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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: AngelsFlyAlone


This is a very clear line of thinking, except that Dev Dixit has enforced than the definition of feminism is that women are superior to males (which it isn't).

Because it takes too much effort for me to write down every misconception related to feminists, I'm just copypasting these brilliant points.

1. Misconception #1: Feminism Is Essentially About Male Bashing

No, it isn't. That'd be misandry, which feminism is often mistaken for. By definition, feminism means the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.' All feminism believes in is for women to be treated as equals. Not above or below anybody, just equal. Feminists don't set out on a slaughter spree the moment they see men. Their agenda of demanding equal rights has nothing to do with man-hating. They don't judge all men to be chauvinist and sexist just on the basis of their gender. What they disapprove of, really, is patriarchy and the idea that man is superior to woman and of course, anybody who promotes it in any form, irrespective of the gender. And a feminist who hates men solely because they belong to the other gender is no feminist.

2. Misconception #2: Only Women Can Be Feminists

Just like you don't have to be an animal to support animal rights, you don't have to be a woman to support equal rights for women. Feminism is an idea that aims at providing equal opportunities to women and supporting it has nothing to do with your gender. Men can be feminists too, and you'd be surprised to know a lot of them already are. Anybody who supports equal rights for women is a feminist.

3. Misconception #3: Feminists Love All Women Alike

That's just about as true as the first misconception. The fight for feminism is against anybody who supports and implements patriarchy in any form, whether that person is a male or a female. Women are equally responsible for letting the nation get devoured by patriarchy ever since we formed a society.

4. Misconception #4: Feminism Is Detrimental To Men

A lot of men are up in arms even at the mention of feminism because they feel endangered by its impact. Even though feminism is primarily about fighting for equal rights for women, it benefits us as men equally. Feminism puts an end to not just gender roles for women, but those for men too. It supports the idea of men not having to succumb to the societal pressures of being the fender, the bread winner and someone with superhuman strength as much as it advocates that women be allowed to break out of stereotypes.

5. Misconception #5: Feminism Is The Fight For Power And Matriarchy

It is a common myth that the day feminism takes over the world, men would become oppressed. It is not power and supremacy that feminists want. Only equality. Real feminism disapproves of matriarchy as much as it scorns the patriarchal set up. Feminism is not the fight for power; it is the fight to bring women up to the same pedestal as men.

6. Misconception # 6: Feminists Are A Stuck Up, Crazy, And A Touchy Bunch

Feminists don't lack sense of humour. Hysterical' is the word often used to describe feminists. But not all of them lash out at every other remark made at them. They're not a violent bunch of people who take to social media at the drop of a hat, creating issues out of nothing.

So those were a few of them and trust me there are so many more. Even things like 'oh they're all adamant career minded women'. Truth is you could be in a hijab or a bikini and still be feminist. It has nothing to do with that.

There are men who later ask 'oh so now you want women to be more powerful than men?' Which mean, YOU AGREE that this world is unequal. Also wanna touch on the fact that both men and women misuse this word, as the examples you gave clearly show that. But in this world, even men are faced to equal amount of sexism when the world sees a man working in a nursery or seeing a baby boy enjoying playing with dolls. So Feminism and its correct use refer to gender equality. And then you take it a step further to intersectional feminism which is universal equality.


Angel, I am really sorry but I don't think we can discuss on any issue. You are quoting from books and I am quoting from life experiences. You yourself said you are fifteen. So you are my daughters age and therefore I can safely guess are still living in a very protected environment . Please don't take it otherwise but for any healthy adult discussion to take place, there has to be at least some common ground which we don't have. I really will not be able to converse with you like an adult especially after knowing your correct age.

My shortcoming, I know, and I apologise for it.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Wonderful. Your post and Dev's line.


thanks😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: TwinFlames

liked that conversation 👏 nice post


thanks😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: luvurishbala

Completely agree.

Ek taraf tum kehthi ho ki ladkiyaan ladke equal hai or dusri aur kehthi ho ki ladkiyaan better hai...


thanks😊..exactly
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Payalj_

Feminism started as a correct movement. It still is if used in the correct spirit as there are a lot of women who still don't have basic human rights.

