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Posted: 18 years ago
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this is a serious topic i mean i have many questions after watching the movie awarapan. there was a scene in the movie where they imported girls in a container which had me thinking when will this stop? will it ever stop? what are the ways to stop it. when the girl was bought as slave by ashutosh, the girl had a choice to run away, why didnt she run away? 😕 😕 😕 the other day, we were having a discussion of something and by some means one of the discussions cropped up by one of the ladies who said that she watched a program on tv where they show how the girls are bought and sold. these are very small kids who are used. some of them experience so much that they have no choice but to take their own life. will this ever stop?
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Posted: 18 years ago
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its human nature. It wont stop or change...until everybody becomes vegetarian....since thats a sure sign of change from a primitive state we started with...and ability to stay that way defines the character..of the species as a whole. 😊
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

its human nature. It wont stop or change...until everybody becomes vegetarian....since thats a sure sign of change from a primitive state we started with...and ability to stay that way defines the character..of the species as a whole. 😊

Do you mean to say that vegetarian people don't go to wh*re houses?? 😕 Food habits usually depict what is more available in that region, rather than giving an idea of how advanced the people are.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Do you mean to say that vegetarian people don't go to wh*re houses?? 😕 Food habits usually depict what is more available in that region, rather than giving an idea of how advanced the people are.

I know one thing for sure they dont run one..which is the topic of the discussion.......😊..

Food habit define a character as well a strong one...... what you say may be true in siberia and artic and antartica...😆

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I know one thing for sure they dont run one..which is the topic of the discussion.......😊..

I don't know how you can be so sure about that but anyway even if they are just visitors they're supporting the industry, so they're equally responsible.

Food habit define a character as well a strong one...... what you say may be true in siberia and artic and antartica...😆

No, not just in Siberia and Arctic regions but all over the world. Of course religion also plays its part. For example since there are so many rivers in Bengal fresh water fish are preferred highly, however, in Bangladesh even though there are even more rivers because of frequent flooding along with fresh water fish they also prefer dried preserved fish. Also because of frequent flooding Bangladeshis have less supply of vegetables and usually eat more of those vegetables and roots which are found in mud or muddy waters. Lastly since Bangladeshis are mostly Muslims, beef consumption is quite high there, and liquor is completely banned except for tourists.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: raunaq

this is a serious topic i mean i have many questions after watching the movie awarapan. there was a scene in the movie where they imported girls in a container which had me thinking when will this stop? will it ever stop? what are the ways to stop it. when the girl was bought as slave by ashutosh, the girl had a choice to run away, why didnt she run away? 😕 😕 😕 the other day, we were having a discussion of something and by some means one of the discussions cropped up by one of the ladies who said that she watched a program on tv where they show how the girls are bought and sold. these are very small kids who are used. some of them experience so much that they have no choice but to take their own life. will this ever stop?

  1. Poverty
  2. Love for Money
  3. Lust

As long as these are prevalant on this Earth..these type of atrocitiess donot stop. We cannot do anything right now raunaq! Wait for this ghor kalyug to end(am not saying about the kalyug movie) a new yug starts ..in which dharm only prevails😛

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Man its not about whats available... There are roaches in the house - how many would relish having them for lunch or breakfast... The point is its not about eating in time of need but relishing it in face of alternatives.. This tendency makes us believe sab chalta hai.. If somebody is selling a woman and if I can buy her whats the problem there...ok thast the mentality...Goodness comes and flourishes due to basic intentions not those occasional trips of conscience..Now I cant correlate vegetarianism to this directly since there are other factors in play here...😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Its happening All over the world one way ya another way...like sex scandals,occupational torture, physical torture, abuse not only in girls but even in boys too...😳

A victory for Pakistan's women

I n a victory for human rights, Pakistan's Supreme Court has suspended the acquittals of men accused of gang-raping a villager. The victim has become an international cause celebre for her refusal to accept humiliation by her attackers and Pakistan's legal system. Those who dare claim that such behavior should be tolerated out of respect for cultural differences deserve nothing but derision. No woman should be treated this way.

