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Posted: 9 years ago
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hii iam relatively new here and been a bit of a wallflower a silent reader but this topic that Iam gonna discuss is quite close to me if anyone here has seen pink movie they will be quite familiar with it.
vividha saying no to atharva for marriage almost defiantly in front of her family why? because she needed time is that so wrong, no its not and she knows it too hence the confidence that atharva would understand that comes only with immense trust that mera banda samjegha. Iam greatful the cvs have shown this because when a girl says no then 90% of the time it is no only, which TV rarely portrays. Forced things are termed to be romanticized unfortunately that na na karte pyare tumse kar bhaite thingie is old school. Iam glad vividha had the courage to say no even if she loves him thats real empowerment.

now coming onto atharva initially it was shown he woos vividha but never stalks her, questions her but never forces her, changes her but accepts her as she is too. Even yesterday he knew he would be turned down but he risks it making his girl come to terms with the past which he himself doesnt understand fully but for him "no" doesnt bring rage it brings insecurity cuz i have seen many times when the girl says no then that means yes its portrayed by every serial in a loop but for him its his love no matter the cost he will listen to her even if its no. He wont make her feel guilty over it but stand with her understanding her. #aslimard

I kept on thinking how can a mere TV character be soo real with the flaws and all there must be something but time and again this character has proved its mettle and I felt that connection during ang laga de sequence the way he accepts vividha's no was so beautifully portrayed man i fell in love more than actually possible because women empowerment for me is not just a soch its a movement a constant fight.
A shout out to mamta ji mam if you are reading this i will be ever greatfull to you for the conception of such a character as atharva.

concluding by this
ki agar tumhara banda atharva jaisa soch na rakhta ho toh vo tumhare kabil nahin. be brave. fight for yourself.
"dont teach your girls what to wear teach your boys not to stare"

thankyou for putting up with my ramblings.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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HIs one dialogue, that 'You love me, you just dont know it yet' That he said in phase 1, spells to me what he is... that kinda of lover is not right.
In phase 1, Vividha so many times said no, yet he kept challenging her father that he will get engaged to her at any cost. Even Sujata accepted this in the Diwali episode, that, 'he announced his marriage with a girl, who didnt even reciprocate his feelings at that time'

So i dont understand how he understand No means No.

Another thing, this Man talks about a woman's right and freedom to make her own life's decision. Yet he never let his own mother peacefully love her lover / husband. No matter how wrong or coward RK is, but it was her choice to love him despite all his short-comings. But every time that she even tried a do a mere pooja in his name, Atharva would create a ruckus, scream at her and walk away in anger, there by ruining her peace. I dont know how then he allowed his mother the freedom to love her own husband.

This Guy himself had told Vividha that if something happens to him, she should move on. Yet, the moment he heard of her marriage. He accused her of cheap things, of enjoying a physical relationship with her husband, despite knowing he was also living in the same house. He even accused her of being a gold digger.

Yesterday, the moment he heard the name Ravish on her mouth, he immediately got insecure and pouted like a girl, till she told him that she wasnt speaking to Ravish but his mother.

I dont understand what nayee soch this character is showing. Whatever it is, is just in preach, but zero in action.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Is there any wonder why Atharv Sujata is loved so much? He is one of a kind!

He KNEW vividha loved him but was suppressing her desires and that's exactly what he doesn't want! He wants her to be free of shackles, free of any suppression. He gives her wings and that's why Vividha is herself with him.

It's no mystery why Vividha's life begins and ends with him. He makes her feel alive!

Lovely topic :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey welcome to the forum.
By reading your post it seems you went through a rough patch in your life... assuming it as the post is really deep with your own connection.

Definitely agree with you. Atharv is a true gentleman... who understands the word NO.

Sorry I don't have the time to post something good as I'm going clubbing. Will comment in the morning.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjs

HIs one dialogue, that 'You love me, you just dont know it yet' That he said in phase 1, spells to me what he is... that kinda of lover is not right.

In phase 1, Vividha so many times said no, yet he kept challenging her father that he will get engaged to her at any cost. Even Sujata accepted this in the Diwali episode, that, 'he announced his marriage with a girl, who didnt even reciprocate his feelings at that time'

So i dont understand how he understand No means No.

Another thing, this Man talks about a woman's right and freedom to make her own life's decision. Yet he never let his own mother peacefully love her lover / husband. No matter how wrong or coward RK is, but it was her choice to love him despite all his short-comings. But every time that she even tried a do a mere pooja in his name, Atharva would create a ruckus, scream at her and walk away in anger, there by ruining her peace. I dont know how then he allowed his mother the freedom to love her own husband.

This Guy himself had told Vividha that if something happens to him, she should move on. Yet, the moment he heard of her marriage. He accused her of cheap things, of enjoying a physical relationship with her husband, despite knowing he was also living in the same house. He even accused her of being a gold digger.

