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Posted: 8 years ago
A characteristically rational and persuasive response to my comments, Lashykanna, both those addressed to you and those meant for Sandhya.

I agree with you about the inarticulateness part. It would not have been like Akbar at all to have made such an eloquent,moving speech! Maybe a toned down version, retaining the substance? Not even that? Fine, you are the boss!

The canal part too, OK!

I do not know about the marriage part. Yes, such marriages did take place then and earlier, but those were at a much higher social level. Socially, Akbar is a nobody, at least so far as one knows as yet, and it will stay that way unless he can suddenly prove that he too is an aristocrat, even if a dispossessed one. Heera would have been ostracised by her whole community.

Nor can one theorise about a 'no Parnagarh' situation for their relationship. Parnagarh IS there, like the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and it cannot be wished away. Heera might want to never marry anyone else, but that would not work in the Parnagarh context, for unless she does something effective, and fast, there will soon be no Parnagarh left to protect.

All this said, my dear, I have now come to realise something that should have struck me much earlier, as it struck Zhanna. This is your tale, and these are your characters. It is pointless for me to get involved with them beyond a point, and to invest so much emotional energy, not to speak of physical effort, which is always a strain for me these days, in them. They are airy nothings, to whom you have, in proper Shakespearian fashion, given a local habitation and a name. Or names. It is silly of me - and at my age, when I should know better! - to treat them like real people and fret over their doings and non-doings. It does me no good in the first place!

If I had realised this a few days earlier, I would not have lamented with such impassioned eloquence over Heera's state of mind in the immediate future. After reading your Chapter 14, I see that most of what I wrote about her likely reaction was misplaced. She seems to have no ego at all, and she does not even blame Akbar for his behaviour. So I have, from now on, done with agonising over her.

Or over anything else in your tale, for that matter. I will of course let you know what I liked about your future chapters, and I am sure there will be a lot of that!

Shyamala Periyamma

Originally posted by: lashy

@ Periyamma...

I loved your comparative description of 'heartbreak' 🤗
I will add more points as I think of it..
But I just wanted to get to the three points raised here...

First, how you wished Akbar had spoken -

Now imagine a Jalal... imagine a Chandra...

Jalal would have the 'diplomacy' to be able to speak the lines that you have written so eloquently... but would Chandra would be able to do so? I doubt. He is a recluse. He is socially awkward. And he has little experience with women. Isn't AMK the same?

When has his conversation lasted beyond a sentence... say, even with the person he is most comfortable with like Chacha jaan? He has always been to-the-point, curt, businesslike. Even in delicate matters. He is not deliberately rude, but he is incapable of being better with words than he is now simply because he hasn't grown up with women (a little more of why this is so, in chapter 21) ... and even now he never puts himself in the company of them/or deals with them unless he has to

He wanted Heera to leave without looking back - and this was the only way he knew how to do it... using her own 'ego' as a weapon...

Different readers have had different viewpoints about the breakup Periyamma... I find it's normal for you to find yourself unable to forgive Akbar at this point because you're so attached to Heera... and we get protective of our womenfolk... get angry with the men who hurt them (even if the men had their own reasons to do so)

I would hazard a guess and say that you wouldn't feel the same had Chandra had to do this to Nandini for the sake of his ambitions... why, even in Mahendar's case, you understood his ploys of pretending-to-be-in-love-with-Durga for the sake Parnagarh/Hindu supremacy (till you got to know of Khalil connection, of course)

But with Heera, it's difficult to see the same happen to her... because that's how she is!

As for the second bit...
Yes, they both always put their duty first... and with the current issues of Parnagarh/Shehzaade complicating everything, it's dangerous for this to go any further... but had circumstances been different, I can foresee AMK/Heera at least giving their future a try... why not? The alternative for both of them is to lead single lives forever... which is ok for him... but for her?
And it is to see how far he was invested in this 'unnamed relationship' that she went to meet him... she would have been ready to wait for years and years (if that's how long it took for their issues to iron out) if only he had given her a 'glimmer' of hope that he would give their relationship a name thereafter...
She went with the hope of 'maybe one day' in her mind... and came back with nothing.


