Position of Katherine's Garud Chin- She is the defender among Garudas - Page 3

Rudra deprived of love as he was growing up? You have got to be joking, my dear Shruthi!

Maimuyi's all enveloping, non-judgmental and abundant, tactile love - the hugs, the caresses, the wiping of his hands on her pallu, the umbilical cord-like bond between them - her fierce protectiveness towards her bachuwa, all this was not love? She was more loving and caring than any two average mothers put together, and far wiser too.

And Udiya Baba's wise, gentle mentoring, his being always there for Rudra when he needed him, that was not love?

And Udiya Baba + Maimuyi were there with Rudra for 12 years, and then Maimuyi was there with him for another 12. How does this constitute emotional deprivation? So many children are orphaned in their teens, and have to look after siblings, work and earn for them all. Rudra has no such responsibilities, so let us not adopt his I am shraapit line and started mourning with him. He has no call to do that, and neither do we!

Coming to Shiva's parents, look at the way Daadi greets a son she is seeing for the first time in 24 years (which she spent in a cosy yoganidra whereas he literally went thru a hell of incessant torment). Over and above the aloofness of their meeting, which I had discussed in my last post, she does not even bother to ask him where he had been all this time and how he had coped. Some love, that! I cannot imagine any mother behaving as she did.

As Sandhya wrote on my last thread, Rudra has this deeply emotional side because of the abundant love showered on him by Maimuyi. If he had been brought by Daadi, he would probably have glowered at his Baba when he first met him, exactly like Daadi does.

And why do you presume that Shiva was cocooned in love by her as he was growing up? I would bet anything she was haranguing him day in and day out about his researches, and literally driving him out of the home to his underground library to find some peace! She is an obstinate, self-righteous woman, who is convinced, like an Ekta Kapoor heroine, that she can never be wrong, and she must have been like that even as Shiva was in his teens and his early youth. Rudra was ten times better off with his Maimuyi. And perhaps Thappadiya Mai now.

Another thing. A person is focussed on an external mission because that it the way he/she is programmed. It is like the deeply deprived children in the Dickens' stories who still went on from terrible workhouses and made good, very good in fact. Shivanand owes his erudition to his family background, but his drive, his technical abilities, which are remarkable, and his very broad vision owe nothing to his upbringing or his home environment. Why did he have to build an alternative home in the Pandey baudi? Why, because he had no peace at home with both his parents after him all the time to toe their line or else!

I am not saying that Rudra should instantly adopt the mission of his baba with the commitment that his baba has. But at least he should think about it, and wonder whether perhaps his baba might be worth emulating after all. And perhaps talk to him about it, about the mission and surely about the yaatana that Shivanand tells him he had suffered for all of those 24 years. But does he even bother to ask about where his father was and what had happened to him? No, he does not.

Does the "loved one he can look up to" have to be only his Daadi? Not his father?

And we have to remember that this Rudra is not a conflicted teenager. He is 28, and that is old enough to do some thinking for himself! Instead, as of now, he seems to be too busy following his Daadi around and moping about Maya.

I think, after watching him this week, that maybe this sarvashrestha garuda is going to be the Achilles' heel of the Seven. Poor Shivanand! I hope his pride and joy shapes up soon, for with the nagas on the move, nothing can be soon enough.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Shymaladi coming from the background he has isn't it nave to expect Rudra to understand the gravity of the situation because Shiva told so.

A boy so deprived of his family from a young age of 4 what do you think he will do forced with a situation of getting that love of family or protecting some invaluable thing which exists in some legend. Put yourself in Rudra's shoes and try to understand him.

Shiva is mission focused because he was not love deprived. As a child he was loved by his parents and as a grown up man he was loved by his wife, respected by servants, knew the joy of having a child and seeing it grow up for 4 years. In other words he had enjoyed everything material before it was taken away from him.

Not Rudra. He never had anything. Everything he went near was taken away from him. So the so called imaginative danger doesn't mean much to him than able to have a loved one whom he can look upto.

