22.6.15- IshRa stand tall & mad on 'Hum Bhi Kisise Kam Nahin'

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Sigh.😔 Trust CVs to trivialize a really important track. Trust them to give it a twist worse than that idiotic Mani track. To their credit, they made us laugh towards the end...but still...

I was down with viral the last couple of days and sneezing my way to glory, but my hands were itching to review last Saturday's episode, which, clearly was an eyesore. No matter how MUCH I try and understand Ishita's point of view to justify her act of putting a spy cam in her son's room, I just cannot bring myself to digest how WEIRD and MANIPULATIVE and WRONG it looked..when Ishita was sitting with her headphones on and watching the laptop screen..like it was going to reveal something shocking any minute soon. That kind of did it for me...coz I do not expect to see one of my fav characters doing such sneaky stuff. Despite the warning, the nagging her conscience kept throwing in her face, she went and did something she didnt think she would have to be answerable for later.

Today was WORSE. Because we had BOTH the leads tarnished to a certain degree...On his part Raman was ABSOLUTELY right when he defended Adi, saying that "mera beta koi criminal nai hai, yeh camera lagane ki tumne sochi bhi kaise...tumhen kya laga ..woh log chor hain?" He was right when he pointed out to her that it must be extremely embarrassing for Adi when Vinni got to know there was a camera planted in his room... "Kya lagega uski dost ko? Ki hum apne bacchon ko chain ki saans nai lene dete?!!" It DOES matter because at the end of the day Adi is an individual too, and has his own peer circle and he doesnt want to be an embarrassment there!

I was WITH him when he said that he knows Adi very well and his son CANNOT be curbed/disciplined in this invasive manner. I'm not saying Ishita doesnt know Adi...she does...but as the biological parent of a kid he has seen grow up since birth, Raman DOES know precisely what can tick Adi off...and Ishita has just ended up digging her own grave (in terms of developing a trustworthy bond with Adi) by doing something this furtive...she has sort of broken the trust Adi might have had in her...

Ishita's claims of "Main usse pyar karti hun" and her justifications of the past few mistakes Adi has intentionally/unintentionally committed are not sufficient to warrant this kind of move she has taken. Raman is right when he says those were minor mistakes children make. Yes. It isnt something to be blown up out of proportion for. Because even when Adi impersonated his dad to get permission for Vinni, he felt guilty about it and wanted to tell his parents the truth. So somewhere, he knows what he's doing. Atleast, this post-Shagun wala Adi does. And we have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Just because he was under the influence of an irresponsible witch for 6 whole years doesnt mean he is going to repeat the same ghastly mistakes.

Its ironical that DESPITE being assured with Adi's med reports and the improvement he has made in his behaviour the last few months...Ishita STILL wants to make the past a reference as regards his upbringing. I understand its hard - but then SOMEONE has to give a chance. People NEED second chances. Free of past hangovers. Adi DESERVES that.

I applauded Raman, when he said, "Pyaar jab zyada ban jata hai toh ghutan ban jata hai" Yes...too much mothering can lead to smothering. It can lead to kids wanting to simply break away. It can lead to the growth of a child getting stunted for then he fears the outside world so much he prefers to stay in his cocoon...never venture out and do something new, have his own experiences, see life through his own eyes. And Im sorry to say but Ishita is SHORT of suffocating Adi with her love. There's this thin line that needs to be crossed and love suddenly doesnt nurture, it strangles. Ishita is ALMOST there. Just half an inch to the side and she'd have crossed the line.

Having said that, I also agree to what Ishita says - "ek chhoti se galti ho jaati hai mujhse toh aap mujhe kehte ho ki mujhe kuch aata hi nai hai"

Yes. Raman is justified in what he says, but the blame-game starts too early with him. Ishita is not a perfectionist, she is human, and she will make mistakes...but this trend that Raman has displayed over time is that of a short-fused spouse who flies off the handle too soon and blames his wife if anything goes wrong (THIS, despite having occurred in the way of something right)...I defend his anger...the reason behind it...but not the words he used...

