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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

I know the precap and the Olvs have people upset ... But difference in parenting is a very normal thing and has led to severe fights between most normal couples. We have to realize that parenting doesn't come with the do's and don't s handbook.. It is what we do best based on our instincts and our values . our values are our life experiences cum our upbringing. So how can Two individuals share the same values?

Ishita and Raman are not any exception.

They didn't have these conflicts during Ruhi as Ruhi IS Ishita's child from the moment she entered her life and they started co-parenting her. Raman was not present during Ruhi's 1st six years and his journey with Ruhi as a parent started truly after Ishita entered their lives. And naturally for him to let Ishita guide their parenting technique is given.

Adi was part of Raman's daily life for the initial few years of Adi's life and Raman was very close to him till Shagun started to poison Adi against him. And Raman knows that now Adi is being just a normal 12-13 year old and he's no longer the kid he was for the past 6 years under Shagun's manipulation. He wants to give Adi that breathing space to grow his own self.

Ishita is not wrong either... She's ruled totally by her maternal instinct and her go getter attitude as also by the misdeeds of Adi's past which are preventing her from trusting Adi 100% . She would rather see her son safe than in trouble again. And hence the over protectiveness ...

And both raman and Ishita are Individuals of strong opinions.. As in they think their way is the best way😆

Adi is caught up between this conflicting styles of parenting ... And for him Raman's trusting him feels more welcome than Ishita's boundaries. So he's going with Raman.

This whole track has been a realistic take on how things can get messy when each side can be right but working in counter-sync with each other...

Yes the precap is heated... But this time the build up makes sense.

No chappals please ! ;)

Edited by -Gan- - 10 years ago

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-K.13-

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Posted: 10 years ago

I love that you loved it bc I felt odd actually enjoying the build up in this track because literally no one is fully right and everyone is wrong.

Ishita - I get her need to protect Adi because that would be my knee jerk reaction. I'm not a mother, but often times my siblings say I am worse than my mom & so they lovingly call me "helicopter didi." I have gotten in fights with my sibling growing up because I thought I was trying to 'protect them.' Unfortunately, the reality of the world is that we can't protect our loved ones from all the dangers in the world.

This is a lesson Ishita needs to learn because publicly scolding & installing CCTV cameras without talking to Adi in private first is a breach of child-parent trust, and will only push Adi away & inadvertently encourage him to keep secrets. I don't see what all Vinnie has done to upset Ishita, and so far Adi's major mistake has been to impersonate his father.

This is all very new territory to Ishita because she was raised in a small household with no boys, and in general, it is different to raise boys & girls. Because this is new territory, she's reverting to what she knows best - overprotective mama bear mode.

Raman- Raman was a teen boy and raised in a loud home. We know there was discipline in their home growing up, as Mr. Bhalla has been shown to discipline as a last line of defence (which is often the case for dads). However, Raman was wrong in being too lenient. His approach is correct to a degree because he's trying to build a trusting & open relationship between father-son. His biggest flaw - he disregarded the maternal aspect of the equation. By not telling Ishita about this study party, he did her a disservice.

Even though the precap had some harsh words - I know personally when I finally blow the lid & am pissed...I inadvertently hit my loved ones below the belt. The only difference between real & reel - I feel hella guilty once the anger fades away. I wish they would show some post-fight communication and not just have them move on.

However, just because I understand this anger does not lessen the hurt I feel as a woman for Ishita. Her sense of motherhood is her biggest insecurity, and I want her to voice her hurt like normal people do. While I don't get the need to always go for the jugular, I have noticed that he more often uses these types lines when it comes to parenting Adi (vs. Ruhi), which ties into your point about how 1 year of parenting Ruhi has been very different. They all know Ruhi is Ishita's through & through, but Adi is different. No matter how much we want Adi to fully be Ishita's son, it cannot happen overnight.

