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KudiAnjani

@KudiAnjani

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

Whereas Muslim women in Iran are risking all to protest against the Hijab, in India it seems Muslim women are headed in the opposite direction.

Here is an un-cut, un-edited 23-minute stroll through the alleys of Delhi's historic Muslim district in very heart of the Indian capital.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtXyMSS5DJ8&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]

found this video on tarek fateh fb page its current viral video.people are comfused it is india or iran or pak?

why women are forced to wear hijab in india is talk of the town?

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souro

@souro

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Posted: 10 years ago

I get the feeling from desi Muslims that they have taken up the burden of protecting Islam solely on their shoulders. Many think that they are descendants of Arabs and try to emulate Arabs, especially Saudi, in everything. And they think the sole responsibility of protecting anything remotely to do with Islam is on them. If there is action against Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar, Muslims start a riot in India. If Israel and Palestine clash with each other, Muslims in sub continent start a riot. Some priest of a fringe fundamentalist Church in USA declares to burn the Quran, Muslims in sub continent start rioting. I don't understand why they like to destroy public property in their own country when the problem is happening somewhere else and their rioting is in no way going to help defuse the situation over there. And as more and more fundamentalism is taking root, symbolism like hijab and beard is growing in India. Earlier in West Bengal, except for a few conservative families, it was very difficult to tell apart a Hindu and a Muslim man/ woman. But now when I go there I see so many women in fully covered burqas and men wearing skull cap and beard.

I don't know whether Muslim girls wear hijab out of their own free will or brainwashed from childhood, where they don't know any other alternative or forced to wear it. Each side makes different claims depending on what suits their purpose best. I have my own opinion, but since I cannot objectively prove it, I don't want to get into that debate. But I do think it is growing, and I think the global as well as the internal situation is responsible to a certain extent for this. As I said, Muslims in subcontinent are more and more instigated by their leaders in connection with what is happening in other countries. On top of that, Hindutva politics gaining strength in India is making them even more insecure. When someone feels cornered and victimised (fairly or unfairly as the anxiety is propagated by their leaders), their sense of belonging to a community usually becomes even stronger and it starts getting expressed in such symbolism like hijab, skull cap, short trousers, beards, etc., sort of like showing that we belong to the same brotherhood and as a mark of defiance to the other side. I believe that is what is happening among Indian Muslims as well. And in my opinion it will only grow, because these things go on in a vicious cycle. As their symbolism grows, Hindus will feel more threatened and they will support Hindutva politics even more, which in turn will threaten the Muslims even further and they will engage in further symbolism and more rioting, as an act of defiance and to exert their presence in the society.

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sudesh kumar

@qwertyesque

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Posted: 10 years ago

ok some people or groups dont question this tradition and prefer to stick by it.. that should be fine. Just cause iran question it doesnt mean they have to do the same. india rituals tradition and customs are generally forced down generatioins... so it becomes that more difficult!

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990853

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Posted: 10 years ago

I think what people should wear or not should be left on the individual. If someone want to follow their culture or tradition whats wrong in it ? But at the same time it shouldnt be made compulsion.

But I do have a feeling there is some kind of silent revolution going on in Muslim community through style. Its world cup season and I saw couple of cricketer with shaved mustache but long beard which looks bit odd to me.

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642126

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Posted: 10 years ago

I don't understand.

Few years ago there was debate on hijaab in India.

I think minorities feel kind of threatened. And the orthodox ones do not want their girls to be influenced by Western culture or rest of Indian culture either. Hence asserting their traditions more.

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Mini

@iMini

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Posted: 10 years ago

Nothing like wearing a hijab should be a compulsion.
Some even like wearing it..even I wear it when I feel like wearing it despite having no links with Islam.Too much of anything will lead to rebellion, like in Iran.In india,no one cares if a Muslim lady wears a hijab or not,it's a personal choice or just limited to certain Muslim families.

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_notinuse_

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Posted: 10 years ago

I think some muslim people of India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan idolize Arab culture and want to emulate them because they believe that it is their religion. They have this idealized vision of what Arabs are like. The reality is that other than the oil wealth, there isn't much to look up to. They are in no way role models of a perfect society. Far from it.

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angrybread

@angrybread

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: PandorasBox
I think some muslim people of India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan idolize Arab culture and want to emulate them because they believe that it is their religion. They have this idealized vision of what Arabs are like. The reality is that other than the oil wealth, there isn't much to look up to. They are in no way role models of a perfect society. Far from it.

Arabs and asian muslims are no where the same culturally right from the point of how to practice religion and little practices related to it to clothes, food, marriages,family life , festivities etc everything is very different.

No where are arabs idealized , Arab nations might be favourite for muslims as these places hold special significance religiously and often that may lead to thinking that those living in arab countries are fortunate as they live in these sacred places- but that's all to it .

OT: Hijaab is not just worn by uneducated village women or old women , nowadays educated young women are wearing it not just in india but here in uk i have seen plenty of independent strong women in higher posts wearing by their choice .

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

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Posted: 10 years ago

i think its very kinky to see women in hijabs. There's mystery in not knowing what's inside- an iman ali or a rakhi sawant. Of course more often than not, its gonna be sawant because iman ali has no reason to hide. But hey, you can always hope for the best, cant you? That way, mind is a very powerful thing- you can conjure up the greatest fantasies.😆

seriously its really warped when you have females say they feel emancipated having the choice to wear hijabs. You cant be coming up with sad choices and then say you've got a choice. That way, you could also say that your choice to get run down by a truck is very liberating. People, i tell you. 😆

on another point, that black garb is heat absorbing. It'll make the woman perspire and stink more than she needs to (is that why they put on all that odious attar?)... It's a primitive medieval mindset to think that in this day and age you should be covered head to toe. Remember, tis the age of global warming and black's the wrong color.😆 It's also a social body language thing- when you wear hijabs, you're blocking others and being blocked out.. Not good for interpersonal communication. Also, isnt it a public safety thing?- women can hide weapons etc under that pile.

coming to the uk, arent most muslims there very mediocre class. A lot of them cleaning toilets along with their other desi brethren? Yes yes, we all know about exceptions. We are talking "most".To understand this point, look at pakistan. How many rich/ upper elite women wear hijabs there? That hot foreign minister woman, did she wear one? Any of the actresses ?

so given above reasons, i hope they outlaw hijabs from delhi. I dont want my city get overrun by people who dont want to belong to modern norms. :) Hope this does not offend anyone- am just stating my aversion to it in a debating context. :)

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return_to_hades

@return_to_hades

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

i think its very kinky to see women in hijabs.

Get out of my head you. 😆

I have an unabashed hijab fetish. It is counterproductive for me. Someone in a two piece bikini could walk by and I wouldn't notice. I see them in hijab, my imagination goes in overdrive wondering what is hidden behind the veil.

I will have to check the video when I get home.

In my personal experience, I've seen more hijab clad women in USA than in India. Most of my Muslim friends back home were progressive and pretty irreligious. I've run across more conservatives here.

I find Indians in the subcontinent more secure about their religion than abroad. Take the cricket players in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. It is Moeen Ali and Hashim Amla with their Muslim beards. Even Saqlain Mushtaq was clean shaven till he went to UK.

The few Jordanian and Syrian Muslims I have come across are also more progressive.

To me the biggest problem is the second/third generation Muslim immigrants in western countries who are stuck in the time their forefathers left their country. They are the ones who seem most swayed by extremist causes.

Having not lived in India for many years, I'm not in touch with the issues around Islam in India.