Healthy discussion on shivika separation

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Healthy discussions are welcome but please no bashing of shivaay or annika. I am shivika lover and love them both equally. For me both are equally responsible for separation. If annika gave it to Pinky blackmail then shivaay also ignored all the signs/truth. Took some lines from asya post too. Thank you Asya.
Sorry for the long rant but i need to grt these answers to clear my head i guess
It started from Mahi's drama, annika wanted to throw him immediately but he wanted to know the mastermind behibd it but he didn't even get to know that mahi was kameeni son and not related to ranveer. Then what information did he get from that. Probabky since mahi told he is najayaz so sso didn't feel need to check on him. But annika had to go thorugh so much. Then came NT matter, again annika wanted him to throw her right after knowing that truth but he wanted to know the mastermind behind. Again she had to go through emotional abuse from pinky but she agreed. Hr told her to be strong whatever the truth is but when she told him the truth, he dismissed it why bcoz his NKK mom can never do such things. He didnt even bother to give it a thought. When Om asked the right question that NT would bave got money through sahils kidnapping then why she came here. He ignored the question. Nt clearly pointed on annika that she is trying to separate shivaay from pinky but then also he didnt give a thought that why would NT say that? Someone would have definitely asked her to do right but he ignored it. In NT case annika got the point that whatever is the situation he will always believe his family over her no katter what. Then came prinku case. He just saw the video clip and yelled at her. Gauri can make out that door was still open when annika left but he didn't pay attention fully to clip once he saw annika. Later he said sorry that he knows she can't do it but then someone did it right to defame her but he didnt get to the root of it thaf who is trying to defame his wife. When she tried to say anything related to pinkg he asked her to stop. Then annika gave it to pinky demand. Jewellery scene, he knew that this is so not annika but rather than finding reason of her strange behaviour he was wondering that why didnt she returned to room.next day for property again he knew this is so not her but didn't go to her and asked her that whats wrong with her. She told truth to OmRu because they pushed her to tell them. They made a effort to know the reason behind her behaviour. I was expecting him to do the same. To understand that something is wrong with her. She told him that she knows his family completes him and he is nothing without his family and he said that till you are there no one can break it so she protected his family. I am very sure if she would have let pinky tell the truth then pinky would have twisted the truth for her own benefit or would have made other plan to hurt or throw annika and shivaay would have been blind to see his mothers deed because as he says maa pe ilzaam nhi lgate h so she did wgat pinkg asked her to. Made him hate so much that he himself throw her out.

She did a lot of things prior to today that have ensured and safeguarded the happiness of not only him but his Family as well. She took risks with her life not once but twice, selflessly, not wanting even praise in return, forget applause.
she was putting that important thing in jeopardy for the man who clearly could not even hear a word against his NKK (I mean his NKK family), no matter it was being said by the girl who almost died for him and this same Family twice (NT's scene about Pinky)

Annika knows that he needs to move on after she leaves because they are done and over with it at last, but you cannot really say the girl has not tried subtly through her body language, to give this man hints about her state of mind. She has given Shivvay many chances to fix this or at least investigate it but the man had and will choose to ignore it because it concerns his mother - his Family.

everyone upset that Daima's video was shown?? If you all claim that he was wronged by what she did then was she not wronged as well for him hiding it from her??
TRUST !!! the man says!!! Does he even know the meaning of that damn word!!!???
It was for this same video that Sahil and she were put through humiliation were they not??? So Om's humiliation cannot be borne (because he is a big boy and a grown man) but little Sahil should bear it for this grown man

How can a man who supposedly loves her so much, not clue in that there is something drastically wrong with my wife??!

He kept the divorce papers till now why? Did he know that he will find Gauri then they will do rituals again and then he would destroy them? Its been so long for divorce papers right then what was the point of keeping them.

What Annika did was wrong, she broke him. But it was necessary to go annika away from him so that they both will come as equals now in this relation. Till now there was not much take from annika side and she was taking Pinky emotional abuse from so long which was royally ignored by Shivaay and it would have continued for all life. SHivaay would have made her happy when he is with her but never would have he done anything for emotional abuse of his mother or may be wouldn't have even noticed that what is going on with his wife under his nose

DO you think if the same truth about Om would have told by Pinky or anyone else in family then he would have thrown them out? Pinky said so much harse words to Om Ru during Svet video and in many other occasions but did he throw her out? Pinky said so much disgusted things to annika, throwed her from hospital but did he say anything to Pinky for that?

