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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: TheBoss


Im talking about somebody else. He isnt the Imam mahdi from the 12th imam of shias. This one is also refered to Mahdi Alaihis Salam. He will actually die after defeating the dajjal and Jesus/Hazrat Esa will perform his funeral prayer.



Who Is Imaam Mahdi?

Please do not confuse Imaam Mahdi with Hadhrat Eisa (Jesus) alayhis salaam. They are two different persons, and both will come during the last days. According to Hadeeth, Imaam Mahdi will appear first, and Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam will appear during Imaam Mahdi's lifetime. Furthermore, only Hadhrat Eisa alayhis salaam will be able to kill Dajjal (the "anti-Christ").

The term "MAHDI" is a title meaning "The Guided one".

Hadhrat Abdullah bin Mas'ood radhiyallahu anhu says that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam said, "This world will not come to an end until one person from my progeny does not rule over the Arabs, and his name will be the same as my name."

(Tirimdhi)

Hadhrat Ali radhiyallahu anhu narrates that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam said, "Even if only a day remains for Qiyamah to come, yet Allah will surely send a man from my family who will fill this world with such justice and fairness, just as it initally was filled with oppression."

(Abu Daawood)

His Features

Hadhrat Abu Saeed Khudri radhiyallahu anhu relates that Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam said, "Al Mahdi will be from my progeny. His forehead will be broad and his nose will be high. He will fill the world with justice and fairness at a time when the world will be filled with oppression. He will rule for seven years."

Other ahadeeth inform us that:

He will be tall
He will be fair complexioned
His facial features will be similar to those of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam
His character will be exactly like that of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam
His father's name will be Abdullah
His mother's name will be Aamina
He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh.
His age at the time of his emergence will be forty years
He will receive Knowledge from Allah.
His Emergence and Rule

That is the Mahdi who as per Shia belief is the 12th Imam. The lineage of Prophet Mohammed through Sayyeda Fatima and Maula Ali. The son of Imam Hussain through his only son alive Imam Zain-ul-Abideen.
Nabi Isa will arrive as per Islam as a religion regardless of sect. But the Mahdi is another disputed topic between Shias and Sunni's.
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Posted: 9 years ago
A question, Came to know about these people when a model from Seattle married into the family and it was in a magazine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

Are the Aghas really the lineage they claim from?
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Ahm

He didn't die as per Islam. So Muslims don't believe in it I guess.

thanks..this thread really is an eye opener.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: NepaliStrawbery

A question, Came to know about these people when a model from Seattle married into the family and it was in a magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

Are the Aghas really the lineage they claim from?


There are many many many many sects in Islam who claim their leader is direct descendant from the Prophet Mohammad. Aga Khan is for Ismailis, then there are Bohras, then Ahmedis, and many more. This is the single heated issue that divides Sunnis and Shias and also some in between. For the most part, majority speaking they do not believe that he has any lineage since he did not had any sons and anybody claiming to be from his lineage is usually frowned upon because the caste system of elititist does not occur in Islam. For many you are just as equal as me and vis a vis.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: MiniRulz

thanks..this thread really is an eye opener.


Islam vs. Christianity
Quick Overview of the similarities and differences between Islam & Christianity
Islam and Christianity are very similar. Both believe that:
- There is only one God. He is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.

- God sent prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob (later called "Israel"), Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon, John the Baptist, Jesus, Mohammad, etc, (peace be upon all of them).

- People should follow the holy scriptures of God and teachings of the prophets.

- The Torah (Old Testament of the Bible) and the Gospel (New Testament of the Bible) are holy scriptures.

- Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virgin; therefore Jesus was born miraculously.

- Jesus Christ is a Messiah and he performed miracles.

- Satan is evil; therefore, people should not follow Satan.

- An Anti-Christ will appear on Earth before the Day of Judgment.

- Jesus Christ will return to the Earth by descending from Heaven and will kill the Anti-Christ.

- The Day of Judgment will occur and people will be judged.

- There is hell and paradise.


