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Mreddy

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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: Mdwst

I never said Raman will choose shagun... He loves ishita period... He did this for ishitas happiness.. What I was trying today is only these 2 feet the baby kick .. That's the bond they share ...that's what I'm talking about .. Hope you get it now

I haven't been able to watch a single episode with complete enjoyment ever since this surrogacy started..infact the only episode I have watched once they showed that the bhoot drama was a fake is the Raman confrontation scene ( only for his acting). The talk about how Ishita will become a real/complete mother is very insulting to many parents who adopt. Both are to blame, Raman for doing it w/o her consent and then for Ishita for accepting it (I did not think she had a choice because she would lose her whole family-so I think she comprised and resigned herself to the situation). But this mahanta of Shagun and also Ishita is puke worthy, mainly her reactions of not feeling hurt seeing Shagun carrying their baby and Raman reliving the same with Shagun again...This kind of love of Raman's is very suffocating..how can he love her so much and yet the same time be so very insensitive..

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ladyprincess

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Posted: 9 years ago

#22

the blessing for romi and mihika.. is this an indication of mimi not coming back together? I am sad at this.. romi is developing a liking towards mihika as they showed in some episode recently.. they show no pov of mihika... she could have said that we are not a couple.. weird

ishita.. uff felt so bad for her.. toshi ji is pampering shagun.. ishu doesn't look very happy about it coz she could have received the same if it was her

now the surrogate mother is shagun so they are pampering her.. if it would have been someone random tab kya usko ghar pe bulate lunch pe aur nazar utarte? would raman have touched an unknown woman's tummy? I don't think so

this insecurity track seems just for a day or two.. there is this murder spoiler coming up.. too many twists..

chaddha shuru se hi suspicious sa hai.. the way he talks to his wife appears so fake.. real chaddha seems to be a dominating husband

how many lawyers will be introduced?? pathak ki degree nakli nikli kya jo chaddha aya aur ab ek nayi lawyer jo raman ki fan hone wali h.. kya ho raha h

but hats off to the writers kitna dimag laga rahe hn story me.. there is so much going on at this time

Edited by ladyprincess - 9 years ago

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Mdwst

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Posted: 9 years ago

#23

@ Mr. Reddy
When Ishu confronted Raman about shagun/ surrogacy... There was no closure.. He justified his actions saying that his love for her made her do it...he wanted her to experience the joy o motherhood,, he was bashed crazy here... Then they ridiculed the whole scene saying that ishu knew about it and it was all an act..,,then they made family accept surrogacy ... Last to last episode even mrs, iyer thanked shagun for completing her daughter and now she will know the joy of experiencing rhe whole enchilata..., now how can Ishu experience the whole process unless she carries the baby and goes thru the entire phase of pregnancy? Worst the ex wife and her husband are reliving the most precious and joyous moments that's between a husband and wife... And Which she is witnessing it...
So I'm hoping that Raman will realize the damage/ mistake he's committed.., and ishita is openly voicing it out .., which was never done before..
She even asked mihir to feel it and when she said you are lucky..,. O man that was ... Bad really bad
And as you said she has no choice ..,

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ramishi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: Mdwst
A good episode

Romika are blessed by the enunchs...so triangle starts
Toshiji asking Ishu to help cook shaguns favorite...was a bit insensitive...though Ishu might help..the hurt will definitely be there...it's just getting started...

Ishu

I felt bad when she asked ..."do u gave cravings what kinds...how is it can you explain ...and when she asked can I fell it"..,Omg it's tough or hard for any woman to go through that...it felt to me like she wants to experience it atleast through someone else...the inquisitiveness to know more...😒

Baby kicking scene

I felt really bad for Ishu...I can see the hurt, disappointment, the pain,...in her eyes...the baby kicked Shagun felt it..Raman felt it..she says. " you're lucky"...she felt happy for him, but she was deeply hurt. Ishu unable to feel the kick...strange

She even told Mihir..."why don't you feel her tummy may be the baby will kick for you

Even in the car...she kept broaching the subject...she was unable to let go...
Raman sensed it and tried to make her feel better...but the question is ..will he realize his mistake..the intensity and depth of the pain, the hurt that she will go through?... ..it's now in her head ..in her system...this will be interesting to watch...Shagun and Raman may bond due to the baby...I think thing of all scenarios here..but will remain quiet..lets c how cvs take it.