I'm not saying a marriage would be easy - far from it. And surely it will give rise to scandal amongst her people - other Hindu kingdoms/her own folk would frown upon her... but riots/honour killings/forced marriages or more violent implications (like those that would have happened in other families) cannot be a problem in this case. Simply because, at the end of the day, they BOTH have a very peculiar advantage now - they have no one to question them really. He is the lone leader of his haveli/business/clan/people... she is the lone leader of her clan (other than her guardians, who could disown her at the most). And right from Akbar's era it was uncommon, but not unheard of, for Hindu daughters to be wed into Muslim families for the sake of peace.
Of course Periyamma... there is the norm and there are exceptions in every generation - this story would also have at least a few exceptions (within reason, of course) 😳

As for the canal scene - those who arrived at the canal were Gauri/Azeez/Sayyid/Ibrahim... the men respect them both too much to spread scandal. And Gauri respects Heera too much to say anything wrong.

Moreover, while Heera comes from a traditional family - both sisters (encouraged by their fathers) have also been forward thinkers... she is a doctor... despite following the veil system, she has touched and treated men before (of course purely for medical reasons only - e.g. Mohan/Daya)

And when it became obvious to these 4 who'd arrived there, that had she not jumped in right then Akbar would definitely have not been alive, they recognised it as a life-saving act... something that is accepted even in strict cultures... Just like if a noble lady was drowning, and there were no women around, chances are it would've been her guards or other men jumping in to bring her ashore, though in normal circumstances they wouldn't be allowed to touch her.

Of course, Gauri wished it didn't have to happen this way, but beyond that she can say nothing else... and she knows nothing else of what happened - same for the rest of them.

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Thank you so much, my dear Zhanna, for that much needed moral support!😉 As you would have seen, Lashy has shot down my alternative take out of hand, and so it has died an early death. But I still would prefer it any day to Lashy's version.

In the process, however, I have imbibed some much needed wisdom from you. I was never poetic, but from now on, I am never going to get passionate and agitated about anything or anyone in this tale. It is pointless!

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: alffim

Dear Shyamala!
I recognize, of course, the exclusive right of Lashy on all the actions of her characters (but how many I want peace and love?! 😳 "Honor of a madman who evokes humanity golden dream!" (c))
But take my great admiration for your passionate and poetic protest! 👏👏👏
And I completely agree with you ... 😃




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Periyamma I am sorry if I have offended you in any way... that wasn't my intent at all...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

A characteristically rational and persuasive response to my comments, Lashykanna, both those addressed to you and those meant for Sandhya.

I agree with you about the inarticulateness part. It would not have been like Akbar at all to have made such an eloquent,moving speech! Maybe a toned down version, retaining the substance? Not even that? Fine, you are the boss!

The canal part too, OK!

I do not know about the marriage part. Yes, such marriages did take place then and earlier, but those were at a much higher social level. Socially, Akbar is a nobody, at least so far as one knows as yet, and it will stay that way unless he can suddenly prove that he too is an aristocrat, even if a dispossessed one. Heera would have been ostracised by her whole community.

Yes... you are right here...

Nor can one theorise about a 'no Parnagarh' situation for their relationship. Parnagarh IS there, like the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and it cannot be wished away. Heera might want to never marry anyone else, but that would not work in the Parnagarh context, for unless she does something effective, and fast, there will soon be no Parnagarh left to protect.

All this said, my dear, I have now come to realise something that should have struck me much earlier, as it struck Zhanna. This is your tale, and these are your characters. It is pointless for me to get involved with them beyond a point, and to invest so much emotional energy, not to speak of physical effort, which is always a strain for me these days, in them. They are airy nothings, to whom you have, in proper Shakespearian fashion, given a local habitation and a name. Or names. It is silly of me - and at my age, when I should know better! - to treat them like real people and fret over their doings and non-doings. It does me no good in the first place!

