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Posted: 10 years ago
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So the Leap has happened and already 4 episodes have been aired this week.
Barring a few souls, most of the viewers have given the Leap a resounding thumbs down.👎🏼

Now WHY? That's the moot question

The Leap has happened for a period covering 9 months, yet the story hasn't moved at all.
We are all still stuck in the same rut that we were when the Show started. At least when the Show started, there was some interest regarding the reason for the split of NR; how 15 years had changed, shaped and moulded their lives. How their lives had been destroyed, how the children have been affected. Viewers were interested in watching how this disjointed family could come together again, and learn to live together and love each other. Nobody assumed that there would be no problems, but everybody expected the problems to be a bit realistic and the handling to be mature. This was supposed to be the time when Nachiket and Ragini realised how their separation has affected their kids, and how they should strive to learn to be better parents. At least try.

We saw nothing of that sort happening. Even before NR sorted out things between them, their relationship went for a total toss, and now the accusations are even more grievous and deeper.

Back then, neither N nor R were engaged - there was a latent hope in the story.
Late back in India, N proposed to Champakali in a drunken state, not interested in it at all, but tried desperately to hold onto his words. He took time to realise that even if he married, Ragini's posiition in his life was unassailable.

Now, Ragini is engaged to Chalu Chamanlal. Now this engagement doesn't make sense. I am repeating - had R decided to move on in the past 15 years, there would be some justification. But now there is none. I don't foresee any Mother belonging to the middle class, with a son in jail, agreeing to get engaged to a superficial moron. Whatever the situation is. Even at gunpoint.
And then tolerate him hanging from each and every branch of the home.

Even lovers who have had been together for 8-9 years before tying the knot do not spend this kind of time together. The uniqueness in Ragini's character is doen for. She is just too swamped now.

Nishi doesn't want Chalu Chamanlal to be involved in her personal matters. I don't want to discuss if she is insolent or not, but as a human being, she should be able to choose with whom she wants her private details be shared. Something relatign to pregnancy, child birth etc. - these are very personal stuff. Ragini needs to respect her daughter's decision and not share everything with CC. He is NOT the father of those kids.

That's what is lacking - total empathy and sympathy for characters; for situations. People can stay dignified even in dire circumstances. Our daily lives are filled with these heroes. And here we swaddlign in a make believe sad world of characters, who just don't have a life. No motivation to do better. To be positive. To fight it out for the most important things in life.

Nachiket was done for in those FBs 15 years back when he didn't fight for his family. Ragini - I don't know whether she has any means to fight now. A good character turned into a useless virago, for sake of convenience

The Destructuve Head thinks we are all fools - got her best people out to tweet and save her sorry backside. There is no rhyme and reason to the plot. No single characetr has any meaning - the ruddetrless story would have even continued without them. Or even not continued.

What's the value addition here? Zilch.

We wanted to watch a mature love story.

Nivedita Basu aur Team se nahi ho payega - they can't. Let's accept the basic fact.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree 101% with your post. I have not watched the post leap episodes, only read Forum posts. All characters are failures.
Neil and Ragini's characters have been totally butchered. They are portrayed not only to be the worst parents, but also worst lovers, and the worst couple. I have lost all interest to see them unite. I don't care anymore whoever they want to get engaged and married.

Shilpa, Aarav and Ranbir's characters were butchered to the extreme. What was the need for such a gory end to Shilpa? Why could not they send her and Aarav to study in some foreign land or some other city if the actors had requested exit?

I like the name 'Destructive Head' for the CVs. 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree. If you think from Ragini's side she was correct, no women will tolerate going with another women and that too hiding that she was pregnant, he kept her in dark which annoyed her and later in Aarav;s situation also at least on the last moment also Nachiket refused to tell anything about Aaarav which really was not acceptable. May be Nachiket did all this for not hurting Ragini, but this would be painful for letting her down and be humiliated. Then what is the sense of loving the person who gives more tears and does not be clear. Now she feels she has to move on. I think she was right in getting engaged to Aman
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Posted: 10 years ago
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very good analysis rachana. 👏 👍🏼
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on top of that NB shows N bonding with his "two children", not three, and does not give a hoot for children in india especially aarav.
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if NB had even shown how aarav is coping in juvenile jail or better still R visiting him, or N phoning nani or jail to find out about aarav, then leap might have been fractionally acceptable

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very sensible and mature analysis Rachna !!!
Creatives Please Read This Once... 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great analysis of the whole scenario after leap. Agree with you.

