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Posted: 9 years ago
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Elaborate funeral scene for dadisa.

Akheraj is in war mode. Do or die.

Would anandi have been saved if she with others fell down instead of running or standing still?

Dadisa deserved such an honour. She was like a ruler throughout her life and expected others to follow her words. She was there for anyone who won her heart.

Now she is at peace and no more into worldly woes. Those who die have nothing to fear anymore. No oldage related illnesses, no need to see younger ones dying in front of them. They are beyond.

Everyone has to die and those who die with people shedding tears for them are lucky. Anandi, Jagya, Ganga and others shed copious tears for her and are sending her away grandly. She was near to those who she loved and cherished. Will BH be ever the same again without her presence?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Who will inherit her legacy?

I think no one. She is one of a kind.

She is like heritage building. With lots of history written allover.

They can recreate anandi through Nandini. Recreate Shiv through Shivam. But they cant recreate another dadisa. Even anandi would not have inherited the legacy if she was alive because she did not have that practicality, ruthlessness exhibited by dadisa.

Only Jagya has some of these qualities. Soft but hard when required. Practical and no nonsense person.
To some extent, he fits the bill.
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Very touching tribute to Dsa but one question.
What did Dsa start off as ? What was she when her life ended?

What were the factors in that transformation?

Wasn't Bhairon a man of progressive thoughts? Didn't he always try to convince Dsa? Why was he not successful?

Didn't Dsa see child marriages breaking up? Didn't she know how pitiful the lives abandoned child brides are before Anandi came in to her life?

She knew all the consequences of the traditional beliefs and practices even before Anandi came into her life but she never questioned those beliefs she believed in them and practiced them with utmost sincerity.

Didn't she see tragic events in her family before Suguna became a widow? Did she think there is anything wrong in buying Gehna for Basant?


So what made her question the traditions?

She came across this girl who constantly questioned the traditions which are aimed at weakening womens' status in the family and society.The girl may not even have realised what she was doing when she was constantly questioning.

When she saw the life of a girl who never shared her beliefs being ruined by her own beliefs practices and her actions did she change. She realised how right that girl had been and how wrong she was. That is when she started to question those practices and started disregard them.

The woman who opposed Anandi startung a school went on to sit on Dharna to protect that school's interests.

The lady who locked up little Anandi because she put bangles on the hands of child widow went on to endorse the rights of widow.

So who carried on whose legacy is the question here.


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Originally posted by: aparnauma

Very touching tribute to Dsa but one question.

What did Dsa start off as ? What was she when her life ended?

What were the factors in that transformation?

Wasn't Bhairon a man of progressive thoughts? Didn't he always try to convince Dsa? Why was he not successful?

Didn't Dsa see child marriages breaking up? Didn't she know how pitiful the lives abandoned child brides are before Anandi came in to her life?

She knew all the consequences of the traditional beliefs and practices even before Anandi came into her life but she never questioned those beliefs she believed in them and practiced them with utmost sincerity.

Didn't she tragic events in her family before Suguna became a widow? Did she think there is anything wrong in buying Gehna for Basant?


So what made her question the traditions?

She came across this girl who constantly questioned the traditions which are aimed at weakening womens' status in the family and society.The girl may not even have realised what she was doing when she was constantly questioning.

When she saw the life of a girl who never shared her beliefs being ruined by her own beliefs practices and her actions did she change. She realised how right that girl had been and how wrong she was. That is when she started to question those practices and started disregard them.

The woman who opposed Anandi startung a school went on to sit on Dharna to protect that school's interests.

The lady who locked up little Anandi because she put bangles on the hands of child widow went on to endorse the rights of widow.

So who carried on whose legacy is the question here.




I think anandi carried Shiv's legacy because both were the same from the beginning. While dadisa is another type altogether. She invoked awe,

Dadisa had an inbuilt harshness and authoritarian streak in her along with a love for those who were lucky enough to be in her good books. We saw this until recently.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: leavesandwaves

Who will inherit her legacy?

I think no one. She is one of a kind.

She is like heritage building. With lots of history written allover.

They can recreate anandi through Nandini. Recreate Shiv through Shivam. But they cant recreate another dadisa. Even anandi would not have inherited the legacy if she was alive because she did not have that practicality, ruthlessness exhibited by dadisa.

Only Jagya has some of these qualities. Soft but hard when required. Practical and no nonsense person.
To some extent, he fits the bill.

It doesn't matter anymore as all characters are existing. But honestly of the given options, Ganga suits better to carry the legacy forward.


Ganga has that street smartness, the fire, a streak of selfishness which is very necessary to safeguard one's interest and to control ones own life. But at the same time she has a strong sense of pride and self respect. Some of these are Dsa's strong qualities too.

Just like Dsa, Ganga too has lived through cruel realities of life and this has made her a tough person. Ganga is soft to those whom she loves but she has a fiery side to herself which she knows how to use when dealing with tougher situations..