But I thought that was the beauty of a good story or a serial or a movie... that it draws the audiences in and makes us feel like they're part of us... that is the strength of story telling, right? If we get attached to them, we enjoy their journey far more... we enjoy the end far more... and same is the case generally for everyone... isn't it, periyamma?
And everyone enjoys your analysis... but you sound suddenly upset about this Periyamma... I am sorry if it is something I said/did...

When you used to say that you loved the characters/feel for them so much, it used to keep me on a high... now I feel like I've crash landed when you called them airy nothings 😭

But, I agree with the fact that you must not strain your hands... please take care of yourself first 🤗

If I had realised this a few days earlier, I would not have lamented with such impassioned eloquence over Heera's state of mind in the immediate future. After reading your Chapter 14, I see that most of what I wrote about her likely reaction was misplaced. She seems to have no ego at all, and she does not even blame Akbar for his behaviour. So I have, from now on, done with agonising over her.

Do you mean chapter 20? Periyamma let the story unfold to see how it goes... it's only a brief insight into her state of mind...
She is angry with him, angry with herself. She is bitter... her ego is constantly taunting her... yes, she wished she could dislike him more (which is a reference to the fact that she blames him - but at this point, everything that'd happened was still not crystal clear... she's still in a haze...)...

but as you've described about the state of her heart - even as a broken heart, she is more capable of love than she is of bitterness/hatred... and she is only 16...
Plus, there is much happening around her...


Or over anything else in your tale, for that matter. I will of course let you know what I liked about your future chapters, and I am sure there will be a lot of that!

Shyamala Periyamma
🤗 I hope you feel better soon Periyamma... and whether you write or not, I sincerely wish you continue to love the characters as you have been

Edited by lashy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you so much, my dear Zhanna, for that much needed moral support!😉 As you would have seen, Lashy has shot down my alternative take out of hand, and so it has died an early death. But I still would prefer it any day to Lashy's version.

In the process, however, I have imbibed some much needed wisdom from you. I was never poetic, but from now on, I am never going to get passionate and agitated about anything or anyone in this tale. It is pointless!

Shyamala Di

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Dearest Lashykanna,

I have a bad cold and all I want to do now is to go to bed, for all that my Chandra Nandini post, due out yesterday, is not done as yet. But I see that you are carrying on as usual, weeping all over the page and wondering if you have offended me in any way, so I needed to set that right first.

I have told you times without number than you could not offend or upset me even if you tried, but that does not seem to penetrate your consciousness.So please consider it reiterated once again.

Now as to what had upset me, it was your characters. What I wrote is absolutely correct, one should not get involved with fictional characters beyond a point, and the stress on the last 3 words is deliberate. Normally, I don't do that, no matter how fond I am of them, as was the case with Jalal.

But your Heera was the exception, and the extent to which I got wrapped up in her was not funny. It was also a mistake. That I was furious with Akbar was a direct consequence of my excessive emotional involvement with Heera.

I do not look thru your threads, but I dare say no one else there reacted towards Akbar as I did. They all said, most likely, that what he did as the best possible choice for him, to make sure she left and stayed away. Very few, perhaps no one, might have even touched on what kind of impact this kind of brush off would have on a girl in Heera's position.

But that - the loss of her self respect, the sense of humiliation, of having been led on and then dumped - was the first thing that occurred to me, and I was more unhappy for her than I can remember being for any airy nothing that I have ever encountered. And yes, my dear, Shakespeare called them airy nothings, and that is what fictional characters all are, brought to life by the writer's skill.

If I had been in Heera's place, I would have been furious with Akbar for what looked like nothing but two timing me, and would have tried my level best to banish all thoughts of this deceitful man from my mind. My sense of self respect would have ensured that.

