'Not mentally and physically fit...'

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Manu said Bani wasn't mentally and physically fit, when Bani was asked about Om g talking against her mother incident and she replied that as der were many moments she didn't remember which exactly he was referring to. That was such a provocative and degrading statement to make and clearly showed it was Manu's calculative plan to target Bani.
Bani did not get provoked then and when she started answering

In all the hullabaloo, ppl simply ignore the fact that it was totally irrelevant and unnecessary for Manu to bring Bani's mom incident into the picture and Bani too was baffled by this very thing. The cases were against Gaurav and Om g and suddenly it became all about Bani.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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He meant that she wasn't mentally and physically fit to be a witness as she couldn't even remember some of the events she was being questioned on. Manu didn't say anything during the task that provoked such a reaction out of her IMO.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pluviophile.

He meant that she wasn't mentally and physically fit to be a witness as she couldn't even remember some of the events she was being questioned on. Manu didn't say anything during the task that provoked such a reaction out of her IMO.


I just rewatched the whole thing and even when Manu started, Bani's expressions clearly showed she was upset with this being brought up, and Manu saw her expressions and was quick to say that he knows what was said by Om g was totally wrong. And how does her not knowing exactly which specific thing Manu was talking about make her mentally and physically unfit. That's actually an extreme statement to make. Yet she did not react to it and only then did Manu clarifiy he was talking about the push. He was clearly being provocative.

Still Bani answered with a lot of conviction and the gadha comment, but then both Manu and Maneer started cutting her off, yet she had her say and returned to her place.

It was den that Manu made the comment about her sleeping when things were said about his mother and dat is when she lost it and justifiably so, as then his questioning her abt her mother's comment took a different turn and she found it as vengeful on his part. He also kept attacking her and even then tho not clear from his part, but she was seen questioning that he said that her purpose was to get footage. Manu den started accusing her calling her mad and what not.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Completely agree!
Do not support Bani's actions from previous few weeks but Manu should be the last person questioning her, when he himself was sitting quiet and ignoring Jagga why does he question Bani whether she was sleeping or doing whatever!

More so, bringing this point to defend a douchebag like Om Swami is completely idiotic, first they send him to jail then fight his case taking personal grudges in the name of task and again ask Om Swami to go inside the jail when they feel they will be the ones looking wrong in all this, completely foolish of the 2 Gundas M2.

And then he questions Bani if she did all this for footage, while he looked more desperate for footage instead! What was the need to bring up the issue at all when he could have just mentioned that Bani had pushed Baba too yesterday in the flower bed task!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It wasn't irrelevant from a legal perspective. Opposing counsel was using Bani as a witness against Manu's client - discrediting said witness' testimony on the grounds that the witness is also guilty of pushing his client, is well within the realms of questioning.

There was nothing insensitive about Manu referencing the incident, in the manner that he did, either, IMO. While most, including myself, don't blame Bani for pushing Baba, the fact remains that she did indeed push him. And that was the extent of the question - she could've answered it as 'yes - I did push him', and baat khatam.

She chose, however, to twist it and take it completely off tangent. If she expects that the incident will never be brought up again, that is both unrealistic and unreasonable, IMO. She herself brings it up time and again when she reiterates her Baba-boycott. A panelist or Salman could bring it up when discussing the violence that has occurred this season, for example. Is she going to fly off the handle at them, too, for being so insensitive? I doubt it - and this is an incident that happened on the show - it is bound to be referenced at some point or another, and yesterday it wasn't even brought up regarding Baba's comment to her mum at all - it was about her push, but she chose to take it otherwise.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SP2684

It wasn't irrelevant from a legal perspective. Opposing counsel was using Bani as a witness against Manu's client - discrediting said witness' testimony on the grounds that the witness is also guilty of pushing his client, is well within the realms of questioning.


There was nothing insensitive about Manu referencing the incident, in the manner that he did, either, IMO. While most, including myself, don't blame Bani for pushing Baba, the fact remains that she did indeed push him. And that was the extent of the question - she could've answered it as 'yes - I did push him', and baat khatam.

She chose, however, to twist it and take it completely off tangent. If she expects that the incident will never be brought up again, that is both unrealistic and unreasonable, IMO. She herself brings it up time and again when she reiterates her Baba-boycott. A panelist or Salman could bring it up when discussing the violence that has occurred this season, for example. Is she going to fly off the handle at them, too, for being so insensitive? I doubt it - and this is an incident that happened on the show - it is bound to be referenced at some point or another, and yesterday it wasn't even brought up regarding Baba's comment to her mum at all - it was about her push, but she chose to take it otherwise.


Bani never defended the push and she clearly told Manu in the kitchen too that if it was the push he wanted to get into to defend Om g he should have brought the push she gave him in d captaincy task. She wasn't even defending herself. She takes a lot of crap told to her without retaliating, but it's obvious if it's even something remotely connected to her mother, she will react strongly. Even in d first week, in the horse task, when Jagga had started to drag Bani's family, before she could even start, Bani cut her off, warning her not to drag her family. She never goes personal or talks about the HMs doings that r not related to the BB house and expects the same. Der's an unseen video where Jagga said abt Manu telling that Bani wld be on his bed in days and Jagga started saying abt how his mother passed away and he's talking such things and Bani said she wouldn't comment on his mother's death, even after hearing such a disgusting thing being told by him.

Also I don't know if Manu didn't realize how sensitive Bani was about that, but clearly once he knew she was getting upset, after the argument was done he could have dropped it. But Manu knew dis may end up looking bad for him, so he tried to justify it by blaming it on Bani being asleep when Jagga told about his mother and dat clearly backfired on him, coz Bani den reacted even more strongly. Also Manu has such an ego dat in stead of saying sorry, and when the task had ended, in the kitchen he continued with her doing it for footage. He was clearly trying to do damage control of his image, but ended up making it worse as Bani was no ways going to take his crap especially his statement about her getting footage due to her mom.