"Tum Adi ki Maa nahin ho"

"Tum MAA HI NAHIN HO" 😡 This one was like a whiplash on Ishita's face.


These mean, piercing lines were not needed. By saying these things he was insulting Ishita's efforts, love and sincerity in bringing his children up like her own, her recent sacrifice and the NEAR-hell she went through to save Adi and Ruhi. But MOST importantly, the words he used sent Ishita spiralling back to the same dark lonely shell of her own where she had possibly stayed many years, pitying her barrenness and incompleteness while her love of 12 years moved on with someone who could beget him a progeny to carry his family name forward. It sent her back to that same juncture where she once used to feel unworthy of the greater joys of life - a loving spouse, a loving family and unconditional love - simple because she could not conceive.

This might even break her trust in Raman, thinking he always hurts her where it hurts the most and probably is like everybody else in this world, where a woman is measured in such undignified ways.

This kind of shows Raman is NO different from the Shaguns and Subbus in the world who feel a woman is judged ONLY by her capacity to give birth. All his past declarations of lifelong companionship, eternal love and commitment fall flat on the face when he utters THESE words. And this is unacceptable...because yelling at your partner for doing something wrong is one thing, punching their self-respect and playing with their emotional barometer right down to the smithereens, is another.

I WISH he exercised his words with care. With caution. Probably then, I'd have been happier to defend him.😔

Also, Raman's meanness kind of defused Ishita's obvious nonchalance about her recent "activity" and people might think its a "chhoti si cheez" like she herself believes. But no dear, its not. Its QUITE A BIG DEAL coz it could fracture your relationship with your child for a long, long time to come. I wish she wouldn't argue so much and accept she did wrong. It wouldn't make her small. Really. Then probably jhagda aage hi nai badhta.

Initially, when Ishita left the house in a huff, I was really concerned ki pata nahin ghar chhodke kahan jaa rahi hai...but later Toshi and Simmi...and sometime later even Mihika join Ishita at the spa...getting their nails polished and their backs scrubbed...and I was amused. The concern wore off because then I understood the CVs are going to make it "amusing" in their own way, skirting the real issues ONCE AGAIN.

I dont know WHICH spa in Delhi stays open till 12 at night (lived there 3.5 years, but never came across this kind of spa) but the women are content leaving the house, with Toshi blabbering "tusi" "assi" "tenu" "maine" "chhad" "mitti pao" etc etc in loud, buoyant Punjabi..while Ishita pitched in her bit and Simmi remained a reluctant participant holed up in the spa. Mihika was the only one who was HAVING a good time coz she WANTED to have a good time.😆

They want to see how long the men can be without them, what with Ananya left in the care of Raman and Sr. Bhalla. They should not have relied on this trick, coz Ananya NEVER cries. She didnt even bat an eyelid when her mother was dangling off the terrace of a high-rise building😆

Conversely Raman was super chilled and relaxed...enjoying the rains outside...and trying to rope in Bhalla ji and Romi and ACP to down a few pegs and enjoy the monsoon mood...

Sidenote: Romi will pay heavily for his newfound friendship with the ACP. I dont know which part of his body will get blackened first...his eyes or his behind😆

Raman, confident, that once the ladies get stuck in the rains outside will call them for help, changed into his comfy white pajamas and kept throwing his one-liners here and there, trying to get the others to chill...Yahan tak Raman tried to even get Appa to join in his drinking spree, which Appa agreed to, by inconspicuously nodding his head to the side and suppressing a grin..😆 very Iyer style...subtle and yet purposeful, "Haan mujhe daru chahiye par main munh se bolunga nai" types🤣

but better sense prevailed over the Samdhis and they set out to look for the women, with only Raman, Romi and ACP drinking to their heart's content and chit-chatting..

The last part of the episode was sort of hilarious...since between the shouting match between Vandu and Raman, she experienced a severe pain in her tummy and yelled, "My water broke!!"