I would not have been dreaming of the sandalwood perfume he used and telling myself that part of me was lost to him. I cannot relate to this Heera at all. Please don't trot out that 16 year old mantra again; at 16, in those days, most girls would have been married off and would have had a baby to boot. She is not a 16 year old in 2016. And what more crystal clarity does she want? Where is her pride? I am not talking of hatred, or even bitterness, only of pride that would stiffen her spine.

Anyhow, after seeing how she was going on, I felt like a fool for all the wasted anger and empathy I had expended on behalf of this hopelessly lovelorn young female. It was not your fault, she is your character, to be shaped the way you want her to be. But she is not my idea of how a self-respecting girl in that situation would behave.

Nor can I understand this definition of chastity - a man touches you, so you are bound to him for life? And if you have the misfortune to fall in love with a deceitful man - which is what any rational girl would now think of Akbar - then you give up on marriage for keeps, is it? I cannot relate to any of this either.

Now, I am telling you all this not to critique your story, only to explain why I am exasperated with your lead pair right now. Which, incidentally, is my fault in the first place, for getting too involved with your Heera.

And I am stating all this because you are going off in the wrong direction about it. My saying this is not going to make any difference to your script, to what has come or to what is to come. In any case, out of, say, a hundred who love your story as it is, I am sure to be the only dissenting voice in this instance, and so it hardly matters what I think.

I love your writing, Lashykanna, and I loved your Heera beyond anything I can remember feeling for any heroine I have encountered. After reading your chapter 20, it was I who felt as if I had crash landed, for she was suddenly like any other girl besotted with a man.

Still, maybe I will come back to caring as much as before for her again, in due course, thanks to your skill as a writer. I hope so.

I do not know if you will understand what I have been trying to convey. I hope so for that as well.

Affectionately,

Shyamala Periyamma


Originally posted by: lashy

Periyamma I am sorry if I have offended you in any way... that wasn't my intent at all...

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam


If I had been in Heera's place, I would have been furious with Akbar for what looked like nothing but two timing me, and would have tried my level best to banish all thoughts of this deceitful man from my mind. My sense of self respect would have ensured that.

I would not have been dreaming of the sandalwood perfume he used and telling myself that part of me was lost to him. I cannot relate to this Heera at all. Please don't trot out that 16 year old mantra again; at 16, in those days, most girls would have been married off and would have had a baby to boot. She is not a 16 year old in 2016. And what more crystal clarity does she want? Where is her pride? I am not talking of hatred, or even bitterness, only of pride that would stiffen her spine.

Anyhow, after seeing how she was going on, I felt like a fool for all the wasted anger and empathy I had expended on behalf of this hopelessly lovelorn young female. It was not your fault, she is your character, to be shaped the way you want her to be. But she is not my idea of how a self-respecting girl in that situation would behave.

Nor can I understand this definition of chastity - a man touches you, so you are bound to him for life? And if you have the misfortune to fall in love with a deceitful man - which is what any rational girl would now think of Akbar - then you give up on marriage for keeps, is it? I cannot relate to any of this either.


But Periyamma... 10 different strong women would behave in 10 different ways in a situation like this... even if their end goal is 'coming out of it.'

We have far more exposure today, have people guiding us and telling us. People we can talk/confide in. Heera is almost self-grown, self-made. While she might have had to shoulder responsibilities at 16, we cannot expect her to possess the mental maturity of a 25-30 year old. And even a 25-30 year old today would take her time to come out of something like this. The kind of reactions you are expecting would come, Periyamma, a few months down the line. Now, barely 5-6 days have passed since the incident.😳

And yes, she is angry with him - but doesn't mean she wasn't invested in this relationship. She was, from her end - which cannot be changed. She saw in him something she'd seen in no one else, and at the lowest point in her life, she fell in love with him. From which, she would need time to recover.

