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Now I'm not even going to try and guess what Usha's educational background is or how she was raised as a kid. There are an infinite number of scenarios and for me to list them all out and build my hypothesis.. it's irrational.

What I am going to do however, is give you a generic understanding of why Usha's mentality is the way that it is.

We know for a fact that the Sarna's belong to a Sikh background. But this does not mean that there cannot be influence brought over from other cultures especially in a diverse country like India. Popular religions and their scriptural teachings are bound to cross over or will be interacted in some shape or form.

If Usha had come into contact with any ancient Hindu dharmic text or was taught any of the moral teachings from these texts, then her subservient outlook on how a woman should perform is not unfathomable.

Most of these dharmic texts diminished a woman's role to such an extent that they might as well be non-existent. The women are ordered to have no mental agency and are only to act as per the wishes of the man that they are serving under. Pre-marriage, they must answer to their fathers; after marriage to their husbands and in old age, to their sons. Apart from these three facts, a woman had no existence. Her entire life is dictated by a man and she must live for a man. Her purpose was to bear male sons and if she failed to do so, she will be punished. If she looked at any man apart from her husband which could be assumed as being provocative, then she would be accused of adultery and punished.

In short, she was nothing but flesh and bones to be used at the man's disposal.

This type of early dharmic text ideology falls in line Usha's ideology on how a wife should behave. Her attitude and behavior with Manohar is similar to the extent that she obeys his every will and endures his abuse without any resistance. But she differs from the submissive ideology where she has recently begun to ask her husband questions and "taunt" him in regards to their new bahu.

In the more recent dharmic texts, women have been written as having more mental agencies and autonomy over their lives, but it is always open to being manipulated into a sexual manner. In most cases, the woman is depicted as being a seductress or throwing her body around without any care. That she is controlled by her passions more than she is by her mind and rationale.

This new ideology again falls in line with Usha's perspective on what she sees as being the "modern girl". To her, a modern girl is someone who is sexually active, does not invest time in unifying relationships, is incredibly independent and outspoken, does not have respect for the centuries old faith and tradition etc.

To her, Twinkle is everything that Usha is not. Twinkle is completely the opposite of who Usha is and what she stands for. There is a huge generational gap, ethical gap, and mental gap between the two women where Twinkle is able to understand Usha's position and her beliefs and values but Usha is unwilling to invest the time to learn Twinkle's.

Usha is a woman who believes in the ways of the old times because they have worked "well" in their favor. Women who do as they are told, who do not step out of their maryada, who follow in the steps of their ancestors, are the type that Usha believes in and in some case wants Twinkle to be as well. She is unable to grasp that just because the future is unpredictable, that does not mean that finding haven in the past is a wise choice. You can only move on in life if you take the initiative to face the unknown.

Usha wanting to claim Alisha as her daughter-in-law was a HUGE step taken by her albeit it was the wrong one. She had finally acted on her own but it was a complete failure. For right now, Usha is acting but in a highly regressive manner. She is not bringing happiness to her son by bringing such negativity into his life.

If Usha is so adamant on fulfilling her dharma then she should realize that her dharma is towards her husband - Manohar - not her son. Yes, she has a duty towards Kunj as well, but her duty as a mother should not impede on Twinkle's duty as a wife. Now that Kunj has gotten married, it is Twinkle's right to fulfill her dharma in whichever way she chooses.

Usha really needs to let go of these regressive ideologies that she may have obtained from these dharmic texts and find a new perspective where she can learn how to balance her dharma as a wife but also her dharma as a woman.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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another bang on post 👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I disagree to some points like where you mentioned that hindu dharmic texts have mentioned an inferior role to hindu women. It's not true it's infact false. The oldest hindu texts gave a woman more respect than any other religion could ever give. But with time and with the coming of Kalyuga and crime women were snatched the devi status that they truly had during the start and they are devis of mere name now. Hindu religion is the oldest religion dear and it is the most respecting religion towards woman. The Shakti is the origin of the religion whom all the Gods pray including the supreme trio and any God is nothing without his shakti. But jaise jaise samay bita yeh haalat girls ki insaan ne ki and people are not influenced by any dharmic text.
Anyways dear it's my opinion I am sorry if you were hurt.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Abhiya-

I disagree to some points like where you mentioned that hindu dharmic texts have mentioned an inferior role to hindu women. It's not true it's infact false. The oldest hindu texts gave a woman more respect than any other religion could ever give. But with time and with the coming of Kalyuga and crime women were snatched the devi status that they truly had during the start and they are devis of mere name now. Hindu religion is the oldest religion dear and it is the most respecting religion towards woman. The Shakti is the origin of the religion whom all the Gods pray including the supreme trio and any God is nothing without his shakti. But jaise jaise samay bita yeh haalat girls ki insaan ne ki and people are not influenced by any dharmic text.

