A letter to Ishwari by Sudha Murthy, Chairperson of INFOSYS FOUNDATION - Page 5

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317

Pramila...first of all, I am the one who knows how my hubby & MIL was and I am the one who had the first hand experience with them...I have already shared many of my experiences in many posts; so I don't want to repeat it again. Secondly, I don't feel that the Dixit family is to be considered as untouchables or it is a disgrace to compare my family with them. Because, I can see and understand them as human beings who are flawed and I believe in the inner strengths God has given me; not on what I presume is my strength.


Dixit family not just flawed, they committed sin. Eshwari being mother differentiated between her own children. She snatched basic rights of neha. And dev mahan, snatched jobs which made whole family to suffer. But this is serial...so it is heropanti which I don't relate to.

I understand, spineless cowardness and politics in the family. But thankfully I belong to a very progressive thinking family though my MIL not educated(to the extent she cannot read time). So for me it is definitely a extreme behaviour of Dixit's I am not able to relate and when people justify their behavior.

If you had gone through such a pathetic life...I feel really sorry for you. But you agree, it is not normal behaviour. So we have to condemn such acts. It starts from home. At least next generation does not have to go through this torture.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Fair enough. The reason this show has so many followers are because various people can relate to different characters. I am happy for you that your patience and perseverance paid off and you are now in a happy place.

However, I am of the opinion that life is short and my time is valuable. So I don't have patience for people who belittle other people or treat them like an object - a toy she acquired for her son which is what Ishwari treated Sonakshi as. In short, an user. So yes, I hate Ishwari. I have never seen nor faced these kind of people in my life and I am glad for it.

The reason I am most angry with Ishwari is that she keeps using motherhood as some ideal whereas she doesn't even acknowledge Sonakshi being the mother of Soha. Her treatment of another mother is so callous that sorry, she doesn't deserve the respect of a mother because of that.

And the way she treated Sona when she found out about her infertility is lowest of the low. After that, she doesn't get nor deserve any other consideration at least from me anymore.

At least the people who throws out their daughter-in-law on the street for their inability to have children are honest. Ishwari pretends to be a mother and sings of motherhood songs while she back stabs people and uses them for her own selfish reasons. That's not insecurity. That's cunning nature. An insecure person won't have been able to sit still when her son go for a business trip either. But she is fine if her son is out making money.

However, at the same time, I acknowledge that you are entitled to your opinion and as I am.

Originally posted by: grace4317


Tia...thank you for that long reply, though it was sarcasm at its best...But, to be honest, I am not at all an Ishwari hater. Rather, if I keep aside her manipulative acts & thoughts, I can totally relate with her. Because, though not in such a gravity as we feel for Sona, I also had similar experiences with the haq jataofying, taunting/parents insulting part & insecurities part with my MIL. But, by Gods' grace and with the strength, wisdom & patience God gave me, I could change that into a relation where my hubby is now proud of. I can't express in words how I feel when he proudly tells his friends, how I take care of his mom and how she prefers to stay with me whenever possible. I agree, my hubby & MIL didn't have such an obsessive relation as Dev-Ishwari; but still the initial years were very difficult. But now that I am reaping the benefits of that little patience & understanding I showed those days, I don't have any complaints or bitterness of those days. Infact, I see those days as the time God helped me to understand how strong a woman can be and how with His help, can support your loved ones to change...Aakhir, ye duniya mein mamma's boys ko bhi mazze se jeena kya hai, patha hona chaahiye, na...So, there should be someone who can patiently support them in bringing that change...And I prefer to be one of them...😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pramila.harish


Dixit family not just flawed, they committed sin. Eshwari being mother differentiated between her own children. She snatched basic rights of neha. And dev mahan, snatched jobs which made whole family to suffer. But this is serial...so it is heropanti which I don't relate to.

I understand, spineless cowardness and politics in the family. But thankfully I belong to a very progressive thinking family though my MIL not educated(to the extent she cannot read time). So for me it is definitely a extreme behaviour of Dixit's I am not able to relate and when people justify their behavior.

If you had gone through such a pathetic life...I feel really sorry for you. But you agree, it is not normal behaviour. So we have to condemn such acts. It starts from home. At least next generation does not have to go through this torture.


Bolded - Pramila, I was not justifying their behaviour. What I did was to just help them out of that cocoon...And being a compassionate human being I believe that they also have a right to live a peaceful life and if I am ready to help them out, what is the big deal in that.

Red bolded - Till now I have never felt that I had been through a pathetic life...Because I have grown up seeing my grandmothers and their contemporaries who have struggled twice or thrice than our generation has gone through. When compared to them, I have been blessed with lots of freedom, oppurtunities, facilities etc. And inspite of all these limitations, if they could work hard and be patient with their situations, then why can't I? My maternal grandmother always used to remind me that instead of concentrating on what we do not have, if we concentrate on how much more we are blessed than the less privileged, we will learn to be content with what we have. And that's what I have applied in all areas of my life.

Finally ending with two quotes,

''It is the cheerful mind that is persevering. It is the strong mind that hews its way through a thousand difficulties''. - Swami Vivekananda

"The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317


Bolded - Pramila, I was not justifying their behaviour. What I did was to just help them out of that cocoon...And being a compassionate human being I believe that they also have a right to live a peaceful life and if I am ready to help them out, what is the big deal in that.