But understand that he is not completely happy with himself. Something bothers him apart from Maya. He has feeling for her but it is not deep. I would say not deep enough. He is conflicted and that is what is expected out of him because as I said last week also he is a weak Garud.

Shymaladi I am not sure whether I used the right words. He remembers the bomb blast. Well something was taken away from him. Is that true. He lost both his parents. The boy remembers that. Then comes Udiya Baba. yes he got the love. Again he lost udiya baba. Was it normal. No. A brutal death. Then yes he was attached to Maimui. Again she is killed that too brutally. Then comes Maya to whom he feel attached, she goes away.

Originally posted by: KhotaSikaShreya

@ Bold: If that is true then maybe Kathryn could be that weak link. I can't seem to get it out of my mind that 2 of the Garuds are supposed to be a weak link. So far they all look so strong.

Although I have a suspicion that when she learns that she is a Garud and what that means she'll go to the right side. I feel that not everyone knows about the others being Garuds so they aren't really connecting yet.

My dear Aparna (and Shruthi too)

Thank you for saving me a lot of typing, for you have taken the words out of my mouth, or rather my cursor.

I think way too much is being made of Rudra's losses, though as you have pointed out he has got many of them back. I at least am not interested in mollycoddling this 28 year old, and weeping over him saying Poor, poor boy! There have been young people who were totally abandoned and forced into horrible lives at a very tender age, and yet they rose above those circumstances and did very well. Rudra has had it much easier, for the minute one support disappears, another arrives.

If he is indeed a shresthatam garuda, he has to do better than mope around and cling to his daadi's pallu. Instead, he should use what brains he has to think thru the points I have mentioned and those you have mentioned. So far he has shown no signs of doing any such thing.

He seems to have zero interest in the apocalyptic picture his father is painting, nor does he seem to understand that it such a scenario did materialise, there would be nothing left of his daadi's precious seva left either. If folks like Rudra were to be recruited into the army, heaven help the country! He would sit there worrying about his precious loved ones till the enemy came right in and killed them all anyway.

I am getting tired of his blank face and weepy eyes, and even the last fight was mediocre. I hope he picks himself up and actually does something, for this not the kind of world saviour I signed on for. Give me Shivanand any day!

And Shruthi, it is not a question of which he believes. He has not made any move to discuss anything with his father, nor does he seem to care a hoot about what happened to him in all these 24 years. His is not the only family in the world to have lost its members, such tragedies happen every day, thru natural and unnatural causes. The fact is that he is full of self pity, and of course his daadi is there to make things worse. Maimuyi would have jump started him and got him to actually do something instead of hanging around aimlessly.

That is why I would have liked the 'Veshes to have attacked the Brahma Nisht Panth once again, and we could have seen how daadi's amar seva was to be continued if evil was allowed to flourish unchecked.

My supplementary comments are in blue italics.

Ok, folks, this is my last shot. I am not coming back here, I am tired, literally.

Shyamala Aunty/Di

Originally posted by: appukrish

Edited by sashashyam - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: KhotaSikaShreya

The positions of the Garud Chins are all interesting me.

Rudra - in the centre of his back - He's the main Garud. That's why it covers his whole back.

Charles and Tiwari - one has it to the right, the other to the left - They are the right and left wings/hands of Rudra. Without them Rudra is incomplete and without Rudra they are incomplete.

Shivanand - head - He's the brain. He's the one who will plan the attack, the saving of the Amrit, and everything.

Kathryn - back - Like you said, she's the defense. She will come forward when it's time to defend the Garuds else she stays back.

Now I really want to see where the other Garud Chins are going to be to finish this important Garud.

First Shymaladi let me tell you with conviction he will not lose another loved one if he chooses mission. For that he will have to lose one more person which forces him into the mission. This will happen. Path he has choosen will lead to this. Because destiny is not going to leave Rudra.