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Posted: 10 years ago
For the discussion the other day when there was a lot of two and fro between members regarding Rajput Princess Jodha Bai from a book it is available online


Akbar.
An Eastern Romance.
By
Dr. P. A. S. van Limburg-Brouwer.
Translated from the Dutch by
M. M.
With notes and an introductory life of the Emperor Akbar,
By
Clements R. Markham. C.B., F.R.S.
Year
1879




Akbar's wives were Sultana Rajmihal Begum, a daughter of his uncle Hindal, by whom he had no children; Sultana Sulimah Begum, a daughter of a daughter of Baber, who was a poetess; and the Rajput Princess Jodh Bai, the mother of Salim.

His children were Hasan and Husain, who died in infancy; Salim, his successor; Murad and Danyal, who died of drink in the lifetime of their father, and three daughters.

Akbar is described by his son Salim as a very tall man, with the strength of a lion, which was indicated by the great breadth of his chest. His complexion was rather fair (color de trigo is the description of a Spanish missionary who knew him), his eyes and eyebrows dark, his countenance handsome. His beard was close-shaved. His bearing was majestic, and "the qualities of his mind seemed to raise him above the denizens of this lower world."21 The Emperor Akbar combined [xxxi]the thoughtful philosophy of Marcus Aurelius, the toleration of Julian, the enterprise and daring of his own grandsire Baber, with the administrative genius of a Monro or a Thomason. We might search through the dynasties of the East and West for many centuries back, and fail to discover so grand and noble a character as that of Akbar. No sovereign has come nearer to the ideal of a father of his people

Yet another reference another source equally old


As early as 1562 Bhagvan's father, Raja Bihari Mal, the lord of Amber and ancestor of the present maharajas of Jaipur, had come to pay his homage to the new sovereign. "He was received with great honour and consideration, and his daughter, an honourable lady, was accepted by his Majesty, and took her place among the ladies of the court." Akbar had already married his cousins Rukayya and Salima, but this union with a Rajput princess marked a new policy. Her father was decorated with the highest rank of the official aristocracy, as a mansabdar, or general of five thousand horse, and the bride, freely exercising the rites of her own faith and performing the usual Hindu sacrifices, encouraged her husband's tendency towards religious toleration. Later on he took other women, Hindu, Persian, Moghul, and even an Armenian, until his harem formed a parliament of religions, though no rumour of their probable debates ever reached the outside world. Abu-l-Fazl says there were more than five thousand inmates of the harem, in various capacities, and sagely remarks that "the large number of women - a vexatious question even for great statesmen - furnished his Majesty with an opportunity to display his wisdom."

An almost immediate result of this alliance with the Rajput princess was the abolition in 1562 of the jizya, or poll-tax, which Mohammedan conquerors levied upon unbelievers in accordance with the law of Islam. His next act was to discontinue the tax upon

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Agra Gate, Fathpur-Sikri

Hindu pilgrims, on the ground that, however superstitious the rites of pilgrimage might be, it was wrong to place any obstacle in the way of man's service to God. No more popular measures could have been enacted. The jizya was an insult as well as a burden, and both taxes bore heavily on the poor and were bitterly resented.

It was the re-imposition of the tax on religion in the time of Aurangzib that, more than anything else, uprooted the wise system established by his ancestor. But while conciliating the Hindus by just and equal government, Akbar did not hesitate to interfere with some of their most cherished practices when they offended his sense of, humanity. He forbade child-marriage, trial by ordeal, and animal sacrifice; he...


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Hi all,

Recently it has been shown to us in our show that, Akbar is trying to equate himself to God.

Many of us have been wondering from where this track has been formulated ?

And the NEW Promo signifies a "changed" OLD Jalal..

On the same issue, i dug up some very interesting points and you can read them at this link.
Along with that there are ideas of some future tracks, which the CV's can use in the show..

Link : Click here to read..


