Blast from the Past Thread #30 **The Finale... Arnav Khushi Hamesha** - Page 11

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Posted: 9 years ago
Captainji is holidaying Kizh!
Ladka, ladki together.. you see we have grown greedy over the years... ye dil maange more.. dil hain ki mantha nahin...dil tho pagal hain.. we can come up with a chain looking like a string of BW titles.. but true in this case! 😊

On another note, its good that this thread is in incipient stages.. many pages to be filled up...a never ending saga..😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
Agree Indu, lots to talk about. We are not done yet. Won't be ... so soon. These are just intermissions. 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

Agree Indu, lots to talk about. We are not done yet. Won't be ... so soon. These are just intermissions. 😊

Hum aathey hai, break ke baad😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
hello all,

good to see bahut posts after so long.

yes i notice vms are back again... maybe i should push my luck and try to upload on yt again... or maybe not. hate being star plus's unpaid stooge. all this talk of the jodi, my dil won't settle for anything less than at least another long set of episodes about one arnav singh raizada and one khushi kumari gupta both extraordinarily strange and sexy.


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Posted: 9 years ago
thanks indi
for that edit...of irresistible Bimari called asr.. 😆 and KKG

yes, nothing less but a set of epis is what would appease us..
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Posted: 9 years ago
what cheek
episode 343



"see how she leans her cheek upon her hand.
o, that i were a glove upon that hand
that i might touch that cheek!"
~ shakespeare, romeo and juliet ~

romeo might have pined from a distance upon seeing his love and wishing to touch her on her tender cheek, arnav singh raizada was having none of all that sighing from afar though. he made sure he got some time alone with her. and he went near. very very ear.

in an episode where practically everything felt infantile, just a few minutes sparkled with a fabulous portrayal of desire. nothing silly or coy about it. an adult, deep, breath stopping, ear heating feeling between a man and a woman. i don't think television has ever seen such a keen delineation of this elemental thing. i at least haven't.

can't remember if ever i have been in a state watching a man and a woman just messing about, getting closer, playing like kittens, a stalking of big cats in their body language. and also a terribly deep emotion. which adds something ethereal, innocent, pristine to this voluptuous longing, this assault of needing.

khushi was a giggly girl or trying to be one, but arnav singh raizada wouldn't let her be, his every move called out to the woman in her, the one who wants, oh so wants him.

why i wonder, must women's desire for their men be so carefully guarded. what would happen if she showed her feelings? will society fall apart?

they had haldi, paste of turmeric, wheat, and more all over their body. that in itself added a layer, a sensuality... then he started wanting to be where a grown man with a wife would want to be... in her arms, close to her... perhaps all this putting of turmeric paste on both their bodies had aroused him, he not too concerned with the meaning of the ritual, just watching her rapt as she got haldi all over.

she was disconcerted, so she hid behind explanations of customs... but would he let her be?

oh no... say, first you have to put the paste on the feet then the...
and he'll cut in with the huskiest, most intimate murmur of, "jaanta hoon... pehle pair..."

hey hey heyheyhey will the music go and my breath will start grazing against my epiglottis. the whole tione of the scene will change in an instant.

"phir haath... phir kandhe (voice opening out and falling away to a whisper even as my stomach crashed to my toes) phir sar..."

i know... first the feet... then the hands... then shoulders... then head...

she had to turn away then, the growing need and desire too hard to handle

he lifted his gaze and looked at her... something so terribly beautifully grown up in that gaze. really, not too many actors put in this level of emotion and interpretation for a tv hero role.

she had to play with him though, she turned on a mischievous smile and flicked his nose with some haldi that she had taken off her body.

a touch of haldi... a waiting... an arousal... khushi can't deny it...

again she turned and walked away. a question in his gaze... and he followed her. there was something timeless i felt about that walk of him toward her.. drawn and at the same time in command of the moment... choosing to go to her.



i made a vm once which had the words, dil tha sufie... hum chal diye... the heart was sufi and i walked on toward what i had to. words to that effect. i had laid the words over this sequence.



that touching of her back with the back of his fingers, smearing her with haldi. almost intoxicated the look on his face. our television won't allow conventional gestures of desire to be presented, but necessity can be the mother of fab invention. who'd have thought you could do so much with just two people, fully clothed and a bit of haldi paste. the four poster bed suggested intimacy and beauty but gosh the room was supremely pink and tacky... and yet, nothing mattered, just the feeling they were lost in and you were slowly drowning in.





when he walked almost into her as she backed away, a thrill shot through the frame, through you. and then that bending down of the face, a cheek going closer closer making... contact. and a girl almost taken by that touch. would he stop even then? no, again, on the other side... it's only cheeks rubbing, you think, and a part of you knows, there is nothing "only" about it... it's sublime absolute love making. right there.






he played with her, he said he can't see her face behind all the haldi... so he was following the custom of not seeing the ride post haldi. when she said h had loads of turmeric on him too, he disconcerted her totally with that sexy, kissne lagaya, who put it.




i loved this shot that started right on top and closed in.. just look at them in each other's arms, melding. in sync.

she kept on talking about doing the right thing, her eyes kept on saying something else, her body arched toward him, her breath was scattered.

that desire. that was all.





thoughts

~ how foolish to they believe the viewer is?