The case of Ms. Mukhtar Mai is a sad one. In June 2002, she was gang-raped by eight men. The attack was ordered by the council of village elders, the real power in many villages in rural Pakistan. The brutalities against Ms. Mai were allegedly authorized as punishment for her 12-year-old brother's alleged affair with a woman who was from a higher-caste family or, according to other stories, from a rival clan known as the Mastoi. One of the rapists was a member of the woman's family.

The Mai family maintains that the charge against Ms. Mai's brother was fabricated after the boy was sodomized by men from the Mastoi clan and the family threatened to report the matter to police. Three men were eventually tried for that crime and sentenced to five-year prison terms.

In August 2002, a trial court sentenced six of Ms. Mai's attackers to death and acquitted eight others in the rape. In March of this year, however, a provincial court acquitted five of the men and reduced the death sentence of the remaining defendant to life in prison. The court said it had doubts about the attack as a result of inconsistencies in the medical evidence and the fact that Ms. Mai had waited a week before reporting the rape. (Her defenders acknowledge the delay in going to the authorities, but said it was understandable given the abuse of victims that follows going public.)

Days later Pakistan's highest Islamic (Shariah) court suspended the provincial court's acquittals and sentence reduction, ruling that the provincial court did not have jurisdiction to hear appeals under Islamic law.

Pakistan's Supreme Court then intervened and set aside the Shariah court's ruling until it could decide on the merits of Ms. Mai's appeal. Last week, after reviewing the case, the Supreme Court suspended the acquittals of the five men convicted and ordered that all 14 men charged in the first trial be held pending retrial, a process that could take months.

The denial of Ms. Mai's rights extended beyond the legal process. Unlike virtually all other Pakistani women brutalized in such a manner, she did not suffer in silence. Instead she went public with her ordeal and focused international attention on the sordid treatment of women in Pakistan's rural communities. Her efforts earned her the enmity of the Pakistan government. After being invited by a U.S. human-rights group to speak on women's rights in rural Pakistan, her passport was confiscated by the government.

Pakistan President Gen. Pervez Musharraf reportedly said he ordered the seizure to prevent her from traveling abroad to "bad-mouth" the country. Protests from key allies of Pakistan, such as the United States, compelled Islamabad to return her passport.

Sadly, Ms. Mai's treatment is far from unusual. In 1999, a Human Rights Watch report estimated that as many as 90 percent of Pakistan's women suffered abuse at the hands of their spouses. According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, in 2003 more than 600 women were killed for alleged breaches of "honor." By one estimate, about 1,000 women are killed annually "in the name of honor" by close relatives; in well over 60 percent of cases, no one is punished for the crime.

The treatment of women is exacerbated by their low social status and low level of education. Despite considerable efforts to educate women, one study finds that only 36 percent of Pakistan's women are literate, as opposed to 60 percent of men. Even many of the women who are educated know little about their rights. Given the confusion surrounding Ms. Mai's case, their ignorance is understandable.

This sad situation can be remedied. Women have legal platforms to assert their rights in Pakistan. The Declaration of Human Rights states explicitly that "everyone has the right to life, liberty and the security of the person."

In 1996, Pakistan joined the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, which requires the government to take action to eliminate violence against women as a form of discrimination that inhibits the ability of women to enjoy their rights and freedoms on an equal basis with men.

Pakistan must embrace the spirit of these conventions and enforce them to realize the gender rights it professes to believe in. The Supreme Court ruling is a start.

source:The Japan Times: July 3, 2007

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Posted: 18 years ago
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^^^nice article vinu 😛 , do you have a direct link to it since i am unable to find it.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: raunaq

^^^nice article vinu 😛 , do you have a direct link to it since i am unable to find it.

Thanx n Sorry naunaq ji.....i got that article in mail.....but source they say its from Japanes times...😳

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