Blast from the Past Thread #29 **Aana To Tha Hi** Pg 23, Epi 346 - Page 47

Indi di, Indu,

^^^

hi kizh, great to see you and i should thank you guys for even bothering to read these episode posts.

for me, despite all the flaws and gaps and jagged poky bits ipk felt like ipk right upto the 1 august fight... at the end of it, a superimposed asr voice saying he'll take her home the next day.

a lot had been going haywire and yet one sensed there was a way to bring story back, asr was out to win back his wife, this could be wonderful... and though story was a bit here and there, barun and sanaya were so good plus there seemed to be hints of a return to sheesh mahal, a back story...

anyway, the fight was so spectacular and my hopes soared so high that i absolutely did not suspect what was up ahead.

everything changed... dadi onward.

i couldn't make any sense of this lady, despite the deadly asr looks one got as a result and again i had no way of knowing that they would turn the much looked forward to i love you dammit to the remarriage drama.

i say much looked forward to because i know many in the forum were screaming for a more asr-ish declaration having decided the i love you khushi was not quite him. well, i was ecstatic with the way, the timing and the story of i love you khushi, so had no crib... but yeah, an i love you dammit was thoroughly asr and anything that is always my thing, ours in fact.

the scene after that had khushi looking thrilled and wonder struck. she walked back to their bedroom and picked up the petals, clearly a sign of her acquiescence to the idea.

how was i to know all this would turn into the unspeakable drama of avaidh shadi and remarriage.

and despite the fact that a look from barun at sanaya made me understand why asr might agree to this at all... i can't con myself into believing therefore remarriage is fine. again... it might have been.. had the writing made it so.


what is this cute couple act going on. who are these people. as for the barun leaving drama, i think it started a little later, or around now... he has said soemwhere and i don't have it handy that he was missing the character he played... that gussa, that asr...

every once in a way they gave him a spate of gussa as though it's a bribe to asr to remain him. the rest of him they robbed completely.

asr would stand around quietly while his wife and silly nk trapped the man who has ruined his di's life and actually killed her child?

really?

oh sorry, i forgot, this is asr who no longer goes to work and who spends his entire life looking at khushi with keen loving eyes and asks for more haldi to be put on him.

i sometimes wonder, since i pretend i can write.. that if i ever wrote a character like him or her, how would i react when the commercial considerations wanted "tweaking" (how i hate that word) and to what extent would i agree and how much would i allow to be totally ruined... at what point would i say, this is not right and walk.

absolute murder of a character, no two... is on. and anyone who says the show would have been fine had barun not left is dreaming.

to me, the look in his eyes at the mazar as he stares at her enraged and in hers, all innocence and fire and accusation and anger, is more exciting and romantic than all this dupatta drama. speaking of dupatta, episode 3, the brush and lingering touch of a floating white veil across a dark, stern face with chiseled features, a pause, and a turn of a proud head... a girl walking away, unaware.

that's called writing.

i see gautam hegde's tweet thanking all viewers and fans for keeping the ipk love alive, i feel  a faint stirring of anger. had they stuck to their guns, had the main writers raved and ranted a bit, had even one left, i might have had the respect for them i wish i could.

Edited by indi52 - 8 years ago

Edited by DurgaS - 8 years ago

Script becomes very imp ultimately. . becos unfortunately barun and sanaya can make  a badly written scene only bearable, not running for our remotes but won't be able to make  a khushi bringing shyam back or a super saccharine asr ridiculously imitating khushi  at the temple into a dussera or a diwali...

 its the channel thats the major culprit in ruining the tracks. becos they are the ultimate stake holders here.  TRPs went below 2.0 for the first time during kidnap and have never really gone up except for the week of court room drama and Shyam being kicked out. So they brought dadi, a saas basically, to boost up TRPs. She certainly had much better scope to going to back to her other son chachaji and sheesh mahal than bubbli and masala mama. The idea was fine but implementation not.

Post 300, there was a sea of change in the writers, it just said "creative team" perhaps meant SPs'. then came Jainesh.. and ironically post the remarriage ved raj came back. But it was all in channel's hands how they played with the writers and their writing. That is why PH had many hesitations initially to make a dori ripping if the channel would telecast or not ...becos that was a first of its kind ...and they shot it in many ways.. just in case channel doesn't approve .. but fortunately they did.. and we had an engraving in the stone...basically channel let the writers be until the trps were fine but once the ratings fell they flexed their muscle in a cliched bad taste. In a hostile every week ratings and channel pressures, to what extent writers could exercise or misuse their creative liberates remains obscure..


GH did love barun, sanaya, asr, khushi and reminisced  at every chance.. i do appreciate him for that..

barun leaving drama was only in the last month. Noone knew at this stage except for a fleeting rumor...but he never seemed in IPK mode. post MAMR shooting. he wanted to go. they didn't let him. He obliged for 2 months. come sept, remarriage, no one could stop him. I only wish he didn't make his loss of interest obvious in his on screen looks and make comments like hype for fans love for asr. otherwise he has every right to decide for himself...