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Hi all,

Recently it has been shown to us in our show that, Akbar is trying to equate himself to God.

Many of us have been wondering from where this track has been formulated ?

And the NEW Promo signifies a "changed" OLD Jalal..

On the same issue, i dug up some very interesting points and you can read them at this link.
Along with that there are ideas of some future tracks, which the CV's can use in the show..

Link : Click here to read..



Abhay

This is a great post :)

I loved it all. Esp the part where you mentioned the Rajput wives taunting Akbar. It reminded me of the following lines from the Edicts from the Mughal Harem, by S.A.I. Tirmizi, Deputy Director of Historical Archives, Government of India:

"The recipients of such madad i maash grants generally belonged to the orthodox class and as such constituted a bastion of conservatism. This class naturally came in conflict with Akbar when he began to build a new theoretical basis for his imperial sovereignty by embarking on the policy of religious tolerance and matrimonial alliances with the martial Rajputs. The Rajput consorts in the harem gained such an ascendancy on Akbar that he abstained from everything which they thought repugnant to their nature. It was probably in pursuance of this policy of religious tolerance combined with the influence of the Rajput inmates of the harem that Akbar extended the benefits of the madad i maash grants to the non-Muslim divines."

The Rajput wives had such an influence on Akbar that he gave up everything they disliked, probably like eating meat. And their influence extended to the administration also, like you wrote. Here they were able to get the benefits of land grants extended to non-Muslims. :)

I have also read that Akbar used to burn the hom or a sacred fire in compliment to his wives, the daughters of the Rajas of HInd in the female apartments and that he expected the whole court to rise up in respect in the evening as candles and lamps were lit..And that once year, he would appear in public wearing a tilak on his forehead like a Hindu and with jewelled strings tied to his wrist by Brahmans as a blessing.



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Posted: 10 years ago
Hi

Read more about the Sodha Rajput family that sheltered the exiled Humayun and Hamida Bano and in whose Umerkot palace, Akbar was born: :)


Today a scion of this illustrious (Pak) family is getting married to a scion of another great Indian Rajput family. Blessings and best wishes to the couple for a long and happy wedded life :)


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@Radhika,

Thanks for sharing those^^^^^ interesting details..Indeed Tirmizi has mentioned a lot of details in the text, which was a treat to read. :)


BTW,

@All...

I have already shared this info in my Post whose link i gave above.
But posting a snap as well. >>>

This talks about the serious revolt which Akbar faced during this time, and the situation in Bihar and Bengal was quite delicate, these regions almost passed into the hands of the rebels.

Here >>>

This information is not rocket science. The following information has been sourced from the Class-12th NCERT Book of Central Board of Secondary Education which is taught in India even to the school Students..
Some people here might be remembering it from the school days, hence thought of sharing here..

Akbar faced a very Delicate situation During this time. Rest you can read below.!!






I mentioned this info in my old history threads, but writing again here...Man Singh had less force compared to the army of Mirza Hakim.

And, Man Singh was given the "offer" of surrendering, by Mirza Hakim...

This was Man Singh's reply to Hakim. Speaks a lot about the bond of sworn-ed loyalty which Man Singh and Akbar had.-->>

" I will not break my promise to your brother Jalaluddin, who has kept this fort under my charge. If you want to try your fortune, move forth to the storm ; as I am ready to stop you. If you have faith in your greater forces, I am confident of the valour of my blood and my men, who will die thousand times sooner than surrender. If you proceed and capture the fort, I won't care for my life. I only care to be faithful to my word to my Shahenshah. "


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Posted: 10 years ago
Abhay and Radhika 👏👏👏
Very interesting 😆. I guess when more and more documentary proofs are coming to light about the influence Rajputs in general and HK especially enjoyed with Akbar - there should not be any doubt's now!

Akbar was certainly a liberal man - in those rigid times. I am sure HK was a huge influence. 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

@Radhika,

Thanks for sharing those