~ so if you have turmeric on your face no one can recognise you? hawk eye dadi didn't see garima beyond the thin layer of yellow, and just in case we didn't get the point, bua ji loudly said even she wouldn't have known garima.

~ why would garima keep a picture from the past in her open cupboard within easy access and run to it and start looking at it with fear raging in her eyes the moment she sees dadi? ah, so we get the point that she was the woh aurat and also so that shyam babua gets to pry and see it all. so at last it has been decided that garima will be the bad girl and oh the rush to tell the tale. so much happened in these twenty minutes.

~ if the girl can't see the boy post haldi, what is khushi doing in asr's house and why are they all playing passing the parcel? what's going on with story telling.

~ also noticing many hints being dropped that suggest asr and khushi's wedding may not go through... earlier he'd spoken of how if he lets go of her hand he won't hold it again. this episode, something about "bharosa nahin hai mujh pe..." don't you have faith in me. i wish serials would get out of the messiness of constant trp battle, never quite sure where they are headed.

never mind.. look at that yellow smeared cheek.




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up the the garden path
episode 344



for once i completely identified with shyam. he had been perplexed by what was going on with garima, he was spying around trying to catch the drift. and he had this glazed look in his eyes as if he understood nothing, till at last he did as dadi named the "woh aurat."

her name was none other that... garima.

i am utterly perplexed, trying to make sense of what i am seeing, convinced there was a "woh story" and it certainly did not lead to the marriage of asr and khushi a few episodes down.

"woh story" had a separation between the two on the cards. there are just too many hint hints of that for it all to have meant nothing.

inbhestigasson kareka padi, i aver and check a few things.

true, jainesh is still lead writer, but by the time wedding takes place, ved raj is back on the helm. this whole period seems to be a quick wrap up that will actually bid farewell to a man and a woman: jainesh the writer and dadi the outsider.

true, stories change in serials. i remember how we kept seeing nk filming everything during the wedding of payal and akash including jijaji's lecherous moves and then that not featuring at all in any part of story telling.

but this time here there were not only dialogues that spell trouble, there was completely puzzling action.

why would the bride come to the groom's home suddenly after haldi only to play passing the parcel? i thought they were not even supposed to meet. in fact, doesn't haldi usually happen on the day of the wedding?

so why would it happen before sangeet?

and if you remember, they suddenly decided to spring a "surprise" on the guptas on the day of haldi and hold it at their place. really? would anyone do that to the girls' family... they are totally unprepared for this.

could it be that haldi was bunged in later? after the passing the parcel shooting was done? and if so, why? its only use would have been to establish shyam's noticing of garima's discomfort and her looking at the photograph (which is why it would have to be at the guptas'... uff indi bond hello hi bye bye... this is too exciting).

following this there would be shyam's discovery of the woh aurat's name and then the "clever" mixing up of medicines so dadi catches out garima.

i had a feeling while watching haldi, they had decided only around that time to cast garima as the other woman... till then all possibilities were on the table... including khushi's own mother being the lady.

then there was that maa's garden. when did they add that in? obviously a last minute thing which is why all shots of asr and khushi together were done with doubles. khushi's double had the most unkhushi hand.


and in the scene just before that, leading up to them leaving together,
asr's hand double was a woman (or a man who likes to keep long nails unlike asr) and the girl whose face he was wiping was totally not khushi. though he, sigh, was he himself and in no mood to look ordinary.

about that getting away with khushi in the middle of a family visit... again not exactly what dulhas and dulhans do especially if they are following all the rituals properly as we are told asr has decided to.

i had a feeling the passing the parcel scene and the one in his room with him pulling her back, were taken at the same time when story was still one of separation. later other scenes in the room and the dadi finding garima scenes were edited in.

disconcerting shots of khushi holding asr's cheek, her nails red and mehendi on fingers in one shot, next shot, no nail polish, no mehendi, clearly not sanaya's fingers on his cheeks.

then the garden which failed to touch me. the story of maa and plants to pat. and then him saying exactly why he likes to garden. not once, twice... was this asr? was this ipk? we all knew by now those plants connected him to feelings deep within and his mother was the core of these emotions. why must we be told all this?

jainesh has a heavy handed way and subtlety is long gone from narrative. but to have asr tearful almost for nearly ten minutes... what were they thinking?

terribly garbled the whole thing.

as for the dialogues that so plainly spoke of them being torn asunder soon, there was: "karna padega khushi... bharosa nahin hai mujhpe?" you'll have to do it khushi, don't you have faith in me?


later:

"ret ke tarah aapke ungliyo ke beech se nikal jayenge... aur mauqa milte hi itni tezi se bhagenge ki hume aap hume dhoond nahin payenge... samjhe aap?" i'll slip away like sand between the fingers and the moment i get a chance i'll run so fast, you won't be able to find me, d'you understand?