"Water break kaise kar sakta hai" Raman asked, flabbergasted...🤣

minutes later, in pain, she yelled "Mera baccha NIKALNE WALA HAI"

"Arey par mere baache kab ke nikal chuke hain"🤣

Panicking, the boys try calling the women who dont pick up the calls, thinking Raman wants to manao Ishita...

Vandu struggling on the couch, yelling at the boys...looked starkly similar to the the delivery scene of 3 idiots...the panic, the tension, the PAIN. The men are taking Vandu in the car...even as she is screaming in pain..

What they are going to show is quite predictable,I guess...Raman would be outside the delivery room or something...and hear the shrieks of preggers Vandu delivering her child..I know, I know...he's already a two-time father...but Im just guessing some very filmy shit in my head...and after listening and seeing for himself the pain a woman goes through to give birth to a child...he is going to repent for having said those mean things to Iishita..and realise...that a mother really, really is attached to her child...and whether she has given birth to the child or not...the responsibility of bringing up a child is HUGE. And mothers take this responsibility damn seriously.

Aur kya ho sakta hai..😆 Actually, KUCH bhi ho sakta hai

I am laughing, coz well, the execution of Vandu's fight with Raman, the things he said "problem toh mere ghar aa gayi hai" "Yeh Ishu hi sabse bada ISSUE hai" and his other one-liners...Vandu's consternation at the ABSOLUTE cluelessness of the men as to her situation...Romi's suggestion that they could take Vandu in his bike (this sent me into a laughing fit actually🤣) was FUNNY. Hilarious, actually.

And YET...This time around, I want no dilly-dallying on the part of CVs and want them to give this mean fight between the leads a PROPER CLOSURE. Its one thing to keep amusing the audience, its another to turn a serious issue as parenting into a casual matter and one that can be "mitti paoed"

Both of them are wrong in their own ways and they need to APOLOGIZE to each other. Right now, open communication is the BEST option. I dont want each of them to start going on a secret mission when it comes to parenting Adi. It will lead to EVEN more fights, even more confusion and MORE distancing from Adi's end if they dont work on it TOGETHER.



P.S. Raman was gloating about how poor Bala is gone, coz Vandu keeps hovering over his head...the minute she walked in, Raman, Romi and Abhishek got up ...flabbergasted..jitna bhi tashan maar le, the panic was showing in their face.😆

P.S. Vandu tried to defend Ishita, justifying what she did, but am sorry..it was a fallacious advice from HER end from the beginning itself...Shravan will have a jolly good time...😆 I guess Vandu will even try and learn hacking, to get access to Shravu's email account and stuff...whatever prospects he has of clandestine online affairs also will be gone😆

P.S. Im just HAPPY Vandu is delivering the child. I feel my own SISTER is delivering a child..will go break coconuts in the temple tomorrow😆

P.S. ONLY KP could change our irritable moods after the cranky, mean first half. This guy's got SOMETHING. Some magnetic aura...We just cant keep hating him for too long😃. And I guess, THAT'S why I keep coming back to YHM. Please CVs...dont waste such brilliant talent on horrendous leaps...😭 Also, Shruti as Vandu is PHENOMENAL. Wish she is given MORE screen time. Fab cast👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Aka..long time no see..missed your reviews, yaar!😳

I'm not gonna comment on the fight because it would be useless on my part when they're just gonna brush it off and act like it never happened..which is what is probably going to happen..Just want them to realise their mistake and apologise..at least once..some sort of communication..ANYTHING..even words are not needed...SSOMETHING. 🥺

The latter part of the episode was HILARIOUS. I DIED laughing..Can't even stay mad at RKB when he spews all those one liners..my fave "Ye jo Ishu hai na wahi sabse bada issue hai" I DIED. LEGIT DIED. 🤣🤣

Loved the girls spa trip..because I wanted a girls outing of some sort..and got it..this was very similar to the episode where the boys went clubbing and came home drunk with the police..reminiscent of old YHM..so loved it.😆😆 Loved how the women were showing nakhre..especially Ishita..😆😆

