Kiss scene- symbolic?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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KKB CVs aren't the best. We all know that judging by how they drag to their detriment.
But they're not stupid either. Time and time again, they have shown some wonderfully symbolic scenes and these type of scenes are the ones I truly appreciate and applaud. 👏

Was yesterday's 'kiss scene', where Abhi kisses Pragya and wants to kiss her again, alluding to something?
It was cute and fun to watch Abhigya being kiddish but one dialogue by Abhi struck me as quite interesting. He said something (not exactly) like this:

"When a person gets hurt and something wrong happens to them, if you repeat the act that hurt them, they may get better. I should give you another kiss so you remember the lines..."

He was of course referring to that age old 'cure' to amnesia that they show extensively in Bollywood and Hindi serials where someone gets amnesia by hitting their head, and then regains their memory again in the distant future after much drama after hitting their head again.

So, what's so interesting about that?

This whole LM track started with Pragya's accident. History is going to repeat itself and now she's going to have another accident of the same kind.

So replace some elements of that kiss scene with a few factors and you can see some parallels:
Instead of 2 kisses, replace it with 2 accidents.
Instead of Abhi trying to kiss her, replace him with Takhil who are trying to get her into an accident.
Instead of Pragya forgetting the lines of the song, replace it with her forgetting/ being slow in exposing the truth to Abhi.

What if this scene is setting up Pragya to finally wake up and actually expose the truth to Abhi- maybe even remember that Abhi loves and trusts her and just telling him the truth is enough as it is- no formal proving needed. Maybe make her forget Dadi's stupid manipulations.

Another 'theory' I want to present is that this scene may be suggesting Pragya will lose her memory after this second accident, especially since Abhi said the dialogue:

"Are you Ghajini who keeps having short term memory loss?" (Ghajini is a character played by Aamir Khan in the movie Ghajini where he too develops a condition where he has short term memory loss after being hit on the head).

I may be just over analysing the scene but I thought it was quite interesting due to the choice of dialogues. Also, with the abundances of kissing (which I have no problem with 😆), I thought the writers were using them for a more purposeful cause rather than just to pacify Abhigya fans. 😆

Anyway, just another post with me rambling! Would love to read some opinions and any other symbolic scene that you really liked 😃





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Posted: 9 years ago
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Haven't watched episode yet but your pov certainly seems to be interesting... Have to say u r such an amazing observer... If your prediction happens to be true i will be More than happy because it Will be way better to see a memory loss track than this mission but it also depends how much memory she losses???
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kiss and baby are a recurring topic in the story. Kiss came up in the misunderstanding about CPR/kiss in party after kidnapping. Kiss and baby came up in Pranu track when abhigya were drunk and again during holi.

I thought it was very interesting Pragya said she "forgot" what she said. When I heard Abhi's lines about Ghajini and kissing her again to bring back her memory, I thought this is foreshadowing. Usually CV's don't give lines which are like a premonition to Abhi, but last episode gave me hints about what's to come. I don't know maybe this kiss will be the last thing she remembers. And another kiss from Abhi will bring her memory back??

I also felt all those photos were huge hints that they are there to show her past when she loses her memory. Let's see!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: jaydp59

Haven't watched episode yet but your pov certainly seems to be interesting... Have to say u r such an amazing observer... If your prediction happens to be true i will be More than happy because it Will be way better to see a memory loss track than this mission but it also depends how much memory she losses???


@bold Where I live, you have years and years of experience in over analysing things when you do English or literature in school/uni ('blue curtains? person must be depressed' kind of thing) 😆

@italics True... if Pragz does lose her memory, I wonder how much she'll lose...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cerealgirl

Kiss and baby are a recurring topic in the story. Kiss came up in the misunderstanding about CPR/kiss in party after kidnapping. Kiss and baby came up in Pranu track when abhigya were drunk and again during holi.

I thought it was very interesting Pragya said she "forgot" what she said. When I heard Abhi's lines about Ghajini and kissing her again to bring back her memory, I thought this is foreshadowing. Usually CV's don't give lines which are like a premonition to Abhi, but last episode gave me hints about what's to come. I don't know maybe this kiss will be the last thing she remembers. And another kiss from Abhi will bring her memory back??

I also felt all those photos were huge hints that they are there to show her past when she loses her memory. Let's see!


So true! 'Kissing' is a huge 'motif' in KKB- in the same ranks as mangalsutra, kumkum etc (I think Pragya's chasma is on it's own level when it comes to motifs 😆)
So I wasn't the only one to think that whole scene was fishy! Yay!!! 😃

@ red You could be right!!! Now you've got me excited for a possible scene(s)! 😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: paglahawai


So true! 'Kissing' is a huge 'motif' in KKB- in the same ranks as mangalsutra, kumkum etc (I think Pragya's chasma is on it's own level when it comes to motifs 😆)
So I wasn't the only one to think that whole scene was fishy! Yay!!! 😃

@ red You could be right!!! Now you've got me excited for a possible scene(s)! 😃



Yes, chasma itself is a fantastic metaphor in the story!😊

I thought it was interesting how they showed Abhi and Pragya running in circles around that ottoman today - metaphor for their relationship so far.