Ishu outright said she's jealous of Raman...she's slowly voicing it...she's deeply hurt...waiting for her emotional outburst ... The Feeling of Emptiness... one where she opens up to vandu and Raman overhearing it...but I highly doubt if we would get it...

Overall good ...I liked it.

@underline...I don't think he will ever realise bcoz cvs will not let him realize...and if he at all ever realises then it will be most probably after separation and leap when he will see the kid is more attached to sw and hates ishita ( my guess only).

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Mreddy

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Posted: 9 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: Mdwst
@ Mr. Reddy
When Ishu confronted Raman about shagun/ surrogacy... There was no closure.. He justified his actions saying that his love for her made her do it...he wanted her to experience the joy o motherhood,, he was bashed crazy here... Then they ridiculed the whole scene saying that ishu knew about it and it was all an act..,,then they made family accept surrogacy ... Last to last episode even mrs, iyer thanked shagun for completing her daughter and now she will know the joy of experiencing rhe whole enchilata..., now how can Ishu experience the whole process unless she carries the baby and goes thru the entire phase of pregnancy? Worst the ex wife and her husband are reliving the most precious and joyous moments that's between a husband and wife... And Which she is witnessing it...
So I'm hoping that Raman will realize the damage/ mistake he's committed.., and ishita is openly voicing it out .., which was never done before..
She even asked mihir to feel it and when she said you are lucky..,. O man that was ... Bad really bad
And as you said she has no choice ..,

Hi,

I am Mrs and from Philadelphia. Indeed there was no closure for the surrogacy crap..and I also doubt if he will realize his mistake of doing it without her consent..The Cvs will not make him realize that..since he mouthed that Ishita is so passionate about this baby etc and wants it so much that she is so happy that Shagun is here etc. They have absolved him of that mistake and now it is all for Ishita's happiness. One thing I do not understand is him and others saying he did it for Ishita's happiness. Does it mean he does not want the baby as much..it is ok with if the baby does not happen...it is as if he is doing her a favor or gifting her something..Shouldn't it be for both of them, both the parents wanting to having the baby just as much for their collective happiness. In a way you are guilting the partner into accepting it. How does it remove the infertile tag..kind of puzzled here - is it just having a biological kid and it is not necessary to carry the baby in your womb..Since she has fertile eggs, she was never a baanj then..The CVs won't let go of this as there is a lot of scope for drama..delivering the baby..taking care of the infant as it is used to the mother..here as you said Raman and Shagun will bond in that the baby will recognize Shagun touch and voice and Raman will be majboor and will let the baby be with Shagun for a while atleast. He has not thought it through and Ishita will have to bear the consequences of his actions, the pain/happiness.

Just rambling..don't know if I made any sense. I liked gray Shagun..Anita as an actress was good at it. She is not impressive as black/white. That range in acting is not there.

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Mdwst

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Posted: 9 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Mreddy

Hi,
I am Mrs and from Philadelphia. Indeed there was no closure for the surrogacy crap..and I also doubt if he will realize his mistake of doing it without her consent..The Cvs will not make him realize that..since he mouthed that Ishita is so passionate about this baby etc and wants it so much that she is so happy that Shagun is here etc. They have absolved him of that mistake and now it is all for Ishita's happiness. One thing I do not understand is him and others saying he did it for Ishita's happiness. Does it mean he does not want the baby as much..it is ok with if the baby does not happen...it is as if he is doing her a favor or gifting her something..Shouldn't it be for both of them, both the parents wanting to having the baby just as much for their collective happiness. In a way you are guilting the partner into accepting it. How does it remove the infertile tag..kind of puzzled here - is it just having a biological kid and it is not necessary to carry the baby in your womb..Since she has fertile eggs, she was never a baanj then..The CVs won't let go of this as there is a lot of scope for drama..delivering the baby..taking care of the infant as it is used to the mother..here as you said Raman and Shagun will bond in that the baby will recognize Shagun touch and voice and Raman will be majboor and will let the baby be with Shagun for a while atleast. He has not thought it through and Ishita will have to bear the consequences of his actions, the pain/happiness.

Just rambling..don't know if I made any sense. I liked gray Shagun..Anita as an actress was good at it. She is not impressive as black/white. That range in acting is not there.