If these lines are included to trigger a pregnancy track - I'm not the biggest fan because why make her husband of all people say things like that and why should this be the reason she wants a kid?

The important lesson from this is that one person's errors don't absolve another of theirs. This shouldn't be a competition of who is worse or most wrong, because guess what? They both are in the wrong. It may be different for each character, but they are both wrong and need to apologize.

Edited by -K.13- - 10 years ago

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WhyAmIHereAgain

@WhyAmIHereAgain

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Posted: 10 years ago

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So sorry for unresing so late..had a bad headache yesterday...

lovely post as always gan..

posting my thoughts...i posted the same in Aani's post as well...just so u knw...😆

khub ekta lekha te expert noi...😳

Parenting a teenager is so difficult and when the parents are also new to parenting it becomes even more so...both Raman and Ishita is going wrong here and not understanding each other's POV...

Raman...

He clearly is taking a cool dad route..which is all fine.. but his attitude comes from "itne din baad mera beta wapis aaya hain.." which he said when ishtia challenged him to speak to Adi about the phone call...That is bound to happen..its like..i finally got my son..let him enjoy...i will not tell him hate me again fr disciplining him...

I was totally with Raman when he was cool about his going to the party... coz afterall its just kids party... but however when police came to drop him off.. he shud have just had a word with him... not to scold..but just a word.. but he was busy escaping from ishita...

then came the next point... Lying to you frnds mom about the party is a serious issue.. Raman went to talk at ishita's insistence...but before that he was all cool...hid it from Vinni's dad that he is at home... this is a small issue.. but hiding ur son's mistakes can result in serious issues.. which Raman shud be aware of.. so I was surprised that raman was acting all cool...

not a word of caution.. saying " beta, i understand ishima is overreacting may be... but you shudnt have lied...what image of ur family are you representing in front of others... that they encourage you to lie? next time..please share your problem.. i will ask your frnd's mom to let her go..."...

When Adi requested him to hide abt vinni and her visit to bhalla house...a parent shud say...i will try to convince ishima...and not hoodwink her...coz indirectly you r suggesting its okay to lie and hide stuff from ur mom if she doesnt like something...

Ishita

I think the whole concept of becoming a parent of a teenager boy is a lil overwhelming for Her..handling ruhi is easy...coz all u need is maternal instinct... but not when you r handling a teenager..that needs evolution of a mother too...

n it does seem like she is gettign a lil influenced by her mother's overinterfering attitude...

afterall we do learn from our parents...so she is not realising it, but she is becoming a lil over critical...and I found it so natural... tht ishita is afterall a human...who is bound to make mistakes too...

but is she totally at fault for being paranoid??..the fact tht the police did come to drop him off is bound to make her scared...even thou he is nt at fault... and the fact that raman is being too casual is further making her more paranoid...

its not about punishing Adi for his past, but you do need to be cautious fr someone who did show a psychological disorder not too long back...

I think I have mentioned ealrier in one of my posts..i knew a guy..single child of his parents who were trying fr a long time... highly pampered... got everything he wanted... once they refused to give him a motor bike, he tried to commit suicide...he was saved... he apologised and said he will never do it.. but then again one fine day for some trivial fight or something.. he jumped in front of a train n killed himself...

but then again..am i saying ishita is right at installing cctv..ofcourse she isnt... even if she is scared... what they both need is to tone down and understand each other.. I m sure they will eventually... n meanwhile...

.i do understand when u r angry u say things...heck i know... coz i m female version of RKB (wrt Temper) to my hubby's male version of Ishita...(🤣) but there r few things you just dont say...

PS: dont knw how much coherent my ramblings are...but here it is...😃

Edited by shalz_123 - 10 years ago

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victo

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Posted: 10 years ago

I loved the points quoted towards parenting. Both are correct on their view points.Each and every person has different view and it was shown aptly

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -K.13-
I love that you loved it bc I felt odd actually enjoying the build up in this track!