Loved the verbal battle between Vandu and RKB..😆😆🤣

Loved that Ishu still has Ravan Kumar saved on her mobile..never ceases to make me smile.😆😃 I love the nicknames they use for each other..eg, Madrassan, JKR, Ravan Kumar, etc...🤣🤣

Watched the OLV for tomorrows episode and hilarity is promised..so looking forward to that but yea, also looking forward to an Ishra conversation of some sort..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with U. As much as Ishita is wrong in placing CCTV cam, so is Raman too in not involving Ishita in his plans to parent Adi. N although I will hope that they talk n solve this mess, in reality I have no faith in CVs to handle this situation maturely. 😛
On a serious note, Raman's words r too harsh sometimes. Mistakes r part f everyone's lives. I too hate it when CVs defend each n every action of Ishita's n spin it as motherly love. When in real life, I have seen families break when spouses have run off with kids scarring the family members for life.
But that does not absolve Raman's harsh dialogues, if he doesnt consider Ishita as mother f Adi then y expect her to parent him? Y expect that Ishita will b Ishima to him? This makes Raman's character look weak.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great write up!

In terms of the fight - I have no idea why they keep passing off these words as a "normal couple fight"...at first it was normal but it took a nose dive into the type of fight that breaks people. But then they brush it off as a girl's vs guy's thing? I just don't get it, and really I'm not a fan of the message it sends women who are infertile.

But que sera sera.

The characters don't take these fights & words seriously...so why are we banging our heads? My social conscious vehemently opposes the nature of the dialogues...but this show still manages to pull me in with the fabulous talent.

The entire pregnancy bit sounds wonderful & it looks like KP had a blast with the one liners! 😆

I loved your filmy bit about a father of 2's realization of what motherhood is. I want him to see forgiveness for his words, but that shouldn't make Ishita's actions correct. You did a fab job pointing out why the CCTV was too much, and I hope they allow Ishita to have that realization too.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Atii-

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Hey Aka..long time no see..missed your reviews, yaar!😳 I was down with viral yaar...the last 2 days...I still have traces of it, but better...watched the epi on Sat though...I missed you too...sorry, I couldnt reply to your post on my Friday's review thread😭

I'm not gonna comment on the fight because it would be useless on my part when they're just gonna brush it off and act like it never happened..which is what is probably going to happen..Just want them to realise their mistake and apologise..at least once..some sort of communication..ANYTHING..even words are not needed...SOMETHING. 🥺 Exactly. I will seriously leave hoping for anything of this sort if they dont sort it out the proper way THIS time around. The execution might be funny, but at the end of the day, it IS about an important issue and it needs to be dealt with RIGHT.

The latter part of the episode was HILARIOUS. I DIED laughing..Can't even stay mad at RKB when he spews all those one liners..my fave "Ye jo Ishu hai na wahi sabse bada issue hai" I DIED. LEGIT DIED. 🤣🤣 LOL...I sort of heard this bit, but only the second part "sabsa bada issue hai"...thanks for mentioning it here...have added it in my review😆 Raman's expression when Vandu said, "MY WATER BROKE" and "MERA BACCHA NIKALNE WALA HAI"...Kya karen yaar Atii! Raman was SO GOOD in the latter half that I ALMOST forgot the first 3/4 th of the epi...and only recollected when I started writing the review

Loved the girls spa trip..because I wanted a girls outing of some sort..and got it..this was very similar to the episode where the boys went clubbing and came home drunk with the police..reminiscent of old YHM..so loved it.😆😆 Loved how the women were showing nakhre..especially Ishita.. I loved the fact that they were atleast not crying or doing eyesore inducing drama...they were chilling...and so were the boys...so that kinda reduced the frowns on my face😛 it was good to see that neither party was ready to give up...neither of them spiralled into depression or something, and yet, I want a proper closure to this

Loved the verbal battle between Vandu and RKB..😆😆🤣 Ditto! It was FUN. Though I couldnt hear most of the things both were saying, the acting was TOP NOTCH

Loved that Ishu still has Ravan Kumar saved on her mobile..never ceases to make me smile.😆😃 I love the nicknames they use for each other..eg, Madrassan, JKR, Ravan Kumar, etc...🤣🤣 They will always be this way. Hope they stay this way.

