Jodha Akbar 27 April 2015..HB's drama in DEK..AnaLYsiS Pg1; Updt-Pg4,5

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Jodha Akbar 27th April 2015...HB's drama in DEK.


Guys,
It was a fine episode.

1.
Jalal
Powerful scene.

Murad and Salim congratulate each other on winning the war.
Though, MURAD showed some attitude.

Jalal gives 2 options to the captured ruler of Badakshan in the court -
a. You come to my side and support me against Iranian ruler, but he says what if i dont.
b. Jalal says - Then i have another method also, which you know very well. And he holds his shoulder with GREAT force causing him enough pain.


2.
Jodha Salima
Before the balance of scales.
Salima tells Jodha to be strong and behave as MEH.


3.
Ruqs
She asks Hosh, what will happen in Dek.
He supports Jodha.
Ruqs was about to slap Hosh. But she stopped.
She said, lets wait for tmrw, if Jodha wins again, then save yourself from me.


4.
Jodha before Kanha.
She thinks how to handle the situation against HB.
Finally, she decides to go against HB because Jalal would also have done the same.
She puts on the crown and arrives in DEK.


5.
Ruqs says to other begums that soon Jodha's era in Agra will come to end.
Salima hears this.
She says this is never possible. Jodha is like a sun who will keep shining.
Ruqs fumes and Salima leaves.


6.
In DEK.
HB puts pressure on Jodha saying all this war is happening because of you. You are the cause of death of so many soldiers. So many children will become orphans. You have done nothing for this Sultanate. Infact, you are the cause of this problem. Due to you Shah i Iran is our enemy. You could not even save your son from the punishment. You always kept quiet in all this. When you could not save your son also from the punishments, then who am i ? Give me also punishment. And she faints saying this.

Honestly, i felt very angry today watching this rona dhona and the dialogues given to HB in DEK. I enjoyed the FIRST scene of Jalal with that ruler completely, which set the expectation bar very high today, but the last scene was a damp squib.


Precap:
GB comes to meet Jodha along with some other ladies of the harem, and asks her what was the need of asking such questions to HB. She can not hear such "HEAVY" words from you. Jodha again looked ready to cry.

Pathetic CV's. Today i liked the every scene starting from FIRST one, but this DEK scene marred that enjoyment.

Direct Link to the update meant for this Shah-i-Iran track::
The Daring Diplomatic Master Stroke of Akbar and Sheikh Mubarak


BTW, Have made a new post somewhere ELSE.
DEBATE on GREATness of monarchs in history(Akbar included).
Do join if possible.
Direct Link : What is the BASIS of GREATness ?
IF Link : https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bharat-ka-veer-putra-maharana-pratap/4363101/what-is-the-basis-of-greatness

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Meh is awakened, but no match for histrionics of mm and ruq.

Salima begum should learn to show support for meh publicly too.
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Hi Abhay


First of all, i am really sorry for not being able to post all these days due to my schedule.

Coming to episode, I agree with your feel of the episode. The DEK scene was 🤢 😡

As I mentioned earlier too, I am watching the Hamida and Ruq scenes in mute because these are pathetic and intended to simply humiliate Jodha the way she was humiliated by Jalal and Ruq during 2013.

Today too, I got the gist of what happened in the DEK from your writeup only.

First, I do not understand why the matter, if any, is in the DEK.

Second, if Hamida Begum is so fond of the Shah-i-Iran, Jodha should make travel arrangement s for her and pack her off to Iran permanently. Along with Ruq.

Why was Hamida BEgum silent initially when the problem first started? Then she didn't even want Jalal to tell JOdha anything lest she should worry. What has changed now?

Thirdly, why is Hamida so keen that war should not occur and Jodha should convert? Has she secretly made a deal with someone?

Where was Hamida's anti-war sentiment hidden all these years?

And the fainting was too much!! She is not leaving any form of emotional and psychological blackmail untried on Jodha. Does she deserve to be the Queen Mother and Mariam Makani?

The title of MM implies that she was innocent, but the present form of MM is anything but innocent.



Jodha looked like she had finally awakened to the responsibilities and the pressures of being the MEH. I was thankful that as Jodha stood in front of the scales of justice, Salima Begum came there to lend her moral support and reassure her that she was doing the right thing as the MEH.

And then the awakening came on its own, like a flash of lightning, as Jodha struggled to find answers to the circumstances in which she found herself. I am thankful for this too because it would have been disappointing if Jodha had to be goaded into action by someone else always.

Till the time Jodha wore the crown and strode purposefully towards the DEK, I was happy. But even in the muted scene, I could see she was too terror-struck by her towering mother-in-law to say anything. She was so petrified that even as Hamida Begum fainted (rather grossly, I felt) she could only watch but was not able to move a muscle to hold the senior lady from falling to the ground.

This much was clear that Hamida BEgum had planned the whole DEK tamasha and was faking the fainting spell. The goal seemed to be to bring all round pressure on Jodha to break down and convert.

Here I feel that when the pressure intensifies on Jodha to convert, then just as she is cracking under the strain, she gets a dream in which Jalal shouts talaq because she changed her religion. And this dream stops Jodha from converting and succumbing to Hamida's pressure.




I do not appreciate people like Salima Begum who do not have the courage to stand by their convictions openly. She was quite proper in advising Jodha to stand upto MM in the DEK and to do justice even if it meant an increased breakdown of relations between Jodha and Hamida. I believe she was genuine in this scene based on her character graph so far.