But because of her stature, she doesn't show any of this outside. That's the difference. She does have pride which is why she didn't go on and on, in front of him then. She has decency which is why she didn't gossip ill about him with Gauri after the farewell either. She doesn't show her grief in front of anyone and even while alone now, she is not wallowing in tears (and with almost bitter disappointment realises that she has learnt to become two-faced like him) She isn't actually and willingly dreaming about Sandalwood fragrances either... they are reminders... reminders that come instinctively. She is lovelorn - there is no refuting that fact. And she is lost & confused - yet still, she's trying to keep a brave face.

How can someone as gentle-natured as her, behave any stronger than this, in the circumstances she is now facing? That too, so immediately? It would almost be like someone else... not Heera.

As for the touch, if he had grabbed or touched her against her wish, it was different. She was part of it too even if it only lasted a moment. She was attracted to him, and she felt impassioned by his touch. She hugged him too. How can a 17th c woman act like this was only part of an act, brush it off with anger, and go on to live with another man? 😕 Even in this generation, many wouldn't be able to do it...

I understand you are upset with the characters Periyamma... and I am not trying to nag by dragging this... in fact, I didn't want to continue the point, because I didn't want you to strain yourself ... but then, I was wondering if her stance wasn't clear in the update and so wanted to put it across.
But please take care of yourself - and hope you get better soon...🤗

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Dear di,

@ blue I share my thought what I go through.



But your Heera was the exception, and the extent to which I got wrapped up in her was not funny. It was also a mistake. That I was furious with Akbar was a direct consequence of my excessive emotional involvement with Heera.
Many of us got attached with her as we want to saw powerful but not a ill mannered girl.

I do not look thru your threads, but I dare say no one else there reacted towards Akbar as I did. They all said, most likely, that what he did as the best possible choice for him, to make sure she left and stayed away
yes, I too not write that to lashy and I tell you why . at first I feel the same anger that how can he talk to her or denied the truth but his one thought that he knows she will never move in her life he tried with strong words, hurting her ego by refusing her , so, may be she settle in her life by forgoting him. he pull the last string of hope by asking sorry.
here I convinced by his aim to she move on, his long sight what happens to her if he die. who will protect his wife from enemy like Khalil and his first feeling and determination is to protect her. he betrayed her and I called him betrayer but in this situation one of them we must call lovelorn or lovestuck puppy. what he thought of life long they have to run from shahzade, fight with enemy and all that was practicle and he knows very well about all that and for the very reason he keep himself away from woman. He strongly thought at the end of 18 that he will name their feelings but leave like this and gave stressful life to our partner is impractical for me so I feel its realistic.




. Very few, perhaps no one, might have even touched on what kind of impact this kind of brush off would have on a girl in Heera's position.
feels hatred towards him and it was too painful and its still pinching. without knowing the reason and what happens is not her fault also. what I like about her is she didn't try to tell him or please him and silently put her wail on her face that told him he is a stranger to her too. her anger, her self esteem that she not saw him how broken she is and in last chappy 20 she to fight with mind and heart, felt anger for him and for herself too. but not able to keep out her mind on instant. she loved him wholeheartedly and its not depend on others reciprocation so I feel she is try to settle her feelings but what I like is she didn't cry or even share her feeling with anyone that more people know about it and more humiliation. she done everything needed what is her duty.

But that - the loss of her self respect, the sense of humiliation, of having been led on and then dumped - was the first thing that occurred to me, and I was more unhappy for her than I can remember being for any airy nothing that I have ever encountered. And yes, my dear, Shakespeare called them airy nothings, and that is what fictional characters all are, brought to life by the writer's skill.

If I had been in Heera's place, I would have been furious with Akbar for what looked like nothing but two timing me, and would have tried my level best to banish all thoughts of this deceitful man from my mind. My sense of self respect would have ensured that.

I would not have been dreaming of the sandalwood perfume he used and telling myself that part of me was lost to him. I cannot relate to this Heera at all. Please don't trot out that 16 year old mantra again; at 16, in those days, most girls would have been married off and would have had a baby to boot. She is not a 16 year old in 2016.
Agree on their maturity.



