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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: AngelicTomboy
Jay. I agree with you post. Anika as an outsider didn't have any right to interfere in their family matter. Though I don't agree with Tej saying all those words. Wasn't he the one that said Anika.. You are a part of our family..

Ab kaha gaya uska vo words ?? I agree with Shivaay's POV. But what I am angry about is that he spoke about her bloodline and insulted her. That's where I lost it. He had no right whatsoever to comment on her and her bloodline.

If she doesn't have permission to interfere in his family matter, then he doesn't have the right to comment on her either..

Deepu I agree Shivaay didn't have a right to speak about her blood line or family. In fact he should not have even spoken about that. It's wrong. I agree on that.

But you can't dismiss the fact that Tej and Shivaay were always like this. This is their character. Just cause they are nice to Anika does not mean they will think of her as family too. For them when it comes to family, it is always their blood over others. We should never forget that. Tej and Shivaay will defend Anika but not over their family. For them their family will always come first before others. They are like the lions. You don't cross their paths

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: chottekikhushi
What you are saying is true and a bitter truth.No matter how much we preach, if an outsider interferes in our family affairs , we tend to get irritated.
But in normal families, we also wont take help from an outsider for clearing our family name from murder charges or call her family.
The truth is they took her help at multiple times to clear the family name and were indebted to her for atleast saving Rudra's life at one point.(The other two incidents could be justified as mere accidents.) Acknowledged that Anika was Prinku's bestfriend and kept telling her that she was family and gave her a lot of freedom around the house. She was at every festival and personal family events and literally lived in the house.
Shivaay even stopped his wedding midway just because she says she can prove the innocence of her uncle and Dad.I mean who does that?? Some random outsider comes and says I can help you , so you just get up from the mandap and walk off in the middle of the ceremony? Remember that anika was not some private detective or lawyer or anything like to help them out!!
And even after this , I am not saying that what (they thought) Anika did was right but insulting her and indirectly calling her a rootless orphan who they had , out of their good manners , 'allowed' to interact with them and firing her after so much verbal abuse , was not right. It was demeaning and cruel.

First thank you for commenting.

Yes you highlighted an important point. I agree that Anika helped the Oberois a lot. Yes an at various points, the Oberois were indebted to her. They took her help and she too volunteered to help. She took it upon herself to solve the Oberois' problems. Be it for dadi, the love and care the family showed her that she was deprived of since young.

But no matter what a guest and an outsider will always remain one. No matter how much we would want to be accepted as part of the family, we won't be (at least until Anika marries Shivaay). She should not have gone over the rule or decision made by the members in the family. That is clearly wrong.

But Shivaay had no right to insult her too. He had no rights to say all those awful things he said to her. Even I cringed at that part. My heart felt bad for Anika but my brain was like she deserved it. She should not have interfered and got into this mess in the first place. Shivaay was always this way. Just coz suddenly he is nice to her and didnt scold her doesnt mean he will turn into a prince from a beast just like that. 😕

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: SanyaEterna
Yes. What Shivaay did was right at some levels but how he did it was wrong on every level.

Thanks for commenting. Yes I agree. He should have done it better...the way he did was wrong.

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: -LetItGo-
priyanka is not at fault either, she was never grown up as a confident kid, everyone protected her and spoiled her with gifts but none care about her stammering nor she was ever told to be confident while you speak and how to face hard situations in life.

Shivaay was the one who supported her. And we saw how much Tej loves Priyanka during RB. She should have trusted her brother and father, they would have never thought bad for her ever. As for her stammering, low self esteem, I believe there is a back story to it. I hope CVs bring us Obbros childhood so we know what exactly went wrong.

Thanks for commenting!

Edited by Aphrodite88 - 9 years ago

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: reshma4875
Anika s jst an employee she didnt respect his words/ she interfere in family matters...For dat reason he can fire her...bt no need 2 insult her like dat...we should give some respect to others ...anika is an employee i agree bt she had done so many favours 2 them ...he should alteast give some respect wat she had done them earlier...

Shivaay was always this way from the start of the show. He did want he thought was right. When someone lower than him actually overrode his decision, do u think he is the kind who will reflect back on what all the person did for him and his family. Of course not. On top of that he was angry. He will never feel gratitude. Yes I agree feeling gratitude for favours done by Anika should be right, any normal human being will think about it... But Shivaay doesn't even thank anyone for their help. Will he actually reflect back on Anika's actions. Nope. She imposed her actions in OM and that will always be wrong in Shivaay's eyes and I don't blame him.

But him speaking about her family and blood was definitely wrong. No one has a right to insult anyone else no matter what wrong they did.

Thanks for commenting!

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Tunasnah
Great post jaya ...u highlighted other side of the coin which is missing...yes shivaay obsession with blood line khandaan surname is too much .

Thanks Tuna for commenting!

Yes Shivaay is clearly obsessed with it. But that's how he has always been. We have just seen a mellowed down version of him all these while. It doesn't mean he changed. He won't at least until Anika enters his life.

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: Patharsitara
Shivay was Wright in some extent. But he has no right to condemn someone because of his birth and bloodline as no one choose that on his own. Also the way he behave with ANIKA is uncivilized. Just imagine someone behaving that way with any girl employee in real life, anyone will feel disgusted. Just because this is fiction and all we see hero manhandled heroine and go GA GA over it. In real life such men need tight slap and should be Condemned

I am not a fan of the manhandling part too. It is bad. :(

But if we want Shivaay to act as an employer, then we should also expect Anika to act as an employee. No matter how much your employer's family treats you nicely, you should never forget you are still an employee. She clearly forgot that sadly.

I am not justifying Shivaay insulting Anika, that was wrong from every angle. But Anika was clearly at fault there and Shivaay should not have involved her family and blood line. He was always that way... Sadly and he won't change. Name and blood is very important to him no matter what.

Thanks for commenting!

Edited by Aphrodite88 - 9 years ago

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Jaya Devi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: yellomellow
He wasn't entirely wrong in this situation. It's just that his method was extremely wrong. If he was unhappy with her behavior he should have just fired her no need to insult her like that, but I guess we're supposed to see how hurt he was at her actions. He expected more from her and she betrayed him.

Wow you wrote it!

Exactly! She should have known better and he shouldnt have insulted her. Sigh!

Thanks for commenting!

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