroes are not meant to take decisions justifiable to sane non-psychopath people !! Then they would be called just heroes...without the anti !! Barun has already declared he is playing an anti-hero...I am not saying Advay should be justifiable...He is not justifiable...that's the whole point of it !! Some people in forum are saying anti-heroes are not evil. May be they are expecting coconut heroes----hard outside soft inside...This is my reply to them !! Expecting justification should have been stopped the moment barun declared that advay is an anti hero !!


i know exactly what you talking about, im also like ??? like the whole point of an anti hero is, is that they are quite dark compared to the hero and lack morality, do things that serve their own self interest whether or not its actually right, its not based on proper moral convictions and they dont regret what they are doing. an anti hero is supposed to represent good and EVIL, you cant just have a overall good guy that's just a little flawed, mean here and there and that's it, you cant water it down, you need to commit. that's the whole deal and you just watch their journey on whether they change or not and try to see their pov, i mean your right there is no justification but that's kinda the point isnt it. they dont follow the rules and your description is apt, i think some people were expecting or think anti heroes are characters with a hard outer shell but soft insides, that isnt the case, what we are seeing with advay is a true archetype of an anti hero. the show already gave a lot of info and no doubt will show more to give advay more a pov in detail and show exactly how traumatic that incident was.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: bila_a

im sure they have plenty of time to work on chandni's character development, she is already quite layered and strong despite her disorder. anti heroes, they do good and bad things and you dont know whether to love or hate them, at the end it all depends on the end result that solidifies your position on them, i feel like your gonna go back and forth. i mean characters like deadpool are also labelled as anti heroes, magneto, spike from buffy, i think he is a really example given all the bad shit he did and tried to do to buffy and her friends more then advay will probably do. it all depends on the redemption track, i have seen villains become heroes like even after murdering a bunch of people. im actually excited to see how they will develop advay


I totally agree...I even named him deadpool in one of my posts...Even there's jaime lannister in GOT who pushed a child off a cliff and raped a mother in front of their son's corpse !!!! nothing is more heinous than that...Still now the story has evolved to such an extent that people would mourn his death if it happens...Fans expect great things from him !! So yes !! the most we need is character development and despite antiheroes, i hope not to see cringe-worthy sexism !!
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