"phir kabhi aisa kahna bhi mat kehna!" don't ever say that!

"arnav ji?"

"promise?"

later still he asked her if she trusted him.

to me, these are signs of impending mayhem not marriage.

also, khushi talks about him banging the phone down... which happened way before haldi. or did it happen just the previous evening, when haldi was not yet written in?

alas, shyam had his answer but not me. sherlock holmes or hercule poirot would definitely be needed to get to the bottom of this mystery.

all i could sense was a massive change in the entire story of ipk. and i was sure garima was not the "woh aurat" the original storyteller had in mind.

a most disturbing episode, i kept feeling yanked around, a moustache drawn on my upper lip, eyes blindfolded.


thoughts

~ barun sobti smiled as he looked down and then khushi spoke of disappearing like sand... did you see how the expression changed? gorgeous.



~ mami and bua dancing away in the background while shyam stalked garima, something crazy and cute there. "arre chaliye, nandkissore!" said mami, "arre, hello hi bye bye, kahan chale?" replied bua ji... the adversaries in a chummy mood... was a nice moment.

~ who goes and yells at someone like that after a tragedy. why is dadi written so badly? and she slapped garima? how bizarre... really a very ekta feel to all that is going on.

~ asr said, "tumhe yahan laane ka matlab hai ki hum ek ho gaye... tum aaj se meri patni ho... meri maa ki bahu." the significance of bringing you here today is that we are now one... you are my wife from today... my mother's daughter in law.

huh? asr, amnesia? this is your "legally wedded wife" remember?

something very thick and soggy in that statement, also it seems to say, the marriage won't take place.

why that "arnav" from khushi after that?

maybe i should hire shyam to crack all the puzzles.



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Episode 331


Pyaar ki dori




Masti se bhari khushiyon ki shaam
Mehendi rachegi piya ke naam
Naach uthi hai umangon ki toli
Kisiko pukare alhad pyaar ki dori

Jis dori se nikla tha nafrat ka caravaan
Us dori ko aaj milgayi pehchaan
Hichkichahat thi kabhi iske paas jaane ki
Ab haq se bandhegi ye pyaar ki dori

Mehakti mehendi mein bas gaya ek naam
Us naam ne bheje dil ko kai paigaam
Pehle se kareeb aagayi ye jodi
Ab kabhi na tootegi ye pyaar ki dori


Translation:

A happy fun-filled evening
Mehendi to be adorned in the lover's name
The estatic group has started to dance
The naughty string of love calls someone

The string from which the caravan of hate started
That string has now got its identity
There was once a hesitation to go near it
Now with a right, the string of love will get tied

A name settles in the fragrant mehendi
That name sent many messages to the heart
This pair has come closer than before
This string of love will now never be broken

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Episode 336


Mat jao




Phir kehar banke chaya zaalim zamana
Rok na saka, apnon ke aansuon ka behana
Aise waqt mein, chodkar na jao
Zara ruk jao, mat jao

Zaroorat hai mujhe tumhari, pehle se zyaada
Mujhe toot te huye dekhna, hai waqt ka iraada
Ye hone na dogi, ek baar kehdo
Meri baat maanlo, mat jao ...

Kabhi tumne bhi roka tha, maine na maana
Par tumne na roka, apna pyaar nibhaana
Aaj bhi saath rahogi, dhilasa dila do
Kuch der hi sahi, mat jao ...

Translation:

The cruel world plays havoc again
Couldn't stop the tears flowing from eyes of dear ones
At such a time, don't leave and go
Just wait, don't go ...

More than ever, I need you
Time wants to see me broken
You won't let this happen, say once
Listen to me, don't go ...

Once you too had stopped me, I didn't heed
But you never stopped standing by your love
Today too you'll be with me, convince me
Maybe just for a while, don't go ...


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Episodes 340 - 341


Yahaan bhi wahaan bhi




Ek ankahi khamoshi, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi
Kuch anthaka taakna, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi
Chaaron oar shor hai, kisine na suna
Zid sarzor hai, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi

Milne ki aas, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi
Par man mein bhadaas, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi
Chalegi kab tak, roothe rehne ki zid
Dheer dhalta jaye, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi

Jhoota hi sahi bahana kaam aaya
Gusail dilon mein pyaar bhar aaya
Zindagi ki sabse badi deal hai ye
Na gawara iska khona, yahaan bhi, wahaan bhi

Translation:

An untold silence, here too, there too
Some untired staring, here too, there too
Noise everywhere, no one has heard
Adamancy at its peak, here too, there too

A desire to meet, here too, there too
But anger within, here too, there too
How long will last, the demand to stay miffed
The resolve is dissolving, here too, there too

False it may be, but the pretense worked
The angry hearts filled up with love
Biggest deal of life, this is
It's losing not acceptable, here too, there too



Edited by DurgaS - 9 years ago

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