Is Suraj's love always questioned by Chakor?

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Thanks Rabia for encouraging me to start this new topic. I place my credits to you to use your question as the new topic head. Hope you don't mind!

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Originally posted by KUTUR

Originally posted by sumsukor

Originally posted by meshmesh

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Loved all the three Suraj scenes today . The one with Ragini was the best. Liked the scene with imli too . Sukor scene was as usual cute especially when he said he needs to drink as he was supposed to be sad at their continued seperation. šŸ˜†

His scene with Ragini was my favorite too, classic Suraj.

You all said it right

Suraj was cute and innocent while asking for the kiss...

He just nailed with ragini... Even a small scratch on chakor and his gun will first speak... Wow that old greyness after a long time.

Too handsome and confident while pulling her close to him... Poor chakor hard to resist (SORRY GMšŸ˜‰)



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Still he is questioned about his love for her,at every step😳

Very true... thought to take a bit time to explain this...

one thing I realised after studying and analysing Chakor is that (kindly pardon me if I am wrong too and correct me ... my logic) even during the grey days Suraj though didnot wish to marry her but married her as to take a revenge of her swap... in the hindsight used her for his benefits -monetarily though but at the base, the relationship was always bit protective of her.. he know that he had a very shade of grey which was mainly an attention seeking from his father...to be superficially rough, rude, badass but has been craving for true affection and love. he had never even spoken bad about Chakor nor her relationship with Vivaan in a demeaning or derogatory way. It is a known factor that his relationship has ebbed slowy with the tide to the space that he was doting her as a guiding factor as he always said her dimaag is too sharp and also said her dimaag and his thaakath was an adhuri combination... he trusted her words without any questions and even during their fights she always won not that she was always right but he always gave in as he wanted her to win, as he thought she was born to win and can and should not fail. during their married life he had only respect and no love or lust for her. He developed bonding with her during the bandwa days as he felt she was the only soul who was helping him and he should do pooja for her. He never even tried to have any physical intimacy though they were always very close to each other and sometimes she was not in her senses too.

Chakor on the other hand has a wall against her she is the supergirl, jagatmata as she always says i am mai babu ka bahadhur baccha cannot cry. But at the heart she felt vulnerable and wanted that protection which she got from Suraj but with thorns around her to secure her, she did weave the magical wand around him and made him into a gentleman but always was putting him down at every chance.. ulti kopdi, akalmand, pakhandi, dimaag nahi, etc etc.. She refused to trust him but trusted all other... she did not have any feelings towards him until the she was rescued when she was being publicly humiliated and when he refused to be slap her.


Now coming to my point... when she started loving Suraj, her analytical brain was refusing to accept any of his explanation or to the fact even Imli's explanation. In fact I was bit taken aback at the character Chakor who knows everything, was not believing Imli (sorry at this point I felt she was saying something logic) when she said please check the reports it must be fake and she said she trusted Chakor when she said her drug test report was fake and uprightly trusted Vivan when he was charged with rape case without any second thought... Also Chakor's analytical brain refused to go over the dialogue when Suraj said imli ki bache ke baap hum kehelanyengey... i do not want to go into the unneccessary stupidity which went into...

But nowhere chakor trusted Suraj upright. Also I used to wonder the girl who gave an excellent explanation to Suraj about the hariyali teej rath where he was fully drunk and though tried to molest but desisted at the thought that he was loving Imli. (which he himself was not able to understand) felt that he could betray her when he was blindly loving her.

So Suraj had always had to prove his love to Chakor to the extent that he had to end his life to prove her that she is his life... i liked the way he said in the car while coming back, hamare jaan ki jaan katrey mey...


sorry for a long post!!!




First of all...šŸ‘ for this amazing post...
Truly speaking,you analysed it very aptly,I felt as if someone mirrored my thoughts..

P.S-I would like to request you to copy,paste this comment and post it in the main forum page,It really needs to be heard😳

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Just read yesterday's written update
Chakor and Suraj see Ragini's pic with Vivaan's doctor. Suraj says it means on Ragini's saying, that doctor made wrong reports for Vivaan. Vivaan says such a big cheat with me, Imli was saying true, no... He cries. Suraj says to save Imli's respect, I took the defamation on my head. Chakor cries and hugs him.

