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The first half of the episode made me want to make an O2 thread cuz that chainsaw bit and Tej basically having a drunk fit was GOLD for O2 😆 I pretty much called the episode useless based on the updates I had skimmed on twitter (cuz Elvs is a boss in giving updates! 👏) but surprisingly the episode was GOOD 😲 Which is why I scrapped O2 for today and instead am making an essay post (something I never thought I'd do but I guess old habits die hard)

I can't understand why Omkara is so hell bent on keeping the TejVi relationship intact. I don't have IB knowledge so I don't really know whether these two had patched up or not. Regardless of them patching up temporarily and again being strangers like this, point is that they didn't really have the healthiest of relationships. As a child Omkara learned the reality that not all was well between his parents (ye alag baat hai ke despite that they ended up having THREE kids but ye also bohat purani baat hai 😆) In fact, Jhanvi had resorted to finding peace in alcohol because being with Tej was this torturous for her (why did they scrap this detail again?) Logically her children who are SO on her side would want her to get out of this toxic relationship for her own self.

Which brings me to Jhanvi. What does she see in this relationship? Divorce is a word strictly frowned upon in the Oberoi Khandaan, I get that. But Tej doesn't even treat her like a basic human being with feelings. What "love" is binding her to this man? Maybe the makers want to show that even educated and rich woman can fall into the trappings of patriarchal society ke Pati Nahin Toh Kuch Nahin.

And that makes me empathize with Tej. Yeah, I was so #TeamTej today because the man has resorted to ACTUALLY sawing his own bed in two to prove a point that this marriage is over. Man, this show takes symbolism to the next level 😆 Khair it was better than my previous assumption that Tej wanted to KILL Jhanvi with a chainsaw cuz that would've been...woah xD Point is that Tej was RIGHT in whatever he said in the scene. That he has done all he can to give Jhanvi an out. He doesn't want to live with her, he doesn't want to make things worse between them if that's possible; if Jhanvi would just understand it then they could've reached an agreeable divorce settlement. Maybe he's not right in simply saying to Jhanvi, "Get out of my house" because that's when her children interfering makes sense. But Tej's actions might be questionable, his intention isn't..he just wants this marriage to be literally over because really, there's nothing left in it.

Now, RiKara.

I know Gauri is the one who'd play a major role in untangling the crazy threads of Tej's family. And it started today. She gives Omkara the perspective which he lacks. He has all this frustration of watching this tamasha going on for YEARS. He's at his breaking point and that's where Gauri came in and she came in just right. By stopping him from breaking the statue, she figuratively stopped him from completely losing his faith. Omkara was throwing a tantrum that God wasn't doing anything and it took Gauri, a girl who breathes on Vishwas, to make him realize that it's not God's job to deal with domestic affairs. That's a human's job...God is just there to guide you and give you strength to deal with the affairs. That is something that really resonated with Omkara because he never looked at things this way.

Naysayers' major complaint with RiKara is that there's no "takkar" between these two. She's already so devoted to him that there's no fiery spark or intensity these two share. But just because they aren't polar opposites doesn't mean there's no takkar between the two. Opposites attract, that's true. But for a long term relationship one side HAS to become the same as the other. Black and White have to merge to be Grey for a sustainable relationship. Omkara's tantrum proved that right now what he needs isn't someone who will force him to change more, but someone who'd bring him back to what he used to be. Because even that was flawed. But this time when he'd go back, he'll fix his thoughts and philosophies which are frankly quite hypocritical in practice.

I loved how Gauri could calm him down. I loved how she said that he has a right to take out his anger at her and in return just LISTEN to what she has to say. And I loved how whatever she said had such an instant effect on him that not only did he see the error in his method but he also smiled. He actually SMILED. He smiled because she called a bad "palang". He smiled because Chulbul's simplicity was endearing to him. Why? Because Omkara lacks this simplicity in his life. He is surrounded by people who are scheming to get something or the other. There's lies and deceits and plans all around him and that has muddled his own perspective. Which is why he had treated Gauri the way he did (in Bareilly) But in comes Chulbul who has his own, untainted view of the world. And more than a cunning lady who would force Omkara to wake up at nights planning the next "chaal", Omkara needs someone who'll allow him to sit back and enjoy the small beauties of life. Of course when Chulbul's secret would be out, chances are that Omkara would turn even angrier at the world. But that's another din ka qissa...

