Are we really open to grey shaded women?

Yes, this is what is going on in my mind after going through the chaos in the forum regarding yesterday's IshKara confrontation. It's the well known truth that Om is most loved character here and we all, well majority of us wanted to see a grey shaded woman opposite him, then the CVs gave us conwoman Ishaana who was more of spoof of conwoman than real, who is tied into the situation and a reluctant conwoman. Many of us didn't like the way Ishana was excuted, I was one of them, it was more like the CVs were hesitant to show a out and out grey woman so inserted a sob story angle to the conwoman who swinged between enjoying con and feeling guilty about it. But yesterday for the first time in the second-half of IshKara confrontation Ishana was in character, a badass, combative, unapologetic woman with the -you hurt me, I hurt you back with interest- attitude. But after seeing some reactions here I feel CVs were right in being hesitant to show a grey shaded badass woman.

My reaction to the first-half of the confrontation was like - oh god! Not again this sob story of poor having no choice, conning because of poverty, I am sorry etc etc but then the all fingers pointing attacking mode turns on with the family remark provokation and I was like - yes! this is what an unapologetic, badass woman is. Whether she is morally right or wrong doesn't matter here because she isn't supposed to be that, she is grey then why should she be morally right? All that matters is how aggressively she can stand for what she believes is right, it could be wrong to others, it could be wrong in the eyes of morality. That's what a grey character is, isn't it?

While trying to say-off Om that if my family is bad then yours is no good, she ended up actually speaking the bitter truth of Oberois, the fallen eyes of Rudra and stunning silence of Shivaay are the proof of it. She wasn't wrong about Shivaay being manipulative and pretensious as a businessman, just few mins before going to confront Ishaana Shivaay accepted the same infront of Om, she wasn't wrong about Rudra lieing to girls and playing around with their emotions. She didn't use them as defense to her actions because she already accepted she is aware she is wrong, all she did was hurting Om, showing him his family isn't diffrent than her and she gives a damn to his ideals. That's exactly a grey shaded agressive woman is! That is how she is supposed to be, there is no need for her to be bound to the moral compass and confront Om within her limits, she isn't Anika. We all don't want her to be all righteous like Anika then why the fuss when she is actually being what she is supposed to be.

Except Om and Anika, nobody is white out of the 6. Shivay and Ishana are complete grey, Rudra and Sowmya are semi- grey. There has to be this variety. For the first time I found Ishana in chatacter and if they continue to keep her like this I may start liking Ishana forgoing all the crap they served in the name of conwoman in the past.

As I end my ranting, just a question to all, if someone points fingers at your upbringing, your family in public even though your family is wrong will you be like- sorry bhai, tum sahi ho, meri family, mera upbringing galat hai *with the sight down and filled with shame* OR you will be like- saale, tum kaun ho mere family ke baare me bolnewale? Tumhari family kya bahuth great hai? *with aggressive eyes and tone*
This question is in no way to support or criticize Ishana & Om, just a genuine question without any ulterior motives.

P.S: I feel like laughing at myself, because earlier Ishana fans and some IshKara fans disliked me, now Om fans and ShivOmRu fans will dislike me 😆

Well written... 👍🏼

For me, it was not so much her combative mode as her oscillation between being a grey character to majboori that put me off. She began with her sob story, then she gave a lecture on Om's family to show she isn't the only one with flaws, but she concludes her argument again with the majboori thing.

Originally posted by: reeeh

Well written...👍🏼

Ishana is a character... she has her flaws... its not necessary that a character should be 'ideal' or shd be 'justified always' for her to be acceptable as a character...

You just spoke whatever I had in my mind...

PS: if you enjoy the show, y bother about fan grps... !!

Exactly, being welcome to the flawed character doesn't mean condoning the wrong, it's just being open to all the dynamics and trying to think in diffrent view points but unfortunately mostly audience want to see only ideal character or if it's not ideal then it should have justification like some tragic story or majboori. Probably that's why the writers gave Ishaana the majboori angle.

Originally posted by: ..CrazyInLove..

For me, it was not so much her combative mode as her oscillation between being a grey character to majboori that put me off. She began with her sob story, then she gave a lecture on Om's family to show she isn't the only one with flaws, but she concludes her argument again with the majboori thing.

As a ShivOmRu fan, I was upset at her audacity to point fingers at others when she is in the wrong. And I would have foregone that had she just lectured him and walked out like a boss without caring to defend her reasons in front of them. But she brings up her majboori again. People doing such acts out of majboori ought to have more shame when they are caught. She wasn't ashamed of her acts, yet she kept defending herself.

Shivaay is aware of what he is and never bothers to defend himself either. He is ok with people misunderstanding him because he knows what he does and why like the Rakshabandhan day. Sadly, CVs have made a khichdi out of Ishana's character, they themselves aren't sure whether she should be good or grey.

Originally posted by: ..CrazyInLove..

For me, it was not so much her combative mode as her oscillation between being a grey character to majboori that put me off. She began with her sob story, then she gave a lecture on Om's family to show she isn't the only one with flaws, but she concludes her argument again with the majboori thing.

As a ShivOmRu fan, I was upset at her audacity to point fingers at others when she is in the wrong. And I would have foregone that had she just lectured him and walked out like a boss without caring to defend her reasons in front of them. But she brings up her majboori again. People doing such acts out of majboori ought to have more shame when they are caught. She wasn't ashamed of her acts, yet she kept defending herself.

Shivaay is aware of what he is and never bothers to defend himself either. He is ok with people misunderstanding him because he knows what he does and why like the Rakshabandhan day. Sadly, CVs have made a khichdi out of Ishana's character, they themselves aren't sure whether she should be good or grey.

She was with her majboori sob story initially, that's why I said from second-half she got into the supposed character of Ishana. Not being ashamed of her action is what being an unapologetic, that's why she is grey, if she is ashamed for action then she is turning out to be good helpless woman which she is not supposed to be. My major problem with Ishana was her oscillation between being helpless, guilty and being happy about conning, if today too she would have said sorry and walked off with shame/guilt then she wouldn't be a promised grey character anyway.
Why shouldn't she pointy fingers at Oberoi's they aren't holier than thou and if they are then too what's there in pointing fibgers at them? Why only a righteous person has the right to question someone? Shivaay not caring or not caring is not the matter but him realizing what she spoke is truth. Yesterday seemed like CVs are clearing their kichdi.

Originally posted by: Actomyo

Exactly, being welcome to the flawed character doesn't mean condoning the wrong, it's just being open to all the dynamics and trying to think in diffrent view points but unfortunately mostly audience want to see only ideal character or if it's not ideal then it should have justification like some tragic story or majboori. Probably that's why the writers gave Ishaana the majboori angle.

no objection whatever ishana said to om. but sme flaws i found in the scene

I personally don't like her because she pretends to be all out strong but she can't say anything to her father. Her father is as bad as Shivaay's father, but she can't see that. They are not poor as I said earlier in my post. She is just doing all that so she can pay for her father's Ayashi and that can never be justified