But like all good things it has also been severely misused. It always meant men and women are equal, the problem came when some women decided to exploit it for undue advantage.

Feminism means same standard of judgement for all. But some interpreted it as same standard where it suits us, preferential treatment where it suits us. This is what has led to the word feminist being used like a degrading word. If we feel humiliated by that we have to stop women from misusing and exploiting feminism instead of blindly supporting them just because they are a woman.

I will give two real life examples

1. One of my colleagues just didn't believe in working properly and caused severe loss to the company due to her negligence. When our boss shouted at her, instead of accepting her mistake simply told me tell him to behave with me, else I will file a case of sexual harassment. The poor boss had just shouted at her as he would have shouted at anu junior for such an error.

2. One of my own juniors created a scene when I gave her lesser rating than a male junior. . As per she can't work till late hours as she is a female but she should get promoted at par with her male colleagues.

These are just two examples. One faces several in real life. That day I read somewhere that both father and mother should take equal maternity and paternity leave - six six months!

Please ask the father to breastfeed also!! After all why care about the child's rights to a healthy life? Only the mothers rights are important. At times such assertions become so illogical that you feel like banging your head. Why does one use male labour if a boulder is to be removed? Same way a woman is needed for showing the unlimited patience and love a child needs. It's the way God made them with different mentalities. If the mentalities and persona are not different why do people go for sex change operations? Not for fulfilling only sexual needs, believe me. There is much more to being a woman or man than that.

the sufferers in this process are the women whose rights are actually being infringed
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My maid's daughter who was asked to drop out of school so that her brother could study, needs to be a feminist but due to the women like I have stated above, feminist has become a swear word. So when I tell my maid's daughter to be a feminist, she gets told by others that it is a wrong thing.

It's almost like the religious preachers and fanatics who due to their acts have literally made people think that some religions per se are bad.

Dev's definition in the previous episode was in line with the perception which women themselves have created due to their selfishness and greed.


thanks😊
agreed with all ur points...exact real life experiences which even I have faced in my office..I am a grown up professional btw...

my POV was same it has been taken in a wrong sense..thank u ...for putting in correct words...which I may not have done..hence such a long debate😆
Edited by dhank - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: .kashishbano.

Kudos to the writer and well said dear.

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Do much daring they did as they are right no need to worry.

I second to Your Thoughts.


I too don't want Anything by considering me a women.


thanks adi🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Jade0001

Interesting Post

The conversation between Dev and Sona was matured and yes Dev's dialogue was just spot on
the writers do always bring out the interest of society and I like that very much


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Posted: 8 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: survika1111

Feminism Is Such a word which has Been highly misused.Misunderstood And Has given so much misconception...

people take feminism as Females Are here too prove themselves Better than male
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But In real there Is sth To Be Equal..But Most of the fem use it as To Make themselves Superior..

Woman righs,Woman power These terms are really a pride To use But Upjhold the real meaning is too difficult

Woman Right or feminism Give u The Right To Estimate Women a bit upper but it doesn't give u the right To Underestimate male..To Show ur power u i's not needed To Point Out other weakness..To Use Ur strength It's not necessary To Prove Other Other Weak..

Most of the time I saw feminism has been confused with such an explanation where A female need to always right and a male will Be always Wrong..a Girl at The end Will Play her woman Power Card and Will Prove That She has some extra power to Rule over a man..burt that's not a feminism..

Not even feminism... chauvenism Or any other "NISM" in ThE world don't give any theory that will let a Gender To Belittle The opposite one..U will be big..But not by making oither Little but By giving the equal Right,respect To opposite gender/Party/Team/Partner..


That convo was perfect..So What the dev said..

Sonakshi was saying tum toh ladke ho kiyu karoge..and This line really don't match the actual Meaning of equality so Does it give The Biased Sense of being feminist..And then dev said Tum Equality ki baat karti ho ek taraf and then feminist ban jate ho..so true..this Actully confuse people what is a feminism..!!! Comparison can't be a part of any kind "NISM"..if u need to compare urself with other then what is Special in u for Which U can claim tht u deserve to be Different or have some special right..

Very nice post dear..I loved it



thanks survi😊

superb post👏

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