Yet this Salima Begum is too hypocritical. She is aware of everything but has not supported Jodha publicly or in front of MM even once. She could have spoken to Hamida at least once on behalf of Jodha even if she felt that the effort would be futile. After all, she has a lot of influence with MM.

Even in the precap scene, she is seen to stand quietly as Gulbadan Begum raves and rants against Jodha publicly.

In spite of his vast experience, even Jalal too has needed moral support and encouragement from time to time. Hasn't it occurred to Salima Begum that this is Jodha's first experience of being an MEH and that she is facing a formidable opponent - her mother-in-law.? Right now, with even Jalal away at war, Jodha has no one except Moti for comfort and support. She is facing the brunt of Jalal's decisions all alone.

If, at this point, Salima Begum had declared that she was with Jodha Begum and had practised what she preached so easily to Jodha, then things may have been different.

Is it possible that Salima is miffed that JAlal left the empire in Jodha's hands this time, instead of hers, as always?

Hamida too may be ruffled that Jodha was now at par with her in the hierarchy and try to put her down.




We all know that JJ will always be together and will never be divorced. And in the meantime, we have to put up with a lot of melodrama and unnecessary scenes of Jodha's humiliation.



There's another possibility that has struck me.

THis track may be the copy of the Ben track. Then Jalal will somehow get miffed with Jodha and turn to the vishkanya, just to spite Jodha.

Hamida will play the part of Maham who pushes Jalal to leave Jodha and marry the vishkanya.

and then just as Jalal is about to marry the vishkanya, Jodha will save him and JJ will come together again.


The show is losing its charm over me. Even the AkDha scenes are not enough to recreate the early magic anymore. And esp since the war started, the show is looking even more insipid and lacklustre.


The Akbar - Murad- Salim scenes were good. 😊




Edited by RadhikaS0 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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what a yuck episode we thought finally we going to see strong jodha but in DEK she said nothing :(
and MM continuesly blaming her itss too much now every one blaming Jodha why ?Jodha was doing her duty as MEK
i just hate GB
agar jalal ne jodha ko talaq dene ke socha just becoz of this ye too much ho jayega
becoz here jodha ke 1% b galati nahi hai and jalal know really well Jodha kabbhi galat nhi karege
aur jalal ne jodha ko hud kaha tha kabhi kabhi aise faisale lene padh thee hai
as MEK if jodha question MM i dont think so she was wrong

Im dam sure agar jalal hote wo b jodha ke tara ammi jaan se puchta aur jodha ko ye matter dek mein lena b nahi tha wo
mm hai jo jasbati ho kar ye matter dek tak le gaye


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for the update Abhay😊.
For me it was an ok ok episode because of the DEK scene. Jalal's scene in the beginning was the tops👍🏼 but MM's confrontation with MUZ was👎🏼.
The attitude with which Jodha left for DEK completely vanished when she entered DEK. Why are CVs bent on showing her to be so weak and weepy and completely opposite of what she was in her ghrina phase.
I am very disappointed with Jodha's characterisation.. She was the one always preaching kartvaya always comes first but what happened now.

Hope we get to see a better episode tomorrow.

Edited by Tarunika13 - 10 years ago
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epis like this makes me want to bang my head on the wall😡. kya bolu ab, thinking of not watching from tomorrow, will read the wu then watch on net😭
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Thanks Abhay for the wonderful update. Normally I would have watched by now JA. I will watch it later in the day as am sure after watching I will end up being frustrated. Looks like more of Ruks today

Thank goodness SB advised Jodha. What is it, when will we get to see a strong Jodha or will we ever. I am not that disappointed as from Precap on Friday, the Jodha I saw in DEK was in tears. SO I expected nothing much to happen. I dont care what all happens, Jo keeping quiet, all I want to see is she nor converting to Muslim. I hope I am not asking too much from CVS

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My noted:
I think MEH vs MM track is likely to take place during this week. So, i'll be patient to wait MEH action during this week, i do believe her...*finger cross*

Because I do not understand hindi, I ask to my all friends in this thread to please translations in English all Jodha line at Khana murti ... for me thats her inner strenght point to faced MM at DEK.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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i think HB is trying to cheat Jo into conversion... Jo won't even know when she was converted, ( CVs can show anything in name of NR... so may be they will show her converted to Islam first, and then back to Hinduism, saying Islam does not accept her as she was cheated...)

and Jalal will come to know that and will be upset with Jo... and when he will threaten to divorce , she will come to know the truth... so by this time HB will become a complete villain...

don't take it seriously guys... i m just trying to imagine how weird CVs can think...
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Thanks Abhay,

Today liked, jalal, strong, attitude, as a king,

jalal words were, amaging +powerful

All know, i like Aman, First, but if front person,not accepts then, i have,choose,

tough also,;;;;;;;;;;;;;, choice is your.style of jalal was,👏 👏

try to write after some time.


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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Thanks Abhay for the wonderful update. Normally I would have watched by now JA. I will watch it later in the day as am sure after watching I will end up being frustrated. Looks like more of Ruks today

Thank goodness SB advised Jodha. What is it, when will we get to see a strong Jodha or will we ever. I am not that disappointed as from Precap on Friday, the Jodha I saw in DEK was in tears.



No use of Salima's advice , Sindhu... after reading the update , i think , CVs will show Jo converted to Islam...

i m not watching this track now...this is end of my patience..

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