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Some things are so much bigger than us that individual suffering is insignificant. Gyan is supreme and the duty of a Garuda is to protect the amrit - it has bee for many many births and that is the only fact that is significant.We need people like Dadi to protect the moral fibre of a society and a familyBut we also need people like Shiva to make sure that there is a society to protectWhat lies ahead :Today all 3 of them are living in their own towers, they must come together if the Mahakumbh is to be won, and we will see them together, I thinkFood for thought:Is Rudra by thinking only of his own pain, taking a cowardly approach, that doesn't befit a Garuda? Yes, yes, yes. Not so much cowardly, for that would mean a deliberate running away from danger, but foolishly optimistic.
I think way too much is being made of Rudra's losses. His is not the only family in the world to have lost its members, such tragedies happen every day, thru natural and unnatural causes. And then, as Aparna pointed out elsewhere, he has got many of them back.
The fact is that he is right now full of self pity, and of course his daadi is there to make things worse. Maimuyi would have jump started him and got him to actually do something instead of hanging around aimlessly bemoaning his lot in life.
I at least am not interested in mollycoddling this 28 year old, and weeping over him saying Poor, poor boy! There have been young people who were totally abandoned and forced into horrible lives at a very tender age, and yet they rose above those circumstances and did very well. Rudra has had it much easier, for the minute one support disappears, another arrives.
If he is indeed a shresthatam garuda, he has to do better than mope around and cling to his daadi's pallu. Instead, he should use what brains he has to think thru all that he has learnt so far from is baba and his daadi. He has to assess whether the status quo ante that he and his daadi crave can at all be maintained by pretending that the dangers his father is flagging do not exist.
So far he has shown no signs of doing any such thing. He has not made any move to discuss anything with his father, nor does he seem to care a hoot about what happened to him in all these 24 years. He seems to have zero interest in the apocalyptic picture his father is painting, nor does he seem to understand that it such a scenario did materialise, there would be nothing left of his daadi's precious seva left either. If folks like Rudra were to be recruited into the army, heaven help the country! He would sit there worrying about his precious loved ones till the enemy came right in and killed them all anyway.
That is why I would have liked the 'Veshes to have attacked the Brahma Nisht Panth once again, and we could have seen how daadi's amar seva was to be continued if evil was allowed to flourish unchecked.
I am very fond of Gautam, but I am getting a bit tired of Rudra's blank face and weepy eyes. I hope he picks himself up and actually does something, for this not the kind of world saviour I signed on for. Give me Shivanand any day!
Is Dadi by being consumed by her loss, being too harsh to her only son, after all, of the three, he has suffered the worst fate in the last 24 yearsshiva never thought of his parents or his wife, only of his son rudra
Yes again. It is not just that she is cold and unfeeling with him, or that she cuts Shivanand off in mid sentence and does not allow him to explain what his goal is. It is more that she seems to presume that he wants the amrit in order to achieve immortality. How can she believe that of her son if she at all knows him? And she does not even bother to ask him about how he fared all these 24 years. By all that we have been shown, she seems to have been, and to be a self-righteous Victorian martinet.
Her general attitude is "My way or the highway!", and the worst is that she seems to be deliberately trying to drive a wedge between father and son. Whence her overt sympathy and empathy for Rudra's emotional entanglements, her accusing Shiva, in front of Rudra and earlier to him at the hospital, of having led to this catastrophe, her snubbing him publicly and inviting Rudra, over Shivanand's head, to blow the conch, which must have been very hurtful for her son. All this is simply unacceptable.
I love Surekha Sikri's magisterial take on Daadi, but the character is far from flawless.
Is it because he loves his son the most, or becasue Rudra is the leader of all GarudaIs his joy at meeting Rudra the joy of a father meeting a son, or the pride of a father for siring the sarvashreshtha GarudaIs Rudra the apple of his eye or a man who is mission critical...
It is both, witness the tenderness with which Shiva looks at the prizewinning photo of Rudra's and then reminisces about that event with such joy and pride. He is no aloof, dictatorial Victorian father, is Shivanand, he is a 21st century dad even though he was torn away from active parenting in 1989 itself.
But of course Shivanand is a general in the war against evil to protect the amrit, and for a general, it is winning the war that comes first. So for him, Rudra is to be the true destroyer of evil in the titanic battle that lies ahead, and it is this that he values the most about Rudra. It is but natural.
Originally posted by: happychappy
Totally agree with Santhi's take on Rudr's strategy - he is still learning how to deal with his Baba & Dadi and (correctly) deduced which side he should appear to take for the moment. Am sure that Siva will explain and Rudr will understand but there's still a few episodes to go before we get there, I'm guessing!
Rudr is learning the hard way that things are not always like they appear to be... MM must be smiling..😊
Originally posted by: pasumarthisa
Shiva-- he never thought of anyone except his son when he was captive. That is a question mark. I started viewing MK from Dec 31 so I don't know much on what happened before. But there is no word called revenge in his dictionary. All he cares about is how to save Amrit and thinks of it as a responsibility. He is calm and measured in his words...
Originally posted by: happychappy
@Bold I think he's definitely focussed on the amrit because he realises the gravity of the situation. At that first meeting with Dadi AtkiSui, Siva said "SreeSantPanth se pratishodh lena hamari bhavna hai uddesh nahin... " I'm not what that means exactly Arshi please throw some light on what he means by bhavna here???Astha & Viswas have bn a recurring theme in this show - first appeared in that "Jal madhye kumbha. kumbhe amrit partite" song - I cannot now find it anywhere???😕Then Siva in that library scene mentions that if you have both A & V then you can achieve anything.And right now it's Dadi batting for A, Siva for V??? Guess you need Rudr to bring the two together...😊To me Astha (Faith? No Questions Asked?) and Viswas (Belief - based on facts/knowledge??) seem quite similar - what is the distinction they're making here?
Happy,
the line "SreeSantPanth se pratishodh lena hamari bhavna hai uddesh nahin... "
is such a powerful line - a stellar dialogue and a wonderful thought
The quest for revenge is our sentiment not our objective ( actually udeshya means purpose ) -
He wants Rudra to get past his anger and look at his prarabdha - the purpose for which he was born.
He is asking Rudra to let his his actions be guided not by his heart but by his head essentially
Shiva is a man who has mastered all emotions ( from the look of it, he was probably born that way) and is able to focus logically on the bigger objective)
what wonderful thoughts and words Utkarsh is giving us...
As for aastha and Vishwas - you are spot on -- aashtha means faith - devotion
and Vishwas means belief - again the difference between head and heart
Both are needed to achieve greatness!!