Questions to SPK CVs: who was the real reformer??

Hey guys! I was just roaming around the forum, and read many articles which expressed each of the authors POV. so now I wanna say something...

Nice POV..

Originally posted by: saveeta24

Nice POV..

Karn a complex character and who always have a conflict between his mind and heart but here nothing like that is shown in the show.. The different shades in his persona was kinda the forte of this character..

Sadly the way Karn is being portrayed in the show its a disaster ..Annoying..ill-mannered ..no respect for elders and the worst he is shown as a ''Yes my master" [Dury]i will follow you and fight with anyone for you..Pathetic...

Utkarsh naithani in the process to show karn as a Hero has butchered the character left right center with his daily soap fiction scenarios ..End result Karn has become the weakest character of the show who just bows to all his so called friend Dury commands..A fictitious karn not the Mytho one.

Forget about changing the society all Karn will do now is fight with whoever will challenge or be in the path of his master Dury..As per precap it seems he won't spare Shri krishnaji also for his blind loyalty..

It looks like this karn will utilize all his skills as a warrior just for a friend who is just using him as weapon for his own selfish need...

karn who is the focus in this show but in the making him a glory ..hero its turning out to be a big let down ..Anyways thats what happen when the writer is trying to be more smarter than Ved Vyas with his bollywood scripts for a Mytho..

At last the real reformer is coming Krishnaji and I hope he does not butcher Krishnaji /Arjun friendship just like K/D one...

Agree with you 100% aanvi. They have butchered karna so badly.In an attempt to make karna a hero they have completely destroyed him.As saveeta said, they must have shown karna's head and heart at war.His inner conscience that knew he was doing something wrong and his heart that wanted to support a friend who always stood up for him. And they destroyed karna-duryodhana friendship and made it appear as if it dury befriended karna only for his own benefits which is far from true.And now drupad asking for a son AND DAUGHTER from yaja and upayaja.A son to kill drona and avenge his insult and a daughter who will cause the 'vinash' of hastinapur.Like when did this happen? As far as i know drupad never asked for a daughter.
This serial has seriously ruined the entire of vyasa's mahabharata and all its characters so badly.I really hope they do not make arjun and krishna villains to focus on a heroic karna.
Sorry,i never saw star mahabharat so i do not know about it but nowadays most of the historic and mytho shows have purely turned fictious like jodha akbar, one of my favourite shows at a time,maharana pratap and now SPK. If they cannot really stick to the original facts then why do they make these shows ,in the first place?That's what i don't understand.
And yes, the only real reformers of mahabharata were arjun, krishnaji and krishnaa ,undoubtedly.

Originally posted by: ramya06

Agree with you 100% aanvi. They have butchered karna so badly.In an attempt to make karna a hero they have completely destroyed him.As saveeta said, they must have shown karna's head and heart at war.His inner conscience that knew he was doing something wrong and his heart that wanted to support a friend who always stood up for him. And they destroyed karna-duryodhana friendship and made it appear as if it dury befriended karna only for his own benefits which is far from true.And now drupad asking for a son AND DAUGHTER from yaja and upayaja.A son to kill drona and avenge his insult and a daughter who will cause the 'vinash' of hastinapur.Like when did this happen? As far as i know drupad never asked for a daughter.
This serial has seriously ruined the entire of vyasa's mahabharata and all its characters so badly.I really hope they do not make arjun and krishna villains to focus on a heroic karna.
Sorry,i never saw star mahabharat so i do not know about it but nowadays most of the historic and mytho shows have purely turned fictious like jodha akbar, one of my favourite shows at a time,maharana pratap and now SPK. If they cannot really stick to the original facts then why do they make these shows ,in the first place?That's what i don't understand.
And yes, the only real reformers of mahabharata were arjun, krishnaji and krishnaa ,undoubtedly.