Red bolded - Till now I have never felt that I had been through a pathetic life...Because I have grown up seeing my grandmothers and their contemporaries who have struggled twice or thrice than our generation has gone through. When compared to them, I have been blessed with lots of freedom, oppurtunities, facilities etc. And inspite of all these limitations, if they could work hard and be patient with their situations, then why can't I? My maternal grandmother always used to remind me that instead of concentrating on what we do not have, if we concentrate on how much more we are blessed than the less privileged, we will learn to be content with what we have. And that's what I have applied in all areas of my life.

Finally ending with two quotes,

''It is the cheerful mind that is persevering. It is the strong mind that hews its way through a thousand difficulties''. - Swami Vivekananda

"The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well."
Ralph Waldo Emerson


Beautiful quotes grace. It applies to all the genders. We have to make our family people to generous each other. They should know respecting and loving each other. Also they should know give and take...It is our responsibility to make healthy family.

I am being married for 21 yrs. I really understand what is adjusting and accepting and compromises in life. I am a mangalorean and in my caste we female are successor of our family. Eg...my mother got her parents house. So you can imagine my family background. We females are equal in every decision making. It doesn't mean that we are loud and disrespectful towards our husband. We give high priority to our husband and their family. But same time we give more love to daughters and daughter in laws. Here actually I am shocked to see and hear from people that after going through difficulties in their life..still justify dixit's behaviour. So I raised my concern. I am not saying you should have backed out or withdrawn. I am happy you could make it. But my concern is people should raise this as issue but not as normal human being flaws. Around us many gounger generation people are here. They should not think it ok to be like that. What you went through others should not go through this. Hope you understand my concern. You know the family background really matters for personality and thinking.


I think its my first time chatting with you. Sorry if I affended you.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pramila.harish


Beautiful quotes grace. It applies to all the genders. We have to make our family people to generous each other. They should know respecting and loving each other. Also they should know give and take...It is our responsibility to make healthy family.

I am being married for 21 yrs. I really understand what is adjusting and accepting and compromises in life. I am a mangalorean and in my caste we female are successor of our family. Eg...my mother got her parents house. So you can imagine my family background. We females are equal in every decision making. It doesn't mean that we are loud and disrespectful towards our husband. We give high priority to our husband and their family. But same time we give more love to daughters and daughter in laws. Here actually I am shocked to see and hear from people that after going through difficulties in their life..still justify dixit's behaviour. So I raised my concern. I am not saying you should have backed out or withdrawn. I am happy you could make it. But my concern is people should raise this as issue but not as normal human being flaws. Around us many gounger generation people are here. They should not think it ok to be like that. What you went through others should not go through this. Hope you understand my concern. You know the family background really matters for personality and thinking.


I think its my first time chatting with you. Sorry if I affended you.

Bolded - Hi Pramila (or should I call u Pramila dii; bcos u must be 2-3yrs elder to me, based on the yrs of married life) ...It's true that I was taken aback when you said that I was disgracing my family, by equating them with the Dixits...But, I didn't feel it offensive to me. I felt it offensive to the Dixits...😆😆😆...Because, as I said earlier, I haven't yet felt that they are someone to be crazily hated...But, as you said, each one of us have our own views, based on our religious beliefs, our surroundings, culture and how we are brought up...So, it's better we acknowledge each other as we are and continue having friendly discussions...Living & let living policy...Hope none of my words have offended you too.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank u
It's nice to read this
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Posted: 8 years ago
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V nice article and nice to read. thank u for sharing.
I have a doubt is it written by sudha moorthy mam??? She mentioned that house in chennai... But she lives in Bangalore near my aunts place and they r neighbours... And v simple down to earth family...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: srikalaganesh

V nice article and nice to read. thank u for sharing.

I have a doubt is it written by sudha moorthy mam??? She mentioned that house in chennai... But she lives in Bangalore near my aunts place and they r neighbours... And v simple down to earth family...


Srikala...someone else had raised the same doubt...So, if you get any proof which says the author is different, then let me know. I shall change the title.
I had checked on the net before posting it and all the links I got mentioned Sudhaji's name only.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Haha hey
I just read this wonderful letter By Mrs Murthy and was left teary eyed in the end..also read comments around..Human emotions are very complicated and every indivisual has their own way of handeling and dealng with it

I have conveyed this a few times hating is not simething I can do..It doesnt come to me from with in..What Ishwari is and how she has been its not something normal..Thats true but then the extent of hatred I feel like almost everyone has for her just disturbs me..If a person suffers from some problem has certain issues then..What is wise thing to do in such situation ..abandom them ??.. leave then to di on their own??.. let them suffer and rot in hel??.. OR help them to come out of it..support them and make them see their problems find solutions to it..and try and give them a decent life so they can be happy too

Ishwari has done major blunders in past but if she will not be helped then situation will get from bad to worse..what will be the ultimate result of it..something very terrible , disastrous may be

even If I have not practically seen such examples around me but I have heard about them..may be to not to this extent but surely similar to it and since you said you have faced something closer..you can understand &..analyze it better

Well I totally understand the letter and its intention
I believe once you face it you learn to accept it and adjust according to it..but its not so easy for everyone :) some are flexible some are not and some are very rigid but thats how human beings are

Also lastly I can bet if Ishwari has not be sufferring from these problem she would have been best motnr and mothr in law one can imagine even better then Asha..For sure

Thanks fr sharing it :)





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