The dumbass didnt even care abt his wife and went to save the bitch and her respect...shows how much he respects his wife...

Conclusion

Suraj doesnt deserve chakor...he is simply lucky to get her...while chakor is awfully unlucky to get a husband who has never got over his ex
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well, here I'll play the devil's advocate 😊. I have a different pov, to me it looks like it was only Chakor who believed in him. She believed he could change. She believed in him when all evidences were agianst him. She believed in him upto the time he confirmed it himself that he is the father of the child. In fact, even after that she questions him about it and it is he who put the nail in the coffin saying that he was indeed the father and he is at fault. Obviously after that anyone would believe it. In fact, i am of the opinion that Chakor actually believed in Suraj's words the most.
After admitting to such a fact if he goes on to claim to love Chakor it would only be an idiot who would believe it. So obviously, Chakor stopped believing in him because according to her he broke her trust.
Edited by Vgn1 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sumsukor


Very true... thought to take a bit time to explain this...

one thing I realised after studying and analysing Chakor is that (kindly pardon me if I am wrong too and correct me ... my logic) even during the grey days Suraj though didnot wish to marry her but married her as to take a revenge of her swap... in the hindsight used her for his benefits -monetarily though but at the base, the relationship was always bit protective of her.. he know that he had a very shade of grey which was mainly an attention seeking from his father...to be superficially rough, rude, badass but has been craving for true affection and love. he had never even spoken bad about Chakor nor her relationship with Vivaan in a demeaning or derogatory way. It is a known factor that his relationship has ebbed slowy with the tide to the space that he was doting her as a guiding factor as he always said her dimaag is too sharp and also said her dimaag and his thaakath was an adhuri combination... he trusted her words without any questions and even during their fights she always won not that she was always right but he always gave in as he wanted her to win, as he thought she was born to win and can and should not fail. during their married life he had only respect and no love or lust for her. He developed bonding with her during the bandwa days as he felt she was the only soul who was helping him and he should do pooja for her. He never even tried to have any physical intimacy though they were always very close to each other and sometimes she was not in her senses too.

Chakor on the other hand has a wall against her she is the supergirl, jagatmata as she always says i am mai babu ka bahadhur baccha cannot cry. But at the heart she felt vulnerable and wanted that protection which she got from Suraj but with thorns around her to secure her, she did weave the magical wand around him and made him into a gentleman but always was putting him down at every chance.. ulti kopdi, akalmand, pakhandi, dimaag nahi, etc etc.. She refused to trust him but trusted all other... she did not have any feelings towards him until the she was rescued when she was being publicly humiliated and when he refused to be slap her.


Now coming to my point... when she started loving Suraj, her analytical brain was refusing to accept any of his explanation or to the fact even Imli's explanation. In fact I was bit taken aback at the character Chakor who knows everything, was not believing Imli (sorry at this point I felt she was saying something logic) when she said please check the reports it must be fake and she said she trusted Chakor when she said her drug test report was fake and uprightly trusted Vivan when he was charged with rape case without any second thought... Also Chakor's analytical brain refused to go over the dialogue when Suraj said imli ki bache ke baap hum kehelanyengey... i do not want to go into the unneccessary stupidity which went into...

But nowhere chakor trusted Suraj upright. Also I used to wonder the girl who gave an excellent explanation to Suraj about the hariyali teej rath where he was fully drunk and though tried to molest but desisted at the thought that he was loving Imli. (which he himself was not able to understand) felt that he could betray her when he was blindly loving her.

So Suraj had always had to prove his love to Chakor to the extent that he had to end his life to prove her that she is his life... i liked the way he said in the car while coming back, hamare jaan ki jaan katrey mey...


sorry for a long post!!!