(excuse the word vomit which might not have made any sense 😆)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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everything you said just makes so much sense.. Gauri's words were the highlight of the episode. And I for once agree with Tej. The whole family is forcing him to stay in a relationship that he is done with. they are basically forcing this relationship on him. And forced relations have no meaning. His words actually made sense to me today. He was frustrated beyond anything trying to explain to them that he is done.. Granted the man is ungrateful but that is his wish.. so why are they all suffering? Why isn't Jhanvi walking away and saving her dignity\?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.

The first half of the episode made me want to make an O2 thread cuz that chainsaw bit and Tej basically having a drunk fit was GOLD for O2 😆 I pretty much called the episode useless based on the updates I had skimmed on twitter (cuz Elvs is a boss in giving updates! 👏) but surprisingly the episode was GOOD 😲 Which is why I scrapped O2 for today and instead am making an essay post (something I never thought I'd do but I guess old habits die hard)

I can't understand why Omkara is so hell bent on keeping the TejVi relationship intact. I don't have IB knowledge so I don't really know whether these two had patched up or not. Regardless of them patching up temporarily and again being strangers like this, point is that they didn't really have the healthiest of relationships. As a child Omkara learned the reality that not all was well between his parents (ye alag baat hai ke despite that they ended up having THREE kids but ye also bohat purani baat hai 😆) In fact, Jhanvi had resorted to finding peace in alcohol because being with Tej was this torturous for her (why did they scrap this detail again?) Logically her children who are SO on her side would want her to get out of this toxic relationship for her own self.

Which brings me to Jhanvi. What does she see in this relationship? Divorce is a word strictly frowned upon in the Oberoi Khandaan, I get that. But Tej doesn't even treat her like a basic human being with feelings. What "love" is binding her to this man? Maybe the makers want to show that even educated and rich woman can fall into the trappings of patriarchal society ke Pati Nahin Toh Kuch Nahin.

And that makes me empathize with Tej. Yeah, I was so #TeamTej today because the man has resorted to ACTUALLY sawing his own bed in two to prove a point that this marriage is over. Man, this show takes symbolism to the next level 😆 Khair it was better than my previous assumption that Tej wanted to KILL Jhanvi with a chainsaw cuz that would've been...woah xD Point is that Tej was RIGHT in whatever he said in the scene. That he has done all he can to give Jhanvi an out. He doesn't want to live with her, he doesn't want to make things worse between them if that's possible; if Jhanvi would just understand it then they could've reached an agreeable divorce settlement. Maybe he's not right in simply saying to Jhanvi, "Get out of my house" because that's when her children interfering makes sense. But Tej's actions might be questionable, his intention isn't..he just wants this marriage to be literally over because really, there's nothing left in it.

Now, RiKara.

I know Gauri is the one who'd play a major role in untangling the crazy threads of Tej's family. And it started today. She gives Omkara the perspective which he lacks. He has all this frustration of watching this tamasha going on for YEARS. He's at his breaking point and that's where Gauri came in and she came in just right. By stopping him from breaking the statue, she figuratively stopped him from completely losing his faith. Omkara was throwing a tantrum that God wasn't doing anything and it took Gauri, a girl who breathes on Vishwas, to make him realize that it's not God's job to deal with domestic affairs. That's a human's job...God is just there to guide you and give you strength to deal with the affairs. That is something that really resonated with Omkara because he never looked at things this way.