@ aanvi98 ya pointed out right reg droupadi .how makers hell bent to show before hand she is the vinash for kuru clan and wat spl rivelry drupad had with them .in fact thy are defeated by him and arjun who surrendered him to dron .so he impressed by arjun and make him Sil he wanted drou .nt destruction of kuru clan .it is destiny and planned by God .

why spk not show any thing in normal and related to epic ..everything filmy .over dramatic .

i agree with you, this sony CVYAS of SPK, are trying to rewrite Mahabharat and karn's role in it completely.😕

As now all of you know, that I love Karna.So, want to share some of my opinions.
Karna is not at all a reformer,neither he want to be a reformer.
Karna is a simple human being with some noble qualities.
From childhood, he have a passion for Archery.He wanted to be a archer, but because of social system which was not possible.
But he didn't give up, he tried & tried.Faced rejection & then told lie to Guru Parshuram, & then after after a lot of hard work, he achieved what he want.
He also got a curse in this process.
Then, another struggle begin, we want people to appreciate his skill.
In this whole process, he became competitive.
then, his friendship with Duryodhan.
Duryodhan appreciated his skill, made him the king of Anga.
& Karna entered into politics.
most importantly into a chakrabyuha.
He lead a life in his way, He has faults, yet he is the grestest Danveer.
Karna's life is a journey start from zero, then achievement.
I will be happy, if they showed the real fact in the show.
I love Karna with all his faults.

Lord Krishna was the real reformer

And if we are calling Draupadi as a reformer, then Shakuni should also be called as a reformer as Shakuni was the real reason for the war to happen and he always used to fuel the Kauravas against the Pandavas. Shakuni had vowed destruction of Hastinapur and Draupadi was born so that she could destroy Hastinapur and both of them were the main reasons for the war

Karna was no way a reformer..he did not wanted to do so also...but his legend is one of the main issue to reform our society...he was the ist man who stood against caste system...he asked for equalism...he stood for suta caste..despite of being a commoner he ask for he same respect like a privilege caste ppl...and unfortunately his effort hurted the privilege caste ppl who wrote the Mb and he became a antihero...but in modern democratic world his ideology is very much well accepted... 😛

And that is a very wrong concept that women in ancient India was in worst situation...infact they were in much better position at that time than now...in india the position of women detoriated after 6th century..most of the time Hindu religion suffer from one of its main trait and that is caste system...if lord Krishna ,arjuna and draupadi really reformed the society then no other religion needed to be appeared on the earth...but that actually did not happened..

Ved vayas himself never said that even lord Krishna born to reform the society...he said lord Krishna born to cleanse the khastriya race on earth...becoz khatriyas were worrier by profession and nature...they knew the usage many lethal weapons...they were very proud and jealous..on the other hand kaliyug is a era of evil...it is said that kaliyug will stay on earth for 36k years...and in this yug god can not appear before the kalki avatar...so too much no of khastriyas on earth may harm the whole earth ...so kW was an elimination process before entering kaliyug...in kW almost 40lacs ppl from around the globe were killed...we can understand what was the huge no of the human population for that period time was killed within a war...not only that as a consequence lord's own race too was evicted from the earth...and all the Mb characters were born to provoke or participate in the war...Arjun and drau were the weapon from pandavas side and karna dury was the weapon from kaurava side to provoke that war...becoz a war can not be provoked by one sided effort...active participation from both the sides were equally needed...mb is not s story of dharma vs adharma. .actually 40lacs lives were too costly to establish a 36 years glorious gatha...it had happened for some other long term benefit...that is not a story on all goody goody happy ending like star Mb...it the story of human faults and their consequences...in Mb kauravas lost their everything ... pandavas too lost many things...and that is the truth...war never give anything to anybody ...it give only pain and frustration..and writer wanted to show that truth by his story...changing the human mentality by giving some practical lesson to them...and that is one of the biggest way of reforming the society.

So do not go with the fact ke only Arjun and draupadi was born to help lord...each n every character in was born to help lord to reform the world... 😊 😊