As i wrote in another post after leap for me the show has not gone to square 1, but in minus somewhere sliding downhill.

I started watching the serial for RR. But i loved Ragini's character, a single mother. Strong, worked, had principles, brought up kids, looked after mother and nani.
I was looking forward to seeing a mature love story develop involving not only Nachiket and Ragini, but also involving the kids. The getting back together of a family.

Yes no one thought or even wanted the getting together to be a simple thing that it should be done in 1 or 2 episodes. NR had not only to clear their own differences, but also get used to being together as well, as both had lived alone and had their respective lifestyles but also the kids needed to adjust to each other and both separate families needed to adjust to become one.

It would have been nice to see how NR handled things and brought their family together, but nothing of that sort happened. Aaravs detention could have been the reason to keep N in India and make them fight things as a family, but what we saw was another separation between NR and the leap.

After leap nothing makes sense to me where Ragini is concerned. A woman who has stood her ground for 15 years suddenly gets engaged to CC is just beyond my understanding.

I agree It must have been a bad period but she must have gone thru worst before when N left her with 2 small kids, mother and nani and no income sources etc. If she did not think about marriage at that time what made her do it now.

I would have liked it if they would have shown R to be more strong, more aloof with a little more hardness etc reflecting something to the effect that even if N comes in front of her it will not affect her.

What we are now seeing is R being engaged to CC, with pics of N etc on her wall, and she still keeps looking at them, still keeps thinking about N. Yesterday epi the song again brought back memories of N.

When a single mother decides to remarry, her 1st thought is not about herself and the new person, but how is the relationship going to be between the new person and her kids.

Nishi has made it clear ample times pre and post leap that she does not consider Aman to be her apna and he should not try and become her dad. Wonder if R even bothered talking to her kids or family before getting engaged to Chipku Chamanlal. Nani does not like him either and her mother does not seem too comfortable with him either.

N is been shown in a still better way. He is trying to keep the hurt inside himself and trying to become a father to his kids. Maybe cutting of ties with Nishi and Aarav is not really nice, but maybe he is just trying to protect himself as well as his kids from further hurt.

What is lacking is there is no Story. No Growth of characters. Its just plain recycle of stuff. Union / Separation / Union / Separation... the cycle goes on. Each cycle is going to be worse than the earlier one.

We keep seeing the same things and hearing the same dialogues. Leap is supposed to being in freshness, but there is nothing fresh at all.

Chipku Chamanlal 24/7 at R's. R saying the same dialogues and the dialogue i hate the most now is "Nachiket Ka Khoon" and "Tumhare Bacche Mere Bacche".

Even after watching for more than 6 months we are still not out of these things yet.

There were so many good tracks which could have been handled like Suhani Custody, Aarav Ranbir rivalry, Nishi marital problems etc without going thru the leap and separation.

But i guess the destructives are not really competent enough to handle such things.

So just be prepared to go keep going thru the same cycle of Tumahare Mere, fight and separation. This time R is engaged to Chipku Chamanlal, next N will be engaged or married to someone.

In all this mess i cannot even relate to NR being together and their love.




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you all. I was thinking that I was probbaly the only one to think like this.
Who are Nachiket and Ragini?

Failed spouses
Failed lovers
Failed parents


They just have failures all written over them
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Posted: 10 years ago
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amazing post rachna..could not have said it better ..let me start with my major issue with this leap...

nachiket does not have to bond with aarav..he can keep himself away but his moral responsibility as a father was not playing daddy cool with his set of kids but first and foremost to ensure that he helped aarav ..got him out or sentence reduced to maximum and ensured that ragini does not lose out on aarav...but all he did was once again walk away without a glance and playing the martyr ..sorry i cannot forgive that man for this and his idiotic reason to leave them and go 15 years back...it is like a major issue starts he is waiting to pack his bag and take off ..US is his plan B always...did ragini take out court order that he should evict mumbai??? everything ragini said about him being partial sounds right ...he is partial..although his major flaws does not reduce ragini's for sure...but am not playing blame game...he has huge resources and powerful connections...if he wanted or even tried through karan or RK..aarav could have been helped

the kid is going to feel hugely betrayed..one dad has not come to visit him once and secondly he did not even reach out to help...given how even he along with nishi considered him the cool super dad...

the lead character sor neither grey or black or white but utter fools and mentally demented who should be locked up individually into an institution and children handed over to Pam ...she for sure would do a much much better job

the leap is really bad coz they are looking even worst character wise...ragini's character has taken a major plunge and nachiket has come out looking like a hypocrite...and i will not even go to chaman...he boils my blood