Naysayers' major complaint with RiKara is that there's no "takkar" between these two. She's already so devoted to him that there's no fiery spark or intensity these two share. But just because they aren't polar opposites doesn't mean there's no takkar between the two. Opposites attract, that's true. But for a long term relationship one side HAS to become the same as the other. Black and White have to merge to be Grey for a sustainable relationship. Omkara's tantrum proved that right now what he needs isn't someone who will force him to change more, but someone who'd bring him back to what he used to be. Because even that was flawed. But this time when he'd go back, he'll fix his thoughts and philosophies which are frankly quite hypocritical in practice.

I loved how Gauri could calm him down. I loved how she said that he has a right to take out his anger at her and in return just LISTEN to what she has to say. And I loved how whatever she said had such an instant effect on him that not only did he see the error in his method but he also smiled. He actually SMILED. He smiled because she called a bad "palang". He smiled because Chulbul's simplicity was endearing to him. Why? Because Omkara lacks this simplicity in his life. He is surrounded by people who are scheming to get something or the other. There's lies and deceits and plans all around him and that has muddled his own perspective. Which is why he had treated Gauri the way he did (in Bareilly) But in comes Chulbul who has his own, untainted view of the world. And more than a cunning lady who would force Omkara to wake up at nights planning the next "chaal", Omkara needs someone who'll allow him to sit back and enjoy the small beauties of life. Of course when Chulbul's secret would be out, chances are that Omkara would turn even angrier at the world. But that's another din ka qissa...

(excuse the word vomit which might not have made any sense 😆)



@bold= ur each and every word for rikara 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 u said it all ⭐️


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Finally I got attached to RiKara...This jodi makes sense. I agree with your point of black and white merging to make gray...that was a deep thought, but there in lies the gist of RiKara as well. Now we know why gauri is like she is cause that's the missing piece of Omkara's life, the untainted simplicity, that sees things for what they are without complicating them by adding their own intentions and motives to the mix.
I'm team Tej too...the guy makes sense, and no matter how much I despise him he too deserves to be free. Jhanvi should understand there's nothing salvageable in their relationship at this point. I'm not sure why she doesn't though.
Too good post. Thank you for this!
Love,
Sakura
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Posted: 8 years ago
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The way Tej sawed the bed seemed as if he desperately wanted was his bed back to sleep in but Jhanvi wasn't letting him have it. He even looked sleep-deprived in that scene...😆

But Tej did have a point with regards to the marriage. It was over long back and better to acknowledge it and get it over with. Om is fighting the wrong battle. Its not Tej who needs to be taught a lesson right now but Jhanvi who needs to needs to do some learning.

I liked the Om-Chulbul scene and how Gauri managed to make Om smile amidst all this. Poor guy actually needed it. It would be nice to see more such bonding between the two.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post!! I agree, Tej had to resort to such extremes to get his point across.
Gauri is simply wow!! I love that girl even more today. What she said is so true.

Your point of black and white merging to become grey, beautifully said. There is no my way or the highway in marriage. Both parties involved have to work for it and at it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakura24

Finally I got attached to RiKara...This jodi makes sense. I agree with your point of black and white merging to make gray...that was a deep thought, but there in lies the gist of RiKara as well. Now we know why gauri is like she is cause that's the missing piece of Omkara's life, the untainted simplicity, that sees things for what they are without complicating them by adding their own intentions and motives to the mix.

I'm team Tej too...the guy makes sense, and no matter how much I despise him he too deserves to be free. Jhanvi should understand there's nothing salvageable in their relationship at this point. I'm not sure why she doesn't though.
Too good post. Thank you for this!
Love,
Sakura



I guess what makes RiKara hard to get into initially is because the parent show has produced two couples which are based on the idea of opposites. Shivika and Rumya's idea is all about opposites colliding. Hence the whole "takkar ki ishqbaazi". Omkara was promised the same. Ishaana didn't take off for whatever reason but whatever...she was supposed to be the Lie to Omkara's Truth. Now Omkara's priority is no longer just Truth. Sure, he still needs to be taught that some lies are alright when it comes to survival (and woah! Gauri fits that bill as well!) But right now..Omkara is losing his identity. Yes, Omkara is a multi dimensional character and the darkness was always the inherent part of me. But darkness is not a happy place for Omkara. He's too sensitive and emotionally vulnerable. The more he interacts with these people who have ulterior motives, are selfish, and who don't care about the consequences as long as they get what they want...the more cynical Omkara becomes. Omkara is at that stage where legit his only smiles comes from his brothers. He isn't even finding solace in his art any more.