Anyways dear it's my opinion I am sorry if you were hurt.


If that is the case, then can you please direct me to some of the texts that promote this? I would absolutely love to read them and have my viewpoint be proved wrong. The basis for which I stated all this is the various scholarly articles that I have read that prescribe the treatment of women in the olden days, texts and epics. One of the major texts that I had in mind while writing my piece on Usha is the "Manusmrti" where some of the translated pieces that I have read have been absolutely horrifying in their statements of how a woman should act.

And please, don't apologize. In fact, I am more than happy to have my viewpoints be countered and actually develop a whole rounded idea on the topic; especially if the topic is concerning women.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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did you research? 😆

Superb post as usual
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I need to come back and read this entire post, when I'm more awake so I can comment entirely :)
But I managed to read a bit, and I just wanted to comment- about the Sarna family- they aren't a sikh family. None of the three families in TEI. From what they've shown, all all three are Hindu punjabi families based in Amritsar. Many Hindu punjabis go to gurdwaras often, even some non punjabi Hindus do. So which religion they belonged to seemed confusing because they are shown imbibing both, but truth is some Hindus and Sikhs do imbibe both but ultimately are of their own religion. I hope I explained this coherently. Sarnas are Hindus bc of the whole mata ki chowki and of course the Twinj wedding which was a Hindu shaadi.
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Great postGurleen👏Loved the way you dissected Usha's character...I'm not getting into the religious aspects but speaking from a Indian cultural view, I can understand Usha's outdated views about family culture. Usha is from the older generations value systems where a wife's identity is through the husband and son... She's scared that even one of the rituals done wrongly would bring bad luck to the family. She's steeped in superstitions.

Leela on the other hand practises all cultural norms but has embraced modern values too ...She lives in the best of two worlds.I'm so glad that Leela worked her way in a man's world and climbed the ladder of success...It would not have been a easy ride...sheer toil, sweat and tears... Even now it's only a handful of Indian women successful entrepreneurs who have made it to the top. Cultural norms and religious practices have shaped women's personalities for a long time.
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very well thought of article Gurleen. What you say, is how things have panned out over time. Initially it was a matriarchal society that gave way to a male dominated one and that has also been observed across the world where despite how much we stand for women's lib some things don't change.

But now times have changed a lot in India, with women becoming more independent fueled by financial independence and moving away from homes there by breaking the shackles of tradition and control by the men of their lives aka fathers, boyfriends and know it alls. But thats just at the surface level. The traditionality of nurturer and protector are far too ingrained in the psyche of gender.

Is it a good thing or not depends on which side of the fence one is !

Women like usha who have been home bound and whose world revolves around their family and following what they have been traditionally brought up thinking cannot adapt at the same pace. So to her Twinkle is 'modern' and twinkle thinks she has to be "'sanskari"' both terms which connote different things but are binding in how u r percieved... But kunj is evolved enough and comfortable with an equal relationship and that thinking is a step forward for men. Once not bound by pandering the male ego that cannot take a woman getting ahead, women feel free to be their own person.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmaanixx


If that is the case, then can you please direct me to some of the texts that promote this? I would absolutely love to read them and have my viewpoint be proved wrong. The basis for which I stated all this is the various scholarly articles that I have read that prescribe the treatment of women in the olden days, texts and epics. One of the major texts that I had in mind while writing my piece on Usha is the "Manusmrti" where some of the translated pieces that I have read have been absolutely horrifying in their statements of how a woman should act.

And please, don't apologize. In fact, I am more than happy to have my viewpoints be countered and actually develop a whole rounded idea on the topic; especially if the topic is concerning women.

Rig Veda is the best text that can be qouted to prove that woman have more respect than man in hinduism. The origin of everything in this world is considered to be from a Devi and a man is nothing without a woman
It is a hymn from Devi Sukta (Rig Veda)
I is a woman here
I, verily, myself announce and utter the word that gods and men alike shall welcome.
I make the man I love exceeding mighty, make him nourished, a sage, and one who knows Brahman.
I bend the bow for Rudra that his arrow may strike and slay the hater of devotion.
I rouse and order battle for the people, I created Earth and Heaven and reside as their inner controller.

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