Annika was insulted again and again, Pinky called her theif, compared with dog or what not in shitia sangeet but none of this family member could stop her. SHe was insulted being called as his mistress but none of the family member spoke anything. Everytime they wait for shivaay to speak why? Because he is the wall for them and all are depended on him so if he breaks (that wall breaks) then this family will break and it will break shivaay more so annika gave him his family.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Actually its just Gulneet who is wrong!
People tell me that they gave you shivika!
Ok!
If you kill your child isn't it a crime?
I watch a show for happiness!
I watched IB coz the lightness it gave to tracks like ML
Abh jo hoga hai!
100 episodes later all those people crying about our negativity!
Will be found in some dessert!
They'll go insane with all that Gul is going to serve p!

With ipkknd coming up!
Buckle up and get ready to be doomed!
Narbhi being together made the show!
This grand forced separation.
Bell to impending and everlasting doom!
Brace your hearts!
The rise of vampires and witches!

I'll never be able to forget terror of QH1 last scene *screams*
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Suffering from forced mental trauma!
Can I sue Gul for that?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MariaRebecca

Actually its just Gulneet who is wrong!

People tell me that they gave you shivika!
Ok!
If you kill your child isn't it a crime?
I watch a show for happiness!
I watched IB coz the lightness it gave to tracks like ML
Abh jo hoga hai!
100 episodes later all those people crying about our negativity!
Will be found in some dessert!
They'll go insane with all that Gul is going to serve p!

With ipkknd coming up!
Buckle up and get ready to be doomed!
Narbhi being together made the show!
This grand forced separation.
Bell to impending and everlasting doom!
Brace your hearts!
The rise of vampires and witches!

I'll never be able to forget terror of QH1 last scene *screams*

@bold: lol 😆

I have watched only HAYA part in QH so I am still giving IB a chance may be for one month and then I will decide whether to leave it completely or not. for now shivika are very much alive for me and i will be watching it for narbhi

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Both failed here!
SSO to see all the signs n to show to annika that NKAK doesn't matter to him, not only hers but also this whole concept of NKAK in itself! Annika felt he values his NKAK more than her in his life
Annika being the mahaan biwi now, she went to a very low level to get SSO to throw her out!

Anyway the CVs took a big gamble here, n despite the overall rejection of this track, they are forcing this on us n doing emotional blackmail for fans to watch! Didn't they countless of times say that if you don't like a track, switch the channel but don't give them negative reviews!
As regards to trp viewers liking this plot, I beg to differ! I have stopped watching the show since past few weeks now, however my mum is still watching! Note I never told her that shivika will separate yet! Everytime she discusses the show is more her anticipation and she's clearly waiting for pinky to be exposed not new vamps be added n SSO's marriage tracks again n again!
I wonder what my mum will do once she sees this new promo! She's gonna be so disappointed, note my mum isn't a shivika lover n wants to see them together, but she definitely will not like this evil winning n she feels ashamed to watch a mother like pinky😆

Anyway divorce will be finalised in 6 months, out of 3 months has been taken in the leap, this remaining 3 months will be about SSO's marriage tracks again n will defo depend on trps! If trps rises, this 3 months can last till New year, if trps are low, then be prepared to another half-baked track to forced annika back into OM. However no matter what happens, harneet is not exposing pinky at all, she's already justifying pinky's evilness by her sad past😆

Anyway IB runs more on shivika not even the story now! Let's see how long they can force this separation n angry SSO, illogical smiling tadibaaz annika

To end, positive or negative, Gul did say she doesn't care about online viewers and that we constitute only 2% of trp viewership! So let's stop this blame game, emotional blackmailing to watch the show just to prove we are fans or not! We have nothing in our power, we can't control the trp viewers, we can only control our own decisions!
Also a show is a hit not only because of CVs, but it's a give n take relationship! IB wouldn't be here at this stage without its fans, whole fans I mean not those who just flatter the CVs but also the ones who complain too!
The CVs should stop to feel they are doing us a favor here! They exist n still exist because fans are watching the show! Remove the fans, the show will crumple down no matter what tracks harneet May give!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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What Gul says about digital viewers not being real viewers are actually right.
If I need to watch the show on tv @10. My grandmere an ex prof in civil engg. Will be like "Did you study aqueduct design in that you should know..." blah blah. So I mostly run coz I hate being disturbed during good IB!
Even if I tell her she won't understand. She'll go like "I am telling for you good.." ok I just don't watch tv. When the epis are so good like once or twice in a month.
So I can't do gangaram of my mood by even trying!
Edited by MariaRebecca - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nice post 😊 i feel the creators did shove the seperation down our throats but only cause there might have thought there wasnt much left. They portrayed shivaay and anika inseparable and they probably realized it happened to fast so they brought the lapse to re boot the drama. Im kinda excited i loved shivika so far and i feel like its only gonna get better we are going to get the old annika back who i missed soo much.and im dying to see a jealous shivaay its gonna be awesome. The intensity in there story is going to be back if they portray it right. Im just going to keep my fingers crossed!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I'm confused by " if his mom said it would he kick his mom out" comments. Why would he kick his mom out? Isn't that Shakti and Daadi's job, which they failed miserably at 😆 They brought her into the house and family not Shivaay. Pinky said awful things to Omru, but no one ever kicked her out then. Omru took it in stride like how he takes Tej's taunts quietly. I guess he assumed Anika would follow suit and be like them because that seems to the way they handle Pinky and Tej's outbursts. Not saying it's right, but everyone just ignores them and labels as "that's just how they are", which most people do for their crappy family members. I'm curious to see what happens to her when the truth is revealed. Will she be ostracized or kicked out.