And this is precisely what makes me think, does Omkara really need someone equally serious in life? Does he really need one more addition in his life with whom he'll constantly have to battle? What kind of twisted and tumultuous life would that be where easy peace would be so scarce?

It's not like Gauri is a ditzy female who has no basic common sense. Just because she has a chirpier outlook towards life doesn't make her an insensible soul. She knows how the world works and how to balance faith and practicality...and if she does it all while saying funny lines in a not-so-posh accent..so what? Since when did these qualities become a standard for being mature? Gauri is Omkara's mirror who can show Omkara just how much he flawed his perception of people is. She is his mirror because she possesses the same qualities as him but unlike him, her ideals haven't been tainted yet. Also, as I said above, she can teach Omkara a thing or two about not judging everyone's situations from the same angle. Omkara saw Svetlana in Gauri and he became so convinced that what he saw was the reality, he managed to miss the truth which was right in front of him.

Gauri can show it all to him and bring him back to the light before he completely loses his identity and breaks up with the very thought of happiness. Not because she wants to prove a point that she's right and he's wrong. But because she NEEDS him to be happy. She's such a compassionate soul that she risked her own neck to save his life and back then he was a stranger to him. But now she feels she is bound to him (wo maane na maane alag qissa hai) so she NEEDS him to be happy. She's the one person in life who doesn't want anything from Omkara, not acknowledgement nor protection. Which is such a !!!! concept for Omkara that it will be hard for him to accept it at first.

WOAH this became long but I have #FEEELS for these two and I'm not fighting them any more 🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lostmymusic.



I guess what makes RiKara hard to get into initially is because the parent show has produced two couples which are based on the idea of opposites. Shivika and Rumya's idea is all about opposites colliding. Hence the whole "takkar ki ishqbaazi". Omkara was promised the same. Ishaana didn't take off for whatever reason but whatever...she was supposed to be the Lie to Omkara's Truth. Now Omkara's priority is no longer just Truth. Sure, he still needs to be taught that some lies are alright when it comes to survival (and woah! Gauri fits that bill as well!) But right now..Omkara is losing his identity. Yes, Omkara is a multi dimensional character and the darkness was always the inherent part of me. But darkness is not a happy place for Omkara. He's too sensitive and emotionally vulnerable. The more he interacts with these people who have ulterior motives, are selfish, and who don't care about the consequences as long as they get what they want...the more cynical Omkara becomes. Omkara is at that stage where legit his only smiles comes from his brothers. He isn't even finding solace in his art any more.

And this is precisely what makes me think, does Omkara really need someone equally serious in life? Does he really need one more addition in his life with whom he'll constantly have to battle? What kind of twisted and tumultuous life would that be where easy peace would be so scarce?

It's not like Gauri is a ditzy female who has no basic common sense. Just because she has a chirpier outlook towards life doesn't make her an insensible soul. She knows how the world works and how to balance faith and practicality...and if she does it all while saying funny lines in a not-so-posh accent..so what? Since when did these qualities become a standard for being mature? Gauri is Omkara's mirror who can show Omkara just how much he flawed his perception of people is. She is his mirror because she possesses the same qualities as him but unlike him, her ideals haven't been tainted yet. Also, as I said above, she can teach Omkara a thing or two about not judging everyone's situations from the same angle. Omkara saw Svetlana in Gauri and he became so convinced that what he saw was the reality, he managed to miss the truth which was right in front of him.