NB ,it seems hates single mothers ..i find no other reason for her crass writing or creativity...ragini's own children abuse her ,mock her and have not an iota of respect for her ...if she could show agham and suhani as mature why could she not show atleast one of her set as mature and protective...it is like ,its a crime to be a single mother and raise children and this is how they turn out to be...tomorrow Baa is going to put all the blame on ragini for the family wreck...nishi would ,next aarav would come out and blame her for his issues as well...

the woman who was strong ,independent has been shown as some damsel in distress dressed like a christmas tree just months after her son is imprisoned and the icing that has gone sour ,engaged

the leap should have opened with ragini working hard towards trying to get her son out ,seeking help ,running lamp to post for him ..refusing aman for marriage telling her priority right now is her son and his life ahead which she has to start from scratch..she cannot enter a commitment coz it would be unfair to both as she could not be his wife ever ...if he is your friend be honest to him ..is not honesty your policy ??or rather convenient honestly...i shall be honest as and when it suits me but preach from the hill top ..and her look post leap should have been simple sarees coz it would depict a mother in mourning her son's imprisonment..this was not the time to show the move on phase...what on earth was NB thinking and if she really knows the pulse of her audience how could she even think they will swallow this garbage...

nachiket should have been shown as using his contacts and connections via karan to help aarav..they working with lawyers about aarav and he ensuring ragini does not know about it...

characters have a sketch in shows they evolve at some point ,every character does.. ...they justify even serial killers and criminals...you hate them or pity them but there is a reason for it...but with this show and the principle characters other than your ow frustration at their stupidity we as audience have no solid defence...i cannot defend neil or ragini or their stupidity..i just cannot and am pretty sure neither can NB hence you see her beating around the bush
Edited by sun29 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well articulated Decent and Sun.
Initially, I was empathising with both R and N. I realised they were very young when their worlds fell apart. Things happen. But given a chance, I thought they would grab it, and would want to work towards it, and face dire circumstances TOGETHER.

Of course, I expected problems to be there. Not everything could be hunky dory.

N did prove himself to be partial, I will agree with you. I understand his heart broke, but he did abandon that kid. Aarav did go to his Father for help and support, irrespective of his supreme idiocy. I also would have appreciated if through Karan and RK, N had tried to find out solutions to help his son. That boy deserved this much from his parents. I gather that nothing has been shown on R's side as well regarding Aarav, apart from feeling sad on seeing the photos on the wall. Agree totally Sun. An honest and logical story would have the Mother running pillar to post to save the son, or try to reduce the sentence. Or something to that effect.
Who on Earth gets engaged and dressed ulp like a Christmas Tree?
There seems to be boozing and all as part of NJ's Anniversary celebrations. I am not prude, but I do sometimes think like is this normal? Which Sister would actually want to celebrate in such a grand style when the kid Brother is in jail?
And then the fake pregnancy, whatever be the reasons.

I cannot connect with Ragini anymore. She has lost the plot totally. If she wants to move ahead in life, good for her. But are 2 years a lot to ask for? Let the kid come back home. She has waited all these years, now she can't wait for some more time. The psych of that Kid will be permanenetly damaged.
On top, Chalu Chamanlal is hounding her to get married, every passing day. For how long is she going to ward him off CC is one uesless and shameless character. Come to think of it, he actually has NO life. No connections, nothing else to do, except for suffocate Ragini and family.

There is actually no justification for CC to be at R's place. They are supposedy engaged. He could surely wait for some more time, if he really has been celibate for all these years. There is no depth in that character. It's a mockery to friendship - to friends who help each other out, who stand behind as the wall protecting and supporting their friend. Not suffocating them. or taking advantage of them.

Actually for me, both NR are dead. Period. Their FB did not do anything for me.

Love is a very complex emotion. It can make you or break you. But these two, they just chose to end themselves and their family. And their love affair.

And the Destructuve Head will do things worse. The team doesn't have the bandwidth to do better, with all due respects (or if anything is left behind, if at all)
Edited by poetic - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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and sadly itna karo na mujhe pyaar is no where depicted or justifed..when love is there ,there is sacrifices for the beloved...that is what is the extreme of being in love ..that you burn to light up the life of your beloved..not that you burn your lover in order to cook food in your kitchen...nachiket and ragini selfishly love each other ...and this is no love story ...God knows what NB is trying to show...or from which buckwaas dictionary she read the definition of this love...

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