Then Abhi was chasing Pragya. Finally both were facing one direction like Pragya always wanted. And both run into Tanu. Finally they look like they're in each other's grasp and what do we have?? Tanu the roadblock.🤢 So yeah, today's epi had a lot of visual cues and dialogs.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agree that CVs go to extent of butchering the characters for the sake of drag but they often does brilliant job with symbolism ..
Some beautiful symbolic scenes and followed tracks are

Scene1 : MS ordered by Sarla gets dropped on floor and Abhi picks up and hands it over to Pragya ..
This scene is abstract of followed track. Pragya's maarige with Suresh gets halted and finally Abhi will marry Pragya ..

Scene 2: Light on and off things when they exchnage garlands in Abhigya marriage ..

This scene subtly told their dynamics after marriage

Scene 3: Neel playing toss with head and tail game to tease Pragya about Abhi choosing Tanu over Pragya.. And the coin flips after some time to heads and Pragya fails to notice it

And the followed track is Pragya proposing Abhi hoping he will accept her but she ends up having an impression Tabhi are meant to be together .. She fails to notice Abhi's love and how he wish to be with her ..

Scene 4 : When Abhigya takes Tanu to hospital .. One kid playing with Bubbles and Abhigya gets lost in each other eyes .. Kid says every thing is finished when the bubbles are over and Abhi bursts the bubble

Abhigya happy days end with that hospital scene and rona dona started

Scene 5 : Tanu hugs Abhi and Pragya starts leaving from there and Abhi stops Pragya with one hand having Tanu hugging him

The followed track till Pragya's accident .. He got Tanu into his home and he tried hard to stop Pragya ..

These are the symbolic scenes that are on top of my mind because I was really impressed with the thought they gave to scenes and execution is at its best too..

But there are many symbolic scenes in KB ..

Yesterday , Dadi's dialogue about having Pragya's photos in his room to remember her in Pragya's absence is scaring me more than Abhi's dailogue about memory loss and kiss ..




Edited by Raji9 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cerealgirl

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Yes, chasma itself is a fantastic metaphor in the story!😊

I thought it was interesting how they showed Abhi and Pragya running in circles around that ottoman today - metaphor for their relationship so far.

Then Abhi was chasing Pragya. Finally both were facing one direction like Pragya always wanted. And both run into Tanu. Finally they look like they're in each other's grasp and what do we have?? Tanu the roadblock.🤢 So yeah, today's epi had a lot of visual cues and dialogs.


Dude, wow, that's a very interesting way of interpreting the scene... 👏
At one time, Pragya was so oogly with her love for Abhi and that kinda annoyed me, especially because Abhi was not appreciating her that much and just brushing her off for Tanu. Now I love how Abhi is chasing after Pragya- may he always long for her in this way and more! 😃

The CVs are doing a great job at setting the scene and building suspense. If only they used this brain power and creativity always and in better ways too. -_-
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raji9

Agree that CVs go to extent of butchering the characters for the sake of drag but they often does brilliant job with symbolism ..

Some beautiful symbolic scenes and followed tracks are

Scene1 : MS ordered by Sarla gets dropped on floor and Abhi picks up and hands it over to Pragya ..
This scene is abstract of followed track. Pragya's maarige with Suresh gets halted and finally Abhi will marry Pragya ..

Scene 2: Light on and off things when they exchnage garlands in Abhigya marriage ..

This scene subtly told their dynamics after marriage

Scene 3: Neel playing toss with head and tail game to tease Pragya about Abhi choosing Tanu over Pragya.. And the coin flips after some time to heads and Pragya fails to notice it

And the followed track is Pragya proposing Abhi hoping he will accept her but she ends up having an impression Tabhi are meant to be together .. She fails to notice Abhi's love and how he wish to be with her ..

Scene 4 : When Abhigya takes Tanu to hospital .. One kid playing with Bubbles and Abhigya gets lost in each other eyes .. Kid says every thing is finished when the bubbles are over and Abhi bursts the bubble

Abhigya happy days end with that hospital scene and rona dona started

Scene 5 : Tanu hugs Abhi and Pragya starts leaving from there and Abhi stops Pragya with one hand having Tanu hugging him

The followed track till Pragya's accident .. He got Tanu into his home and he tried hard to stop Pragya ..

These are the symbolic scenes that are on top of my mind because I was really impressed with the thought they gave to scenes and execution is at its best too..

But there are many symbolic scenes in KB ..

Yesterday , Dadi's dialogue about having Pragya's photos in his room to remember her in Pragya's absence is scaring me more than Abhi's dailogue about memory loss and kiss ..





that dialogue of dadi is also scaring me more...it indicates separation.. & abhi's dialogue indicates memory loss ...it makes me confused that which track we have??? Or the combination of both !???? Which is much more scarier than the memory loss...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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In yesterday episode, Abhi was looking fishyly at Purab, when he was thinking of plan n Abhi was looking at Dadi in same manner, when she told Pragya n not mogambo
Even in precap I think Abhi will act emotional n when Pragya wil pacify him, he will know how deeply she actually loves him, he is upto something, till date they have not shown who called Abhi that night,
N sarla maa, can wright n tell about Pragya accident

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