1. respect?? I disagree..he tried to force himself on her and in the process he realised he loved imli. the next day he felt no remorse just got a bouquet for her so that she would help him still in making money..he never apologised to her..it was her goodness that made her see a different meaning to things on confesson night..

2. she was the only one trusted him and cared about him..his so called best friend couldn't care less about him..i would like to ask one thing just because chakor is right most of the times why does everybody wants her to be a supergirl?? I don't understand one thing- how can chakors trust issues be questioned when suraj USED HIS OWN MOUTH TO CONFESS...why do people expect her to be a superwoman and find some hidden meaning?? shouldn't it be suraj who should be questioned who never trusted her enough to tell her the truth..

3. he can give his own life but even after that he cannot tell her the truth...what love does suraj have for chakor even after drinking poison he cannot tell her the truth...he never intended to make chakor believe that hes not the father..

I would also like to ask a question- why are always chakors trust issues questioned?? in my pov everything chakor does wrong is blown out of proportion and everything suraj imli vivaan do is brushed under the carpet..why is suraj never ever held accountable in the show for what he did wrong to chakor? I m not asking for him to be punished or something but just accepting that he was also wrong..even that is too much??

sigh.. I swear I didn't want to write all this..i just dropped in to check if there was a meejay iv of Bhopal and couldn't keep myself from posting this!! but the writers agree with your pov so my writing anything wont change anything..šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


Edited by aishagup - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: chasa

Just read yesterday's written update

Chakor and Suraj see Ragini's pic with Vivaan's doctor. Suraj says it means on Ragini's saying, that doctor made wrong reports for Vivaan. Vivaan says such a big cheat with me, Imli was saying true, no... He cries. Suraj says to save Imli's respect, I took the defamation on my head. Chakor cries and hugs him.

The dumbass didnt even care abt his wife and went to save the bitch and her respect...shows how much he respects his wife...

Conclusion

Suraj doesnt deserve chakor...he is simply lucky to get her...while chakor is awfully unlucky to get a husband who has never got over his ex


I will always stick to saying this...Suraj did everything to protect Imli,not because she is his best friend but because IMLI IS CHAKOR'S SISTER AND SHE LOVES HER DEARLY...

and regarding the matter of deserve is concerned...truly speaking from day I am watching Udaan,and as far as I have analysed both Suraj and Chakor...no girl could have been able to live with Suraj,for the way he is,and no guy could have lived with Chakor,for the way she is...
THEY BOTH ARE THE MOST DESERVING TO EACH OTHER AND COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER LIKE ANYTHING...



Edited by KUTUR - 8 years ago
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It's not just his love but his whole character. To be fair to Chakor, some things needed to be cleared during their confession from Suraj's side. Her emotions didn't make her think clearly of the significance of the words he used. It's just that it seems that since Suraj hurt her, he's not allowed to feel hurt because of her actions.

Chakor loves him but doesn't value him as a person while Suraj loves her and respects her. Chakor is expected to be jagat mata and put her duty first but he can't do the same towards his friend. I wonder if his sacrifice for friendship didn't involve Imli but some other scenario, if the backlash against Suraj would've been the same.

Agreed my biggest surprise was that she didn't trust Imli at all.
Edited by meshmesh - 8 years ago
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Talking about the rape...
The day of confession when Chakor was talking about the day when her heart melted for Suraj...I don't why,before she said anything,I felt that she would talk about the alleged rape attempt...and she said exactly that...
Coz,truly speaking..Suraj,as a character made a place in my heart only that day,coz before that I was only drooling on his looks,personality and attitude...


I agreed that it was very wrong to do that,but the driving force behind his act was NOT LUST BUT INTENSE HATRED AND FEELING OF REVENGE,QUENCH OF HER DESTRUCTION..
And he didn't stopped,coz he feared Chakor's knife,but because,he himself realised that he was wrong...


I agree that the morning after...only a bouquet was not enough for his deed...but he didn't presented her because he wanted her to attend the charity event,coz she would have definitely done that without any apology or flowers,coz he was already blackmailing her...she had to agree any way..
What surprised me then was...A SORRY AND FLOWERS FROM THE THEN SURAJ RAJVANSHI WAS NEVER EXPECTED...but still he did so...
Although his attitude,didn't allowed him to express it fully..