Yesterday, the moment he heard the name Ravish on her mouth, he immediately got insecure and pouted like a girl, till she told him that she wasnt speaking to Ravish but his mother.

I dont understand what nayee soch this character is showing. Whatever it is, is just in preach, but zero in action.



I get where u r coming from. But you actually missed a stmt by ATharv where he clearly said - "Agar mujhe ye lagta ki aap mujhse pyar nahi karti toh mei kabhi bhi aapke peeche nahi aata" .

Atharv was sure of the fact that VV loves him. She kept visiting the tabela often in in the context of meeting Payal. She kept coming to his house by making reasons. Athrv was sure Vividha liked him. She pleaded her dad to save Atharv more than once. Her father even went insecure seeing VV's love for Atharv. But Atharv also knew she is suppressing her feelings as she is always dependant on her father's approval. She wanted her to think on her own and take her decision and not based on her father's feelings. And thats what he did. Even after VV proposed him he didnt accept but waited till he was sure she is thinking from her own individuality and not a forced opinion. That is where he empowered her.


Secondly, he is portrayed to be very angry on his father and thr is a reason cus he left them all. If u remember the puja scene when VV scolds Atharv to let his mom do the puja.. Thats when he learns tht he shouldn't interfere in her faith and post tht he never questions. So Atharv is flawed but he learns from his flaws.

Like I said he is not Mahaan . Atharv's 6th vachan asking Vivi to move on was 'if something hapnd to him(death)' but he was in front of her eyes and still he felt she moved on. So obviously he is angry on her

Of course he is insecure abt Vivi Ravish but he isn't forcing his opinion on her. Instead he asks her clearly as to what she wants. R u telling me ppl shouldn't even react to news? Normal human beings react to stimulus 🤣

Atharv is the first amazing character on TV. If you do not agree to my post its ok. Just gave a try to clear few things
Edited by cool_kriti - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjs

HIs one dialogue, that 'You love me, you just dont know it yet' That he said in phase 1, spells to me what he is... that kinda of lover is not right.

In phase 1, Vividha so many times said no, yet he kept challenging her father that he will get engaged to her at any cost. Even Sujata accepted this in the Diwali episode, that, 'he announced his marriage with a girl, who didnt even reciprocate his feelings at that time'

So i dont understand how he understand No means No.

Another thing, this Man talks about a woman's right and freedom to make her own life's decision. Yet he never let his own mother peacefully love her lover / husband. No matter how wrong or coward RK is, but it was her choice to love him despite all his short-comings. But every time that she even tried a do a mere pooja in his name, Atharva would create a ruckus, scream at her and walk away in anger, there by ruining her peace. I dont know how then he allowed his mother the freedom to love her own husband.

This Guy himself had told Vividha that if something happens to him, she should move on. Yet, the moment he heard of her marriage. He accused her of cheap things, of enjoying a physical relationship with her husband, despite knowing he was also living in the same house. He even accused her of being a gold digger.

Yesterday, the moment he heard the name Ravish on her mouth, he immediately got insecure and pouted like a girl, till she told him that she wasnt speaking to Ravish but his mother.

I dont understand what nayee soch this character is showing. Whatever it is, is just in preach, but zero in action.


you hit the nail on the head again!!! Well done.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post...its really hard to finda guy lyk atharv who stands by truth whether it hurts or not...even now he wants to know wat vv wants ..if she has fallen for R it may hurt him...but still he wants to face that truth n let her have wat she wants...no wonder vividha cant leave him...which girl will leave a guy lyk atharv sujata who loves u even when u moved on in life with ur husband aftr loving him so deeply...who will let go a man lyk him who blasts wen ur wrong n wen u urself is not wanting ur freedom...a guy who can misunderstand yu blast yu bt the very next moment is ready to fall on yur feet asking forgiveness...
Atharv Sujata is a complete man with his flaws making him more likable to every girl..

Coming to "aap mujhse pyaar karti hoon yeh aap nahi jaanti" wasnt that soo clear at that tym vividha was in love...if she wasnt y she didnt blast him for holding her??
Instead she was lost in his eyes saying nahi karti😆even aftr running through whole ajmer to hug him infront of everyone she didnt accept she loves him😆does that means she didnt love him??

I dont know love for particular character can turn all other character dumb in someone's eyes ...funny..
if Ravish is supporting suman's love for rk is it necessary atharv shud support sujatha's love???then wats difference btwn the two??suman's love for rk gave ravish his name n status in society...but sujata's love for rk gave atharv only the tag illegtimate...he is the victim..il hate him if he didnt hate rk...
Edited by ViTharvforever - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: cool_kriti



I get where u r coming from. But you actually missed a stmt by ATharv where he clearly said - "Agar mujhe ye lagta ki aap mujhse pyar nahi karti toh mei kabhi bhi aapke peeche nahi aata" .