Gauri can show it all to him and bring him back to the light before he completely loses his identity and breaks up with the very thought of happiness. Not because she wants to prove a point that she's right and he's wrong. But because she NEEDS him to be happy. She's such a compassionate soul that she risked her own neck to save his life and back then he was a stranger to him. But now she feels she is bound to him (wo maane na maane alag qissa hai) so she NEEDS him to be happy. She's the one person in life who doesn't want anything from Omkara, not acknowledgement nor protection. Which is such a !!!! concept for Omkara that it will be hard for him to accept it at first.

WOAH this became long but I have #FEEELS for these two and I'm not fighting them any more 🤣


Couldn't have said it better myself!!! I guess everyone is having a hard time getting used to this concept.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Mais...oopss...SurBinSajaan 😆

I agree!! I completely forgot to mention this whole Jhanvi mess...why does this woman not want to run at the speed of a jaguar out Teju's life is beyond me 😲 If it was me, I would not only divorce Teju, but would also sue him for all of his money and then plant smear articles in the media on him too 😆 and will burn down every article of personal possession he owns...😈


But why doesnt she leave? o,O what is holding her back...Is it just the patriarchal society and internalized misogyny? or is it because, as feared/rumored (reference to the parent show) Om is actually just Tej's son and she legally has no claim on him...and doesnt want to loose him...than at the same time, Om is a grownass man O.o Tej cant keep him away from Jhanvi no matter if they are biologically related or not...o.O

Is it just because she has invested everything she has to give in this relationship and cant bear to loose it...Her career, her emotions, her self respect, her soul, her fighting spirit...now she is just a shell of a woman... a shadow clinging to a wall of this relationship...o.O


About Om/Gauri...beautiful thoughts...loved reading them <3
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Originally posted by: devilsadvocate

Mais...oopss...SurBinSajaan 😆

I agree!! I completely forgot to mention this whole Jhanvi mess...why does this woman not want to run at the speed of a jaguar out Teju's life is beyond me 😲 If it was me, I would not only divorce Teju, but would also sue him for all of his money and then plant smear articles in the media on him too 😆 and will burn down every article of personal possession he owns...😈


But why doesnt she leave? o,O what is holding her back...Is it just the patriarchal society and internalized misogyny? or is it because, as feared/rumored (reference to the parent show) Om is actually just Tej's son and she legally has no claim on him...and doesnt want to loose him...than at the same time, Om is a grownass man O.o Tej cant keep him away from Jhanvi no matter if they are biologically related or not...o.O

Is it just because she has invested everything she has to give in this relationship and cant bear to loose it...Her career, her emotions, her self respect, her soul, her fighting spirit...now she is just a shell of a woman... a shadow clinging to a wall of this relationship...o.O


About Om/Gauri...beautiful thoughts...loved reading them <3



SurBinSajaan? 🤣 Ek hi naam ko kitne naam dogi DeViJee xD

Jhanvi is a mystery and deserves some major exploration as a character. Instead we get Svetlana acting like a scientist/witch -_- Chalo even if Omkara isn't Jhanvi's son, I don't think it will take anything away from what Omkara feels for her. From day1 of the parent show, the things that were firmly established about Omkara were 1) he loves his brothers and 2) he loves his mother. And if he lets his Sach Ka Pujari philosophy get in the way of not immediately accepting Jhanvi as his mother, in case she isn't the biological one, then dhud fitte mooh! 😡

(also omg this could totally happen because Gauri's mom isn't her biological mother but that doesn't stop Gauri from loving/worshipping her. one more connection point between RiKara?)

I don't know what Jhanvi sees in Tej. This present Tej who wants nothing to do with her. Is it because she has made her life in OM that she doesn't want to leave it? The whole "iss age mein kahan jaoungi?" It's not like she is poor..pretty sure the divorce settlement would give her bank balance a sweet boost. I can't even say much because I don't know Jhanvi as a character. But I DO know that Svetlana might possibly be a witch 😃

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