If he would have lusted her or didn't respected her then,Chakor would had been raped by Suraj long ago...and no law,no weapon,no self-defence from Chakor's would have stopped him...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: meshmesh

It's not just his love but his whole character. To be fair to Chakor, some things needed to be cleared during their confession from Suraj's side. Her emotions didn't make her think clearly of the significance of the words he used. It's just that it seems that since Suraj hurt her, he's not allowed to feel hurt because of her actions.


Chakor loves him but doesn't value him as a person while Suraj loves her and respects her. Chakor is expected to be jagat mata and put her duty first but he can't do the same towards his friend. I wonder if his sacrifice for friendship didn't involve Imli but some other scenario, if the backlash against Suraj would've been the same.

Agreed my biggest surprise was that she didn't trust Imli at all.

@ Bold chakor well know that shameless bitch sister..and she will do anything for her selfishness life and bachuva ..becoz she alreday got pregnant from his husband.. so she didn't ready to failth imli in this bachva scenario.. 😔
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Originally posted by: KUTUR

Talking about the rape...

The day of confession when Chakor was talking about the day when her heart melted for Suraj...I don't why,before she said anything,I felt that she would talk about the alleged rape attempt...and she said exactly that...
Coz,truly speaking..Suraj,as a character made a place in my heart only that day,coz before that I was only drooling on his looks,personality and attitude...


I agreed that it was very wrong to do that,but the driving force behind his act was NOT LUST BUT INTENSE HATRED AND FEELING OF REVENGE,QUENCH OF HER DESTRUCTION..
And he didn't stopped,coz he feared Chakor's knife,but because,he himself realised that he was wrong...


I agree that the morning after...only a bouquet was not enough for his deed...but he didn't presented her because he wanted her to attend the charity event,coz she would have definitely done that without any apology or flowers,coz he was already blackmailing her...she had to agree any way..
What surprised me then was...A SORRY AND FLOWERS FROM THE THEN SURAJ RAJVANSHI WAS NEVER EXPECTED...but still he did so...
Although his attitude,didn't allowed him to express it fully..

If he would have lusted her or didn't respected her then,Chakor would had been raped by Suraj long ago...and no law,no weapon,no self-defence from Chakor's would have stopped him...


rabia wonderful! No one could have explained this better
Edited by Radhika_r - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: KUTUR

Talking about the rape...

The day of confession when Chakor was talking about the day when her heart melted for Suraj...I don't why,before she said anything,I felt that she would talk about the alleged rape attempt...and she said exactly that...
Coz,truly speaking..Suraj,as a character made a place in my heart only that day,coz before that I was only drooling on his looks,personality and attitude...


I agreed that it was very wrong to do that,but the driving force behind his act was NOT LUST BUT INTENSE HATRED AND FEELING OF REVENGE,QUENCH OF HER DESTRUCTION..
And he didn't stopped,coz he feared Chakor's knife,but because,he himself realised that he was wrong...


I agree that the morning after...only a bouquet was not enough for his deed...but he didn't presented her because he wanted her to attend the charity event,coz she would have definitely done that without any apology or flowers,coz he was already blackmailing her...she had to agree any way..
What surprised me then was...A SORRY AND FLOWERS FROM THE THEN SURAJ RAJVANSHI WAS NEVER EXPECTED...but still he did so...
Although his attitude,didn't allowed him to express it fully..

If he would have lusted her or didn't respected her then,Chakor would had been raped by Suraj long ago...and no law,no weapon,no self-defence from Chakor's would have stopped him...


Well sorry may not have been expected but Ill tell you one things it's not lust alone that results in rape, in fact what most rapists get is a sense of power over the victim and many rape cases have been initiated because of revenge as a motive. As for Suraj stopping, it happened not because of any respect for Chakor but because he saw Imli instead of Chakor. In fact, it was very clearly his supposed love for Imli that stopped him not because of any feelings for Chakor.
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