Even though the precap had some harsh words - I know personally when I finally blow the lid & am pissed...I inadvertently hit my loved ones below the belt. The only difference between real & reel - I feel hella guilty once the anger fades away.

I'll be back later to rave a bit more! 😃

@bold been there done that .. Too many times 😳

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-Gan-

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: victo
I loved the points quoted towards parenting. Both are correct on their view points.Each and every person has different view and it was shown aptly

Yes after all the melodrama of the Subbu revenge track... This feels oh so YHM-esque 😃

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momb24

@momb24

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Posted: 10 years ago

I have been loving this track😊

Ishita and raman are crazy as each other. They both can go over board when angry but we only wish for a decent ending to their fights,not ignore it as they usually do.

I know someone who put cctv camera in their house, just to make sure the kids don't misbehave while he was not there. He got bored and stopped his madness after a few arguments 😆

I guess many bizarre things happens in real life too.

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-K.13-

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Posted: 10 years ago

Ramblings updated on page 1! 😃

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Veeann

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Posted: 10 years ago

Honestly, I will take this slice of life bickering and clashing, OTT though it may be at times, over the Dubbu and sauten wars type of nonsense any day.

And I also felt kind of guilty that I am enjoying the bickering etc because everyone else seems to hate it, but then hey, different strokes for different folks.

I never had an overprotective parent ( I have the worlds coolest parents) and I am not a parent, but I have had enough "are you kidding me" "don't come hear my school" "don't walk with me" type convos with my now teenaged nephew to know that I would have been nightmarishly overprotective if I had children. So I can relate to both Raman and Ishita. 😆

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Veeann

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: -K.13-
I love that you loved it bc I felt odd actually enjoying the build up in this track because literally no one is fully right and everyone is wrong.

Ishita - I get her need to protect Adi because that would be my knee jerk reaction. I'm not a mother, but often times my siblings say I am worse of a sister & lovingly call me "helicopter didi." I have gotten in fights with my sibling because I thought I was trying to 'protect them.' Unfortunately, the reality of the world is that we can't protect our loved ones from all the dangers in the world.

This is a lesson Ishita needs to learn because publicly scolding & installing CCTV cameras without talking to Adi in private first is a breach of child-parent trust, and will only push Adi away & inadvertently encourage him to keep secrets. I don't see what all Vinnie has done to upset Ishita, and so far Adi's major mistake has been to impersonate his father.

This is all very new territory to Ishita because she was raised in a small household with no boys, and in general, it is different to raise boys & girls. Because this is new territory, she's reverting to what she knows best - overprotective mama bear mode.

Raman - Raman was a teen boy and raised in a loud home. We know there was discipline in their home growing up, as Mr. Bhalla has been shown to discipline as a last line of defence (which is often the case for dads). However, Raman was wrong in being too lenient. His approach is correct to a degree because he's trying to build a trusting & open relationship between father-son. His biggest flaw - he disregarded the maternal aspect of the equation. By not telling Ishita about this study party, he did her a disservice.

Even though the precap had some harsh words - I know personally when I finally blow the lid & am pissed...I inadvertently hit my loved ones below the belt. The only difference between real & reel - I feel hella guilty once the anger fades away. I wish they would show some post-fight communication and not just have them move on.

However, just because I understand this anger does not lessen the hurt I feel as a woman for Ishita. Her sense of motherhood is her biggest insecurity, and I want her to voice her hurt like normal people do. While I don't get the need to always go for the jugular, I have noticed that he more often uses these types lines when it comes to parenting Adi (vs. Ruhi).

If these lines are included to trigger a pregnancy track - I'm not the biggest fan because why make her husband of all people say things like that and why should this the be reason she wants a kid?

The important lesson from this that one person's errors don't absolve another of theirs. This shouldn't be a competition of who is worse or most wrong, because guess what? They both are in the wrong. It may be different for each character, but they are both wrong and need to apologize.

Love your take on this Krishy. 👏

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