But there was no one in the creatives thinking holistically for the story and the characters, Ideally every one should have accepted barun leaving and gave couple of good tracks post remarriage and call it a day. becos there was no way it could be stretched beyond a point.

In Mahabharata, there was a poem for how miserable Karna was in his final moments that led to his final downfall, as he had borne  curses from one and all.. kunti, krishna or even mother earth.. where the wheel of his chariot gets stuck in a soggy land and doesn't relent ... and he had to succumb...i feel the same for IPK..

Inspite,..all the insanity of the last few months couldn't really obliterate the alchemy of the first 10...

Aah Indu di your post and Durga di's poem both sad but true..

when a creative product belongs to no one really... no one is willing to fight to the death for it.. it does lose its very existence.

usually, tv serials i see i hardly think of as creative product. but ipk was one. who knows why, but it became that. an artistic leaning in it, a thing that hits hard, and then grips the insides, not letting go.

pity, when the trp storm came, no one was willing to be around and defend it till the bad times passed. mothers, when their children falter, hold firm, and hang in there... i speak of the sort of mothers that do, that yell scream and fight for their child, believing in him or her when things are down, and help a child go through to the other end, the safer shore, perhaps every creative product needs that sort of love.

not perhaps, i know it does. it is so so easy to lose a thing which is "creative" of spirit and being, when you evaluate it only in hard material terms. when you don't love it enough.

but yeah, ipk does have the resilience to weather, even its own flaws.

still astounds me how it was allowed to go this way.
Edited by indi52 - 8 years ago

Episode 342Edited by aarwen - 8 years ago

^^^

hi rhea,

you kept your cool a little more than me while doing the take of 342. teehee.

exactly no one could see garima quaking, only shatir shyam... now that they have practically officially taken away the burden of shatir from my asr. na, i just really could not get the meaning of this duh-ly smiling lover boy and the cute antics. man is not built around cute, he is to be angry, action oriented, sharp, funny. not sweet-cute. please.

and of course, sanka devi is now who i really don't know.

that babu ji scene would have been loved by me, if only i could feel khushi in my heart.

but while reading your notes on the central sort of role given to nk and that description of episode on hotstar, i thought, the other story they might have been pondering and which we mentioned in 341 must have been still in consideration. i thought about it while watching but was so exacerbated by the pointlessness, didn't follow that thought.

sigh. let's hope 343 gives some real joy, i need to feel the beauty of this pyaar.

while reading your homeland review i noticed you used the word intelligent... i so so wish we had at least one script from indian tv, actually thsi very script, where one could use that. the scope was there. the writers could have and all the actors would have delivered and more.

you mentioned akash payal in the beginning. the scene would have touched me if teh whole thing did... both pretty neat actors. so much might have been done... rarely do you get cast this capable...  yet, no one thought of actually reaching up and out and trying to really get this script to work.

instead desperate track and story changes to get that number.

not one channel guy wants something better, not one production house convinces a channel. i catch some long running serials' episodes at times while desulorily surfing channels wondering if there's anything to see. they are all so dull, boring, predictable, with the same formula in each and every one... the leap being a favourite. and the same bag of goodies to pull out scenes from for romance, as if no one has the energy to think of something new... can't get it. why this really inferior story telling? what holds us back?

Originally posted by: DurgaS

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Episode 130

Dard ki doori 

Zubaan se nikli kadvi baatein kayi 
Haal dilka dabke reh gaya 
Aankhein kehti rahi dastaan dil ki 
Phir bhi door main tujhse hota gaya

Apni hi uljhan mein khota raha 
Dard tumhara na dekh saka 
Aansuon se dhulgaya dil ka aaina 
Sirf chahat hamara reh gaya

Beech mein dono ki khadi hai deewar 
Kheench rahi mujhko dil ki pukaar 
Kuch kar nahi pata, kya hai majboori? 
Sehna hi padega ye dard ki doori

Translation:

Many bitter words have been uttered 
The state of the heart got pressed down 
The eyes kept conveying the heart's tale 
But still I kept going further away from you

I kept getting lost in my own complications 
Couldn't see your pain 
With tears, the mirror of the heart got cleansed 
Just our fonding remained

Between both stands a wall 
Keeps pulling me, the heart's call 
Not able to do anything, what's this helplessness? 
Have to bear this painful distance 

DurgaS's Index

Beech mein dono ki khadi hai deewar 
Kheench rahi mujhko dil ki pukaar


durga, a verse after a while. so enjoyed reading. that flow of inexplicable yet undeniable feelings between two people, one has to feel its poetry. thanks so much for sensing and giving utterance to that.

Originally posted by: indi52

Beech mein dono ki khadi hai deewar 
Kheench rahi mujhko dil ki pukaar


durga, a verse after a while. so enjoyed reading. that flow of inexplicable yet undeniable feelings between two people, one has to feel its poetry. thanks so much for sensing and giving utterance to that.