As for her bringing up the incident, I agree to another post by ctrl+alt+del where she expalined the whole thing. Again in an unseen video bani was having a talk with Mona and der she said that Om g keeps trying to talk to her, but she has blocked him mentally and every time he does that, he just brings the whole incident back, which she is trying to forget and it becomes difficult for her. Maybe others would not get affected by such a thing, but clearly she is. Der r no fixed parameters on how and how much one should react and Bani reacts differently, that does not mean she's in the wrong.

As for Salman discussing it, from what I read of tonight's sneak peek, Salman did and he defended Manu and even den Bani refused to listen and so yes she does feel very strongly regarding this. She'll probably be bashed for not even listening to salman and ppl will gloat about how it's proved that she did after all overreact, but the fact remains that this is one matter she feels very strongly about, and has reacted strongly always whether with Jagga, Om g or Manu and she has stuck to her point.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: khamosshhh


Bani never defended the push and she clearly told Manu in the kitchen too that if it was the push he wanted to get into to defend Om g he should have brought the push she gave him in d captaincy task. She wasn't even defending herself. She takes a lot of crap told to her without retaliating, but it's obvious if it's even something remotely connected to her mother, she will react strongly. Even in d first week, in the horse task, when Jagga had started to drag Bani's family, before she could even start, Bani cut her off, warning her not to drag her family. She never goes personal or talks about the HMs doings that r not related to the BB house and expects the same. Der's an unseen video where Jagga said abt Manu telling that Bani wld be on his bed in days and Jagga started saying abt how his mother passed away and he's talking such things and Bani said she wouldn't comment on his mother's death, even after hearing such a disgusting thing being told by him.

Also I don't know if Manu didn't realize how sensitive Bani was about that, but clearly once he knew she was getting upset, after the argument was done he could have dropped it. But Manu knew dis may end up looking bad for him, so he tried to justify it by blaming it on Bani being asleep when Jagga told about his mother and dat clearly backfired on him, coz Bani den reacted even more strongly. Also Manu has such an ego dat in stead of saying sorry, and when the task had ended, in the kitchen he continued with her doing it for footage. He was clearly trying to do damage control of his image, but ended up making it worse as Bani was no ways going to take his crap especially his statement about her getting footage due to her mom.

As for her bringing up the incident, I agree to another post by ctrl+alt+del where she expalined the whole thing. Again in an unseen video bani was having a talk with Mona and der she said that Om g keeps trying to talk to her, but she has blocked him mentally and every time he does that, he just brings the whole incident back, which she is trying to forget and it becomes difficult for her. Maybe others would not get affected by such a thing, but clearly she is. Der r no fixed parameters on how and how much one should react and Bani reacts differently, that does not mean she's in the wrong.

As for Salman discussing it, from what I read of tonight's sneak peek, Salman did and he defended Manu and even den Bani refused to listen and so yes she does feel very strongly regarding this. She'll probably be bashed for not even listening to salman and ppl will gloat about how it's proved that she did after all overreact, but the fact remains that this is one matter she feels very strongly about, and has reacted strongly always whether with Jagga, Om g or Manu and she has stuck to her point.


I disagree - she unnecessarily went into her reasons for pushing Baba - which is defensive, and which was not what was being asked of her at all. Yes, Manu could have referenced the other push, but as I said, I see nothing wrong with his referencing the previous one - it doesn't bring up the issue any more than Bani does herself every time she voluntarily reiterates to a HM that she isn't speaking to Baba.

And again, it is an incident that happened on the show - it is highly unrealistic to expect that it should never be brought up again, not even to reference Bani's own actions. And it was only about the push, at that - nothing else. Bani was also seen bartering with Baba in that unseen video - offering her forgiveness in exchange for him letting go of the rope. That looked really bad - but I imagine Manu would have gotten even worse flak if he were ever to bring that up.

I completely agree that Manu's question of whether Bani was sleeping while Jagga mocked his mother's death, did not fit the line of questioning - he saw an opening there, and called her out on something that clearly miffed him. Bani's conspicuous silence and subsequent chummy-ness with Jagga, when it happened, after, and even after Manu nominated himself for her and it was shown on the weekend, appalled many. You see it as that backfiring on Manu - I see it as Bani predictably having no answer - as not being able to rationally hold her own when she's called out, and employing her usual go-tos in such situations.

He was indeed defending himself in the kitchen - he did not reference that issue to bring up her mother - he did not bring her mother into it - Bani did that. She twisted the matter and blew it out of proportion in the task. So he asked her if she was doing it for footage - it as in yesterday - the judge task - not the original incident, which Bani chose to take it as.

Having said that, I don't agree that she did it for footage - I found her genuine when she said she wouldn't play the mum-card. But she does amplify anything potentially negative said to her many-fold and reacts hysterically, because she cannot handle being called out/criticised. I also feel she doesn't wait to process/understand what is being said to her - she pounces on words, and blows it out of proportion, as she did yesterday.

As for people 'gloating' - I don't see how - it cannot be proven that she overreacted, even if Salman endorses that POV - simply because it's a POV. You think her reaction was warranted and proportionate - I don't - all a matter of perspective. Just as I agree with Salman when he says she made a mountain of a molehill. She's an adult - and she needs to understand, IMO, that if an incident happens on a show - it will be brought up again at some point or another, and I cannot identify with her flying off the handle when it is not even brought up in the context of her mother.

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