Nor can I understand this definition of chastity - a man touches you, so you are bound to him for life?
No, its not needed in my thought if its a mind set of that era also but she thought of that because before the canal scan she accept her love and feels herself as HIS. that's why she wants to know did he feel ting of pain of her to leave or any spark in his eye when she meet him personally because he was always poised, business alike person so she count on him and now she knows what they both convey each other silently. so, she don't want marry other person and with mahender other reason is also their which we can guess only for now. before living she only want his acknowledgment of his feelings so she can wait up to right time but then I thought of his truth to be reveal how she feel as wife of that man.

Now, I am telling you all this not to critique your story, only to explain why I am exasperated with your lead pair right now. Which, incidentally, is my fault in the first place, for getting too involved with your Heera.

And I am stating all this because you are going off in the wrong direction about it. My saying this is not going to make any difference to your script, to what has come or to what is to come. In any case, out of, say, a hundred who love your story as it is, I am sure to be the only dissenting voice in this instance, and so it hardly matters what I think.

I love your writing, Lashykanna, and I loved your Heera beyond anything I can remember feeling for any heroine I have encountered. After reading your chapter 20, it was I who felt as if I had crash landed, for she was suddenly like any other girl besotted with a man.

Still, maybe I will come back to caring as much as before for her again, in due course, thanks to your skill as a writer. I hope so.

I do not know if you will understand what I have been trying to convey. I hope so for that as well.

Affectionately,

Shyamala Periyamma


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Lashykanna,

I simply cannot keep up with this round robin exercise, especially physically. I am writing this only to make sure you don't think, again, that I am upset with you. I am not.

Moreover, I have got over my unusual fit of irritation, more with your Heera even than with Akbar, enough to be able to laugh at myself and my goings on. I ought to have had more maturity, at my age, than to react so sharply to Heera falling below the benchmark I had set for her. I am really sorry that I harassed you like this, my poor dear girl!

This said, I am afraid your eloquent explanations do not really convince me. The line in blue, in particular, quite took my breath away. A 2016 girl to decide not to marry at all because

(a) a guy embraced her in the middle of a canal
(b) she embraced him, or sort of, in return and
(c) the next day the guy denied any knowledge of these romantic goings on and bid her a fairly abrupt farewell?

This in an era of live in relationships, one night stands galore and still more lurid goings on? Oh, there are still really well behaved young ladies around, I do not doubt that, but this .. I am lost for words.. naive, old-fashioned? Whatever.

As for How can a 17th c woman act like this was only part of an act, brush it off with anger, and go on to live with another man? 😕, the question is Whose act?

Surely not hers. So, does she think Akbar was putting on an act in the canal? If so, she ought to be very angry with him. If she does not think so, how does she explain to herself not just his denial of the canal encounter, but also of the many earlier instances of some sort of special understanding between them? Lashykanna, an intelligent girl like Heera has to think these things thru, and that would hardly take a lot of time! She has had days on end on the way to Bansi.

Also in any such situation, if there is to be anger, it comes first thing, in a roaring torrent. Not after 6 months.

But as I said, if your Heera is "like that only", so be it!

OK, this is it from me on this vital topic, and I am not going into it any more. Finis. If you want to have one more go at it, please feel free to do so!😉It is clear to me from your response that you did not get what I was trying to put across. Never mind.

Methinks you are so involved with, so invested in your characters, that you cannot bear any criticism of your leads. It is probably a very natural reaction, for after all, they are your creations, the children of your imagination. But the result of this is that you have to explain away any and all criticism, instead of just letting the reader be! In the process, you are standing the salesman's maxim The customer is always right, on its head.😉 You would make an energetic defence counsel, my pet, but you would not, I am afraid, make a good diplomat!

Shyamala Periyamma


Originally posted by: lashy


But Periyamma... 10 different strong women would behave in 10 different ways in a situation like this... even if their end goal is 'coming out of it.'

