Rani Mukerji dissects the mindset of a rapist, post 'India's Daughter' - Page 2

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I know this thread requires a serious discussion but can't help saying..her face looks like a gol gappa in the first picture
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: silent_reader


ever heard of people gaining new perspective as time passes? she may have done a misogynistic movie earlier in her career but she has also done some feminist work like work in a women centric movie and work for several women's causes.


Yes, bollywood is not the best place for women's cause but let's not negate the fact that what she has said about the society is true.

Let's focus on the message and not the messenger.

Us Indians have become too defensive.


Good one!
perspective of a humanhood would change at different stage of life. Thus, to downgrade her POV due to her debut hindi movie is unrelevant. That won't prevent her right to dissect the mindset of the rapists. Us agreed or disagreed on her dissection are the separate thing. The abuse cases among high society is another issue to cope with but the critical condition occured to the normal society as it involed the tragic death as well, why can't she join the banwagon of spreading the awareness to public?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I recently saw RKAB and boy what a horrendous movie, so glad it flopped. One of the most ridiculous storylines I've ever seen--and I'm pretty sure that probs has happened before. Not through the court system but in smaller villages.
Either way, I feel like everyone in BW has given an opinion but I hardly see any hands-on work for progress. Maybe Sushmita and Nandita, but who cares is actively doing something. Giving talking points is so easy, but people with such money and influence can actually do way more.

I do like what she said in the end: India does have a lot of good that gets ignored globally and people tend to focus only on the bad.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: light_year

Here is the list of top 10 countries with highest rape crime. You would be amazed to read that the most developed countries like U.S., Sweden, France, Canada, UK and Germany are the most immersed ones in this crime.

Note:- These stats are two years old. Here are recent stats for the countries with highest rape cases.

10. Ethiopia


Ethiopia is estimated to have one of the highest rates of violence against women in the world. A report by the UN found that nearly 60% of Ethiopian women were subjected to sexual violence. Rape is a very serious problem in Ethiopia. The country is infamous for the practice of marriage by abduction, with the prevalence of this practice in Ethiopia being one of the highest in the world. In many parts of Ethiopia, it is common for a man, working in co-ordination with his friends, to kidnap a girl or woman, sometimes using a horse to ease the escape. The abductor will then hide his intended bride and rape her until she becomes pregnant. Girls as young as eleven years old are reported to have been kidnapped for the purpose of marriage. Also the Ethiopian military has been accused of committing systematic rapes against civilians.

9. Sri Lanka


Sri Lanka's security forces are still raping and torturing suspects. There have been recent allegations that rape and torture by the Sri Lankan security forces have continued four years after the civil war ended. The UN Multi-country Study on Men and Violence found that 14.5% of the sample of Sri Lankan men had perpetrated rape at some point in their lives. 4.9% had raped in the past year. 2.7% had raped another man. 1.6% had took part in a gang rape. 96.5% of the men who had raped experienced no legal consequences. 65.8% didn't feel worried or guilty afterwards. 64.9% of rapists had raped more than once, and 11.1% had raped four or more girls or women.

8. Canada


It is an Amercing continent and the total reported cases of rape in this country are 2,516,918. These are only six percent of the total rape cases. It is reported that over one in three women had experienced a sexual assault and that only 6% of sexual assaults were reported to the police. According to Justice Institute of British Columbia, one out of every 17 women is raped, 62% of rape victims were physically injured, 9% were beaten or disfigured.

7. France


Rape was not a crime in France until 1980. Laws reinforcing women's rights and safety are relatively recent in France. The law making rape a crime dates back only to 1980. Earlier decrees were based on 19th century moral codes. A law on sexual-harassment was approved in 1992 and one on moral harassment was passed in 2002. The last bill to fight violence against women was passed last year. Government studies show there are 75,000 rapes a year in the country. Only about 10 percent of the victims filed complaints. France is at the 7th position with the total reported crime of 3,771,850.

6. Germany


An estimate of 240,000 women and girls has died up till now in Germany because of this crime. Germany is on the number six in the highest rape crime with the figures of 6,507,394 in this year which is really a big figure. German Catholics have allowed the morning-after pills for the victims. The country moving forward in technology is actually moving really backward in humanity.

5. United Kingdom


Many people wish to live or even visit UK as it is one of the most developed countries. But they surely must not be aware that this country is also involved badly in the crime of rape. In January 2013, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office released its first ever joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence, entitled An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales. According to report: Approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year. Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year. One in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16.