Watched the OLV for tomorrows episode and hilarity is promised..so looking forward to that but yea, also looking forward to an Ishra conversation of some sort..


I feel nice reading your post, Atii!🤗Its been barely two days...but it feels like home to me
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: gravity23

I was down with viral yaar...the last 2 days...I still have traces of it, but better...watched the epi on Sat though...I missed you too...sorry, I couldnt reply to your post on my Friday's review thread😭 I hope you feel better SOON!! And it's okay..no worries 😃😃

Exactly. I will seriously leave hoping for anything of this sort if they dont sort it out the proper way THIS time around. The execution might be funny, but at the end of the day, it IS about an important issue and it needs to be dealt with RIGHT. Comedy is all well and good but when it comes to issues like this..a very real, legit, sore fight between a husband and wife...these issues should be dealt with much consideration..I mean, I assume it should..I'm not married so I'm not really one to talk about marriage..but isn't that the case?

LOL...I sort of heard this bit, but only the second part "sabsa bada issue hai"...thanks for mentioning it here...have added it in my review😆 Raman's expression when Vandu said, "MY WATER BROKE" and "MERA BACCHA NIKALNE WALA HAI"...Kya karen yaar Atii! Raman was SO GOOD in the latter half that I ALMOST forgot the first 3/4 th of the epi...and only recollected when I started writing the review AND the water jug part..where they gave her a water jug assuming she wanted water 🤣🤣he was amazing..but idk..it's just that..a part of me was disappointed that he was being so chilled after being so mean to Ishita..Idk ..I thought at least he'd feel bad about it..khair..bleh..meh..

I loved the fact that they were atleast not crying or doing eyesore inducing drama...they were chilling...and so were the boys...so that kinda reduced the frowns on my face😛 it was good to see that neither party was ready to give up...neither of them spiralled into depression or something, and yet, I want a proper closure to this YES. YES. LOVED that they were not being the typical women and crying and sobbing about it..they were spa-ing 🤣 Look at me being all sexist 😆 wanting Raman to mop around while happy Ishu is chilling 😆😆


Loved that Ishu still has Ravan Kumar saved on her mobile..never ceases to make me smile.😆😃 I love the nicknames they use for each other..eg, Madrassan, JKR, Ravan Kumar, etc...🤣🤣 They will always be this way. Hope they stay this way. you and me both, friend! Isiliye I am scared shitless for this supposed leap..don't want them to change..😭

I feel nice reading your post, Atii!🤗Its been barely two days...but it feels like home to me


Aww! It was nice reading YOUR review!! ☺️
Edited by -Atii- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree to what u say except one thing where u said Raman commented on ALL Women collectively... It was Ishita saying aap mard aap mard.. N telling hum auraton ko hi sambhalana hota hain like so he said even one woman left my kids n went away... He didnt collectively comment on all women.. Instead Ishita was collectively comment on all men n defending all women...

Ishita may not apologise to Adi but she should atleast explain him her wrong act.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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the last line cracked me up!!🤣🤣🤣 Crsly mahn... itni mahine ke baad bacha aarahe hey.. it feels like its been etenrnity!! kal toh mein church zaroor jaungi..😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aku..u were nt well...
i kept on pinging u..no reply...

r u fine now???

lvely review...

aab aaku apna khoon na jala...the cvs r drugged when they wrte dialogues...if they dont bother themselves...when y is the whole forum doing ishita vs raman ...

I love them bas. with all their flaws...i mean IshRa...


these r the cvs...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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U are absolutely right. I wish the CVs would not make such a serious issue into a game. Something to be chilled out with a glass of liquor. The issue, both Ishita's behaviour and Raman's short tempered ugly dialogue, needs to be addressed...
If they just brush it off...oh Gosh!

A child's trust is broken, a couple's understanding is broken, a family relationship is hanging on a thread but the leads are shown chilling out...

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