Soldiers killing is moral?

I wanna to start my debate with a question

Is joining army a deed towards patriotism or just another profession?

All soldiers killing enemy on war front moral or 👏 deed?

Why cannot countires live with investing resources to bring law and orde within county rather then prepairing for wars?

Killing human being for any reason, say in war justified?

Developing country adhering world peace focus on growth/world peace or making the nation safe by investing on war fighting capabilities?

Originally posted by: raj5000

I wanna to start my debate with a question

Is joining army a deed towards patriotism or just another profession? Both I think but more bec'se of Patriotism.

All soldiers killing enemy on war front moral or 👏 deed? In a war, you have to kill the enemy bec'se if you don't..he'll. You'll be foolish to think about such things in war...Bhagwan Shri Krishna ne bhi yahi kahaa hai Gita mein.

Why cannot countires live with investing resources to bring law and orde within county rather then prepairing for wars? Apples to oranges, Internal and External security both are equally important issues and neither should be ignored.

Killing human being for any reason, say in war justified? YES...it is WAR for godsake...koi picnic nahin hai. Saamne dushman gale lagaane ke liye nahin betha hai.

Developing country adhering world peace focus on growth/world peace or making the nation safe by investing on war fighting capabilities? Peace can not prevail without force, a national can not progress if its borders are not secure.

Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Agree wth Deepak here 😛

Raj if you read Arms & the man of Bernard Shaw..he claims the army is a profession.

My first hand experience..peopel in hills and from punjab area admires Army..a fauji is a shaan of their village. Just in my family 80% is in forces. And even our kids are encouraged by the parents to join Army/forces. The place i come from was more in Army out of all three forces...that too by choice. Kids going to IMA/NDA is a big deal for their family. Selection for them is not easy too. i know the kids who due to some physical were unable to join forces, always feel bad about it. And regret it seriously. Although they are succesful and very well off then any Army personnel but still they have a regret f not able to join the forces.

Now if you are securing border adn working for country's integrety, then killing is moral. You cannot have outsiders come and ruin our nation. India never produced a Hitler so has not claimed any land or has imposed any war to other country. India has always been defensive.

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

Agree wth Deepak here 😛

Raj if you read Arms & the man of Bernard Shaw..he claims the army is a profession.

My first hand experience..peopel in hills and from punjab area admires Army..a fauji is a shaan of their village. Just in my family 80% is in forces. And even our kids are encouraged by the parents to join Army/forces. The place i come from was more in Army out of all three forces...that too by choice. Kids going to IMA/NDA is a big deal for their family. Selection for them is not easy too. i know the kids who due to some physical were unable to join forces, always feel bad about it. And regret it seriously. Although they are succesful and very well off then any Army personnel but still they have a regret f not able to join the forces.

Now if you are securing border adn working for country's integrety, then killing is moral. You cannot have outsiders come and ruin our nation. India never produced a Hitler so has not claimed any land or has imposed any war to other country. India has always been defensive.

Originally posted by: raj5000

I wanna to start my debate with a question

Is joining army a deed towards patriotism or just another profession?

Patriortism, you can have 1000 different proffessions, but this one takes patriotism to join

All soldiers killing enemy on war front moral or 👏 deed?

Without any question

Why cannot countires live with investing resources to bring law and orde within county rather then prepairing for wars?

Totally irrelevant to the topic being discussed here, those resources that you talk about come from another bucket, you are talking about internal security in this point and the thread is about external security

Killing human being for any reason, say in war justified?

In war it is justified, that is why favouring a war should be done after some thought, not based upon an emotion

Developing country adhering world peace focus on growth/world peace or making the nation safe by investing on war fighting capabilities?

world peace belongs in a beauty contest, can we please leave it there😉

Originally posted by: raj5000

I wanna to start my debate with a question

Is joining army a deed towards patriotism or just another profession? For some it is profession and some patriotism. I have seen only sons of Defence officers who could have chosen to go abroad for higher studies or joined medical profession. joined NDA and chose regiment artillery of Army and died fighting with terrorists from across the border. A family friend who was a pilot from NDA died in mig crash, who chose to join Air Force to protect country. Then there were also some who joined Army only because their father was a high official in Army and he was not getting accepted anywhere. There are guys from poor families who joins defence services to provide for their family because it is a govt. job with regular income and pension. Patriotism is last thing on their mind. We can't blame them.

All soldiers killing enemy on war front moral or 👏 deed? It depends. In a war the person from opposite camp is your enemy and you need to do your best to stop him from entering your country. Killing the opponent in that case is a noble act, provoked or unprovoked. But in other cases it is high time to review Army killings and rapes which takes place on a regular basis. For eg: now in Iraq.

Why cannot countires live with investing resources to bring law and order within county rather then prepairing for wars? It is only possible if everyone starts thinking alike, people stop hatred and stop thoughts of conquering someone else's land. Is that possible? No. so as long as we live in this real world😛, we need to be prepared to protect our country. To maintain law and order, we need to be secure.

Killing human being for any reason, say in war justified? Answered above.

Developing country adhering world peace focus on growth/world peace or making the nation safe by investing on war fighting capabilities? Think of this. We place security alarms, lock all doors, some even have licensed guns at home. All this forms part of security measures to protect our home/family and ourselves. Similar way it is necessary for a nation to secure its borders.

Originally posted by: persistence

For some, it is an act of patriotism; for others, a means to get through school. They don't have to necessarily end up in the war zone, but do have to serve the country.

I don't think soldiers enjoy war, and we have no right to shout moral or immoral for all they do for their country. It is certainly not easy to put your life on the line for your country. Neither is it a matter of right or wrong when the choice is you, your country or your enemy.

One has to be prepared for outside attacks as well. It will in turn also make for a secure law and order in the country during a time of crisis. People will know, they have little to fear. I don't like what I just wrote.... of course, when a nuclear weapon strikes, we will all be dirt.

Killing in a war (even as death penalty) Never completely justified... taking somebody's life ain't justified. But one has to make a choice at times, I guess... for survival's sake, for law's sake, for the common good.

And for your last question.... how about both? Unless we have complete trust/faith in all around us, we can't forsake developing weapons and all. As far as I know, that ain't possible. However, greater resources should be used for progressing peace.

Long reply.... haven't written for so long; I need to do my hw instead.

Later,
Persy

If war is not enjoyed, then why do take it up? Question of moral comes when they are taking human life, you don't the person on the other side of boundary why take his/her life?