4. India


India is the place where sexual assault is rapidly increasing. Rape in India is one of India's most common crimes against women. According to the National Crime Records Bureau 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012, but experts agree that the number of unreported cases of sexual assault brings the total much higher. Out of these, 24,470 were committed by parents/family, relatives, neighbors and other known persons implying that , men known to the victim committed 98 per cent of reported rapes. The latest estimates suggest that a new case of rape is reported every 22 minutes in India.

3. Sweden


Sweden has the highest incidence of reported rapes in Europe and one of the highest in the world. One amongst every four women comes out to be the victim of rape in Sweden. By 2010, The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants. The country has third-highest rape crime in the world. In 2009 there were 15,700 reported sexual offenses in Sweden, a rise of 8% compared to 2008, of which 5,940 were rape and sexual harassment (including exhibitionism) accounted for 7,590 reports. In April 2009, it was reported that sex crimes had increased by 58% over the previous ten years. According to a 2009 European Union study, Sweden has one of the highest rates of reported rape in Europe. (source)

2. South Africa


The country has one of the highest rates of rape in the world, with some 65,000 rapes and other sexual assaults reported for the year 2012. The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the "rape capital of the world". One in three of the 4,000 women questioned by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency said they had been raped in the past year. More than 25 per cent of South African men questioned in a survey published by the Medical Research Council (MRC) admitted to rape; of those, nearly half said they had raped more than one person. Three out of four of those who had admitted rape indicated that they had attacked for the first time during their teens. South Africa has amongst the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world. If the rapist is convicted, his prison time would be around 2 years.

1. United States


The super power of the world is at the first position in the race of rapes. Males are majorly the rapist holding a proportion of 99%. Out of all the victims, 91% are females while 9% are males. The U.S Bureau of Justice Statistics states that 91% of rape victims are female and 9% are male, and nearly 99% of rapists are male. According to the National Violence Against Women Survey, 1 in 6 U.S. women and 1 in 33 U.S. men has experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. More than a quarter of college-age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14. Out of all, only 16% of the total cases are reported. Outdoor rape is not common in USA rather most of the rape cases takes place inside homes.

Note:- These stats are two years old. Here are recent stats for the countries with highest rape cases.



This is spot on. This is why India is dangerous 100 times than US for women. You dont hear women getting raped from kidnapping, strangers on streets like in India. That is some thing which can change with having law in order.

Otherwise when it comes to rape, you just cant give security for women when they are inside homes or etc.. How can goverment save them? It's the cheap mindset of men who want to overpower women without consent, you cant save those women unfortunately. But you can save women in their public life. Thats what INDIA lack 1000 times than USA and UK.

Women who travel alone during day or night, they dont have any safety , they constantly getting targetted for jokes, insults, physical abuses and even for rapes easily in India.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I don't understand why people can't make the difference between on screen and off screen. No need to parallel a role she portrayed and bring it into discussion. At that role was what...back in 1997? Come on now - that's like 18 years ago. 18 long years ago...If you're going to parallel her on screen performances vs off screen statements, why not use characters she portrayed in recent films like Mardaani for example? One's thoughts can be very different from what they show on screen. RKAB was one of her first films and her stepping stone into the industry. She took the role because she thought it would mark a start in her career. She was young, probably not at that maturity level.

As she discussed, during her childhood things were different. Mindsets were different. Sure bad incidents still happened, but it grew and increased as time went by. Things changed...for the worse. And I'm not being a blind fan - but really what is wrong in what she said? She's right to an extent. What really makes such men do such cheap, dirty, disgusting deeds...? Why stoop so low? I guess we'll never know. Maybe there is a deep, dark, dirty secret behind their behavior - which is just not acceptable at any cost. And she said it correctly - India has been talked about more of its negative aspects rather than positive ones in recent times.


Also in a serious issue thread like this, is it really necessary to bring up how she looks in the picture provided? Seriously guys, come on. This isn't a thread about her looks. Talk about them all you want in appropriate threads.


As for those having a healthy discussion, thank you guys for being mature and stating your opinions while respecting others opinions as well. :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Interesting Dissection 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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very well said!!
especially the last para where she said positive things go unnoticed and only -ve things are highlighted...there are lot of good things abt india to be known to other countries NOT just only indian men's mentality and the rape documentary!!

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