We have far more exposure today, have people guiding us and telling us. People we can talk/confide in. Heera is almost self-grown, self-made. While she might have had to shoulder responsibilities at 16, we cannot expect her to possess the mental maturity of a 25-30 year old. And even a 25-30 year old today would take her time to come out of something like this. The kind of reactions you are expecting would come, Periyamma, a few months down the line. Now, barely 5-6 days have passed since the incident.😳

And yes, she is angry with him - but doesn't mean she wasn't invested in this relationship. She was, from her end - which cannot be changed. She saw in him something she'd seen in no one else, and at the lowest point in her life, she fell in love with him. From which, she would need time to recover.

But because of her stature, she doesn't show any of this outside. That's the difference. She does have pride which is why she didn't go on and on, in front of him then. She has decency which is why she didn't gossip ill about him with Gauri after the farewell either. She doesn't show her grief in front of anyone and even while alone now, she is not wallowing in tears (and with almost bitter disappointment realises that she has learnt to become two-faced like him) She isn't actually and willingly dreaming about Sandalwood fragrances either... they are reminders... reminders that come instinctively. She is lovelorn - there is no refuting that fact. And she is lost & confused - yet still, she's trying to keep a brave face.

How can someone as gentle-natured as her, behave any stronger than this, in the circumstances she is now facing? That too, so immediately? It would almost be like someone else... not Heera.

As for the touch, if he had grabbed or touched her against her wish, it was different. She was part of it too even if it only lasted a moment. She was attracted to him, and she felt impassioned by his touch. She hugged him too. How can a 17th c woman act like this was only part of an act, brush it off with anger, and go on to live with another man? 😕 Even in this generation, many wouldn't be able to do it...

I understand you are upset with the characters Periyamma... and I am not trying to nag by dragging this... in fact, I didn't want to continue the point, because I didn't want you to strain yourself ... but then, I was wondering if her stance wasn't clear in the update and so wanted to put it across.
But please take care of yourself - and hope you get better soon...🤗


Originally posted by: sashashyam


If I had been in Heera's place, I would have been furious with Akbar for what looked like nothing but two timing me, and would have tried my level best to banish all thoughts of this deceitful man from my mind. My sense of self respect would have ensured that.

I would not have been dreaming of the sandalwood perfume he used and telling myself that part of me was lost to him. I cannot relate to this Heera at all. Please don't trot out that 16 year old mantra again; at 16, in those days, most girls would have been married off and would have had a baby to boot. She is not a 16 year old in 2016. And what more crystal clarity does she want? Where is her pride? I am not talking of hatred, or even bitterness, only of pride that would stiffen her spine.

Anyhow, after seeing how she was going on, I felt like a fool for all the wasted anger and empathy I had expended on behalf of this hopelessly lovelorn young female. It was not your fault, she is your character, to be shaped the way you want her to be. But she is not my idea of how a self-respecting girl in that situation would behave.

Nor can I understand this definition of chastity - a man touches you, so you are bound to him for life? And if you have the misfortune to fall in love with a deceitful man - which is what any rational girl would now think of Akbar - then you give up on marriage for keeps, is it? I cannot relate to any of this either.

Edited by sashashyam - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
It's painful chappy di but still I love it
Akbar is right what he think after getting back into senses And recovery but still Why he can't understand it's he who can protect her and that intimacy is everything for heera we get Akbar think about marriage I knew it's momentary
Heera came with so much hopes and answers bit adamant Akbar just act like nothing is between them and nothing happened
Alas when Akbar just want heera to left asap and according to him nothing has happened and he remembered nothing heera got his point and his cold behavior shattered her already shattered heart
Finally she left with her left dignity And self respect
Akbar did right and wrong
His and chachajaan convo over him and heera really good Akbar adamant not to accept this happiness just for heera safety when chacha said heera will be happy with some other one Akbar although said it will be good for her but still felt like chocking that person
Oh no he got Everything to Enter heera house Now what will happen hope he don't get that farman
Heera still can't believe what happened why Akbar act like that but alas now she left with lose of another dear one after her jiji
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