Hi. Im extremely sorry..i did not realize it that I had typed Mr.reddy instead of mreddy...I'm extremely sorry...I re watched it a couple of times ...as you said...cvs will nit bring in the realization...he said ishita is happy to see Shagun..it was all ishita... Imo he wanted a baby with ishita to complete her as a woman in every way..that is after he gifted her the report on their wedding anniversary. He knew chances were less but did not wNt to loose the hope..he wanted to give it a try. When she lost the baby it was his guilt that made it do this..yes the baby should be for both of them..that's where I get confused too...he wants to complete her...but how is it possible if she did not go through the phase?..the surrogacy track didn't make sense...bhaanj tag...I don't think cvs thought It through...if she has fertile eggs...means she's not a bhaanj..when manoj tested her...the reports came back saying she had weak uterus...was the diagnosis changed no idea...this track has potential..but as usual it will be botched up...about bonding...I meant the intimate moments ...intimacy I'm talking here us not physical intimacy..the beautiful moments shared by the couple...during the pregnancy phase...is now shared between her husband and his ex- wife...they are reliving it...it may bring back old memories fir Shagun...may be in immediate future...but as far as Raman is concerned Shagun is a closed chapter...not in the case of Shagun. If and when Shagun delivers, there will be drama...yes Raman loves ishita a lot, she is his everything..but hiw will this be handled...I have no idea... As you said Raman has not thought it through...yes ishita will have to bear it.

Hope I made sense...

Ok here's what I think...Raman has already experienced it all...he wants ishita to experience it...but with surrogacy it's not happening...

Edited by Mdwst - 9 years ago

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Sheema

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Posted: 9 years ago

#27

Great to read @mreddy and Mdwst pov ... So eloquently put together . I totally agree with both of you . The track is not logically written or never given enough thought , the kind of thought which a good writer gives to live the character her/himself , it was TRP driven , compromised and adjusted in so many ways that it all became a hotch potch. These soap writers unfortunately lack the creativity ( I apologise for being blunt ) any good writer, novelist or even cinema writer would have done a better job. Even if ISHRA decided to go for surrogacy they should have shown it properly , logically and with utmost sensitivity , there is nothing wrong with couple going for it , some people do some don't . Having said that , YHM is a pure star plus/Balaji fictional show , most audiences watch it for time pass, hot chemistry physics and biology of leads, they don't care or go in the details of creativity or logic, or rationality . Very few want that kind of stuff and unfortunately those few have to look somewhere for the creative aspect of dramas . Indian TV has a long way to go ... as long as TRP hungry channels are around I don't see Amy change .

For the time being let's talk to each other and say " Aisa hota toh jaisa hota , aur waisa hota toh Kaisa hota " 🤣

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Mdwst

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Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: infinity00
Great to read @mreddy and Mdwst pov ... So eloquently put together . I totally agree with both of you . The track is not logically written or never given enough thought , the kind of thought which a good writer gives to live the character her/himself , it was TRP driven , compromised and adjusted in so many ways that it all became a hotch potch. These soap writers unfortunately lack the creativity ( I apologise for being blunt ) any good writer, novelist or even cinema writer would have done a better job. Even if ISHRA decided to go for surrogacy they should have shown it properly , logically and with utmost sensitivity , there is nothing wrong with couple going for it , some people do some don't . Having said that , YHM is a pure star plus/Balaji fictional show , most audiences watch it for time pass, hot chemistry physics and biology of leads, they don't care or go in the details of creativity or logic, or rationality . Very few want that kind of stuff and unfortunately those few have to look somewhere for the creative aspect of dramas . Indian TV has a long way to go ... as long as TRP hungry channels are around I don't see Amy change .
For the time being let's talk to each other and say " Aisa hota toh jaisa hota , aur waisa hota toh Kaisa hota "🤣

Dang you were blunt., yes as you said It's trp driven. It is adjusted to fit characters/ favorites. Sensitivity ...cvs are like who what how when...

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lakshmi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: 3fra

I don't know why people always look to empty side to glass I like raman feeling ishita pain understand her by looking to her face try to make her happy , sick mentality people always thing raman will chose apshagun over ishita for baby raman want this baby for ishita for her happiness , in beginning he was concerned for apshagun shagun only for baby as it's ishita happiness but now he concerned for ishita only

well said dear

i loved it

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