I could be wrong, but I think the whole point was to draw parallels between Pinky and Anika. One wants to destroy him to get what she wants while the destroys herself to give him what she thinks he needs to survive (being an Oberoi). The intention is different , but the method is the same and equally wrong so naturally his reaction will be wrong too.

Usually only one character gets butchered per track, but this time the writers butchered everyone. Pinky is a monster, Anika is degrading herself in the name of love, Omru's fake drama, Shivaay's
retaliation with the divorce, Daadi questioning Anika, and Jhanvi standing by letting these idiots do this. No one survived this mess 😆


Edited by onlyrani - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haruhi_Mo

Both failed here!

SSO to see all the signs n to show to annika that NKAK doesn't matter to him, not only hers but also this whole concept of NKAK in itself! Annika felt he values his NKAK more than her in his life
Annika being the mahaan biwi now, she went to a very low level to get SSO to throw her out!

Anyway the CVs took a big gamble here, n despite the overall rejection of this track, they are forcing this on us n doing emotional blackmail for fans to watch! Didn't they countless of times say that if you don't like a track, switch the channel but don't give them negative reviews!
As regards to trp viewers liking this plot, I beg to differ! I have stopped watching the show since past few weeks now, however my mum is still watching! Note I never told her that shivika will separate yet! Everytime she discusses the show is more her anticipation and she's clearly waiting for pinky to be exposed not new vamps be added n SSO's marriage tracks again n again!
I wonder what my mum will do once she sees this new promo! She's gonna be so disappointed, note my mum isn't a shivika lover n wants to see them together, but she definitely will not like this evil winning n she feels ashamed to watch a mother like pinky😆

Anyway divorce will be finalised in 6 months, out of 3 months has been taken in the leap, this remaining 3 months will be about SSO's marriage tracks again n will defo depend on trps! If trps rises, this 3 months can last till New year, if trps are low, then be prepared to another half-baked track to forced annika back into OM. However no matter what happens, harneet is not exposing pinky at all, she's already justifying pinky's evilness by her sad past😆

Anyway IB runs more on shivika not even the story now! Let's see how long they can force this separation n angry SSO, illogical smiling tadibaaz annika

To end, positive or negative, Gul did say she doesn't care about online viewers and that we constitute only 2% of trp viewership! So let's stop this blame game, emotional blackmailing to watch the show just to prove we are fans or not! We have nothing in our power, we can't control the trp viewers, we can only control our own decisions!
Also a show is a hit not only because of CVs, but it's a give n take relationship! IB wouldn't be here at this stage without its fans, whole fans I mean not those who just flatter the CVs but also the ones who complain too!
The CVs should stop to feel they are doing us a favor here! They exist n still exist because fans are watching the show! Remove the fans, the show will crumple down no matter what tracks harneet May give!


@bold: Thats the point. Both are wrong in some or the other way and I am not blaming anyone. Some fans are blaming annika and some shivaay so just getting the POV that how for them only one is wrong and not both
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AR-MAANEET

Nice post 😊 i feel the creators did shove the seperation down our throats but only cause there might have thought there wasnt much left. They portrayed shivaay and anika inseparable and they probably realized it happened to fast so they brought the lapse to re boot the drama. Im kinda excited i loved shivika so far and i feel like its only gonna get better we are going to get the old annika back who i missed soo much.and im dying to see a jealous shivaay its gonna be awesome. The intensity in there story is going to be back if they portray it right. Im just going to keep my fingers crossed!


I loved your positivity and yes separation is totally forced by CV but I have passed this test now and I am nore exited for post lapse episodes 😊

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