There are 3 main differences between Islam & Christianity:

1. Today, most Christians believe in the Trinity, meaning that God has 3 forms (Father, Son, Holy Ghost/ Spirit). The concept of trinity was not adopted by Christianity until the Council of Nicea in 325 AD. Some of the early Christians were Unitarians. Even today, there are Christian Unitarian churches that do not accept the Trinity. Notable Rationalist Unitarians include thinkers such as Ralph Waldo Emerson (American), scientists such as Isaac Newton (British), as well as famous figures such as Florence Nightingale (British) in nursing and humanitarianism, Charles Dickens (British) in literature, and Frank Lloyd Wright (American) in architecture.

While in Islam,

(a) Trinity is totally rejected. Jesus is neither God, nor Son of God (in the literal sense). Jesus was a human prophet and not divine.

(b) Muslims worship only God, the one and only the creator and sustainer of the universe.

(c) This God (the Quran refers to as Allah) is the God and creator of Jesus and is the same God that Jesus in the current Bible refers to as Father and to whom Jesus used to pray.

(d) Muslims consider Mohammad, Moses, and Jesus as prophets and messengers sent by God. These prophets were human beings, not divine, and should not be worshipped directly or indirectly.

(e) If son/daughter of God means a person created by God, then all humans are children of God. So there is nothing special or divine about Jesus being called son of God and therefore Jesus should not be worshipped. If son/daughter of God means a pious, religious person who follows the commands of God, Jesus was indeed pious and religious. However, it is unacceptable to believe that God is the biological father of Jesus meaning that God had sex with Mary, the mother of Jesus.

(f) Finally, angels (such as Gabriel) are servants/agents of God. Angels are created by God; therefore, they are not divine and should not be worshipped.


2. The Quran says Jesus did not die on the cross, but God made it appear that way to people. Furthermore, the Quran also says that Jesus was ascended to Heaven by God. Most Christians today insist Jesus was crucified and died on the cross, but two days later was resurrected.


3. Christians believe in the concept of "Original Sin" which means that human beings are born as sinners , bearing the burden of the "Original Sin" of Adam and Eve. Muslims do not believe in the " Original Sin" for 2 main reasons:

(a) In the Quran, God forgave Adam for what he has done, and

(b) According to the Quran, no one should be made to bear the burden of someone else's sin or mistake because it is unfair.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: NepaliStrawbery

A question, Came to know about these people when a model from Seattle married into the family and it was in a magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

Are the Aghas really the lineage they claim from?

I am not 100% sure but apparently after Imam Hussain's martyrdom his only son alive was Imam Zain-ul-Abideen the 4th Imam.
The Shia's believe that Musa-al-Kadhim was true successor and the 7th Imam while Ismailis believe that his brother Ismail is the 7th Imam and successor of their father Jafar as Sadiq. And Agha Khan is believed to be from the lineage of Ismail ibn Jafar who was the great great great grandson of Imam Ali and Sayyeda Fatema hence the lineage of Prophet Mohammed.
Most of the Islam religion was divided into sects after the belief over succession. The major split between Sunni-Shia. And from Shia sect over the succession of Imam we had different sects. From Sunni sect people follow different scholars who branched from the 6th Imam Jaffar Sadiq. And thats why its known as the school of Jaffar-as-Sadiq.

And the entire lineage or like us Muslims call them Sayyeds (Noble/Sir) stems from the children of Sayyeda Fatima. If you look at it Imam Ali had sons from his other wives too but they are not Sayyeds. The Sayyeds are Imam Hasan and Imam Hussain the grandson of Prophet Mohammed.
Edited by K.Ahm - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
The king of Jordan Abdulla II claims he is the descendant of Prophet Muhammad

His belongs to the family of Hashemites who ruled Mecca continuously from the 10th century til 1924. Their eponymous ancestor is Hashim ibn Abd Manaf, great-grandfather of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. (wiki)
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: ---Betty---

The king of Jordan Abdulla II claims he is the descendant of Prophet Muhammad

His belongs to the family of Hashemites who ruled Mecca continuously from the 10th century til 1924. Their eponymous ancestor is Hashim ibn Abd Manaf, great-grandfather of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. (wiki)

He can be of the Hashimi clan but not descendent of Prophet Mohammed.
Prophet Mohammed's lineage starts with Sayyeda Fatema's sons.
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