Compared to Ganga; Jagya and Anandi have both lived in protected and secured environment all their lives. That's why they are soft, even if Jagya is practical.

Ganga is one woman who is still capable of rebuilding her life once again without any support, should a need arise.

Dsa is one unique character who cannot be recreated, but Ganga surely has it in her to carry Dsa's legacy forward.
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Ganga has the will but at every step Jagya helped her. When she was jailed. When she left BH wandering aimlessly. While Jagya tried to stand on his own feet even when he was left by everybody. Once he recovered there was no looking back for him. I dont think selfishness is a virtue and Jagya became selfish for many people instead of for his family only. He had that authoritarian streak in him due to his political innings and also due to his genes. And he has that bloodline in him which both Ganga and Anandi dont have. Of course dadisa is unique. She balanced things when she wanted to.She was ruthless not out of malice but due to her beliefs. Both Jagya and dadisa dealt with Mangala the same way. Not out of malice but due to their beliefs. And Jagya exhibited love towards mannu just the way dadisa did to Basant though they are not sons in the real sense.
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Dsa is what she is because a small girl triggered the need to question the traditions and establishment.
That little girl never stopped questioning her despite obeying every order of the old lady.

When finally the child's life was in ruins because of her obedience to this lady even then the child never pointed finger at her despite being in a position to question her and punish her.

These are things which played a big role in the old lady's life.

So the question of Anandi carrying on the legacy of Dsa doesn't arise at all when in fact it was Dsa who carried on what Anandi has done till the time she got married and shifted to Udaipur.

Dsa has many virtues to her credit one of which is the way she tried to set right every wrong thing she did.

Finally Dsa was the one who was endorsing Anandi's line of thinking.

If Anandi died instead of Dsa she would have carried on what Anandi had been doing through SN just like she carried on with the school work when Anandi left to Udaipur.

Anandi is creating a legacy and that will be carried on by others be it her children Sarita Pooja and who knows even Harki may be one of them.


Dadisa embraced Anandi's idealogy and put it into practice in her own way and not the other way round.
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Dsa's life was just not limited to Anandi's line sight. That was only one part of her life, and not her complete life.

Dsa lived a much bigger picture. She ran a family comprising of two sons, two DILs, and grandchildren much before Anandi came into her life. And continued with the same even after Anandi moved out. She never needed anyone to run her life for her.

Dsa had a vast social living, where she dealt with society, relatives, sambdhis, culture, traditions, and what not. Her social dealings were in much broader picture.

She was visionary and had a great art of keeping her family glued together. Earlier she did that using atrocities and later through conviction and tact.

She lived for her family (to which Anandi was also a part of).

One can say, Anandi is a subset of Dsa, not the other way round.

Dsa always had a life of her own independent of Anandi and her school of thoughts, while for Anandi, Dsa was a clutch on whose support she survived.

I am happy Cvs created a character like Dsa. She was impressive throughout the eight years. Both in her ruthless avatar as well as in her changed avataar. She was indeed back bone of BV.



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The fact remains that Dsa needed Anandi to change her line of thought.
She realised that the girl was right all along and she was the one who was in the wrong.

What the girl knew instinctively as wrong and kept raising her voice against these atrocities Dsa realised after ruining a lot of lives in her family and her samdhi's families too.

Anandi had been the persistent voice of reason in that lady's life .She saw merit in that reason only after her ladesar rejected everything that she represented.

It was Anandi's unquestioningsupport which made the lady change her ways

It was Dsa who used to run to Anandi with her problems and not the other way round.

Dsa was right when she said if it had not been for Anandi she would have been a frog in the well.

If it had not been for this girl's entry into her life the old lady would have been nothing more than a more ethical version of Akheraj subduing people with her bullying ways showing off her wealth in front of her humble samdhis presiding child marriages propogating the myth about male superiority and what not.

The lady is what she is because of Anandi.

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Leavesandwaves that topic is not allowing to post my reply.
Hence posting it here.

Anandi had created a legacy herself which will be carried on by not just her children but who ever was influenced by her thoughts or actions.

All the things that Dsa had been doing till the time she died were in fact started by Anandi.

Anandi's staunch opponent turned into someone who endorsed Anandi's thoughts and acts.


So don't understand what legacy which you are talking about?

If it is about Dsa's wealth and property Anandi has never needed that neither do her kids need it. Anandi who taught women about financial self sufficiency and showed them how to earn money she can very well do that for herself.

Anandi has her own identity in Jaitser village which is independent of her Singh family connection.
They made Anandi their sarpanch on the strength of her own contribution to the village.

It is Dsa's wish that Anandi be born as her daughter in the next life that says how much Dsa wanted Anandi to be part of her life.

Anandi is there in BH because of her love for the old lady and not for any other reason.

Looks like Anandi will never be stepping into BH again.She left BH at the same time as Dsa.






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