Atharv was sure of the fact that VV loves him. She kept visiting the tabela often in in the context of meeting Payal. She kept coming to his house by making reasons. Athrv was sure Vividha liked him. She pleaded her dad to save Atharv more than once. Her father even went insecure seeing VV's love for Atharv. But Atharv also knew she is suppressing her feelings as she is always dependant on her father's approval. She wanted her to think on her own and take her decision and not based on her father's feelings. And thats what he did. Even after VV proposed him he didnt accept but waited till he was sure she is thinking from her own individuality and not a forced opinion. That is where he empowered her.


Secondly, he is portrayed to be very angry on his father and thr is a reason cus he left them all. If u remember the puja scene when VV scolds Atharv to let his mom do the puja.. Thats when he learns tht he shouldn't interfere in her faith and post tht he never questions. So Atharv is flawed but he learns from his flaws.

Like I said he is not Mahaan . Atharv's 6th vachan asking Vivi to move on was 'if something hapnd to him(death)' but he was in front of her eyes and still he felt she moved on. So obviously he is angry on her

Of course he is insecure abt Vivi Ravish but he isn't forcing his opinion on her. Instead he asks her clearly as to what she wants. R u telling me ppl shouldn't even react to news? Normal human beings react to stimulus🤣

Atharv is the first amazing character on TV. If you do not agree to my post its ok. Just gave a try to clear few things



u said exactly my opinions on the first two parts.

Thirdly i want to ask something -

WOULD ANY SON/DAUGHTER BE HAPPY IF THEIR MOTHER IA DOING THE THING WHICH IS THE SOLE REASON OF ALL THE MISHAPS OR DISRESPECT DONE TO HER?

WOULD YOU NOT WANT YOUR MOTHER TO MOVE ON IN LIFE SO THAT SHE COULD BE HAPPY WHEN THE OTHER PERSON HAS ALREADY MOVED ON?

WOULD YOU WANT YOUR MOTHER TO GET DISRESPECTED EVERYDAY OR EVERY SECOND JUST BECAUSE OF THAT MAN WHO DIDN'T EVEN CARE TO LOOK BACK AND CHECK THEM IF THEY ARE ALRIGHT?

27 YEARS ARE A VERY LONG TIME FOR ALL THESE WOUNDS.

Now coming to the last part i don't think Atharv was insecure when name Ravish was called i think it was more about the fact that he was thinking about Vividha if she had fallen in love qith Ravish and trying to suppress or hide her feelings so that he would not get hurt

P.s: Its all my opinion u r free to disagree.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjs

HIs one dialogue, that 'You love me, you just dont know it yet' That he said in phase 1, spells to me what he is... that kinda of lover is not right.

In phase 1, Vividha so many times said no, yet he kept challenging her father that he will get engaged to her at any cost. Even Sujata accepted this in the Diwali episode, that, 'he announced his marriage with a girl, who didnt even reciprocate his feelings at that time'

So i dont understand how he understand No means No.

Another thing, this Man talks about a woman's right and freedom to make her own life's decision. Yet he never let his own mother peacefully love her lover / husband. No matter how wrong or coward RK is, but it was her choice to love him despite all his short-comings. But every time that she even tried a do a mere pooja in his name, Atharva would create a ruckus, scream at her and walk away in anger, there by ruining her peace. I dont know how then he allowed his mother the freedom to love her own husband.

This Guy himself had told Vividha that if something happens to him, she should move on. Yet, the moment he heard of her marriage. He accused her of cheap things, of enjoying a physical relationship with her husband, despite knowing he was also living in the same house. He even accused her of being a gold digger.

Yesterday, the moment he heard the name Ravish on her mouth, he immediately got insecure and pouted like a girl, till she told him that she wasnt speaking to Ravish but his mother.

I dont understand what nayee soch this character is showing. Whatever it is, is just in preach, but zero in action.





Iam understading where you are coming from but if you had read my explanation then you would have understand my pov without me even explaining it firstly iam not saying atharva has done no wrong
secondly, for me atharva is not a saint who is capable of no wrong but for me he is the epitome of imperfection a realness in TV character which for me is rare
thirdly, yes even i agree he should have consulted with vividha before declaring his love but circumstances made him to declare it publicly and the aftereffects are quite well portrayed the girl refuses again he agrees never STALKS her after that, for him once no is simple no.
fourthly, i dont have a habit of comparing any two character everyone has their individuality hence wont compare the brothers
fifth, and last for me mere liye atharva nayi soch nahin hai magar vo aslimard hain jo apni soch se naye raste banata hain majboor karta hain logon ko apne pichde soch badalne main

thankyou for commenting😊


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Is there any wonder why Atharv Sujata is loved so much? He is one of a kind!

He KNEW vividha loved him but was suppressing her desires and that's exactly what he doesn't want! He wants her to be free of shackles, free of any suppression. He gives her wings and that's why Vividha is herself with him.

It's no mystery why Vividha's life begins and ends with him. He makes her feel alive!

Lovely topic :)


exactly atharva is one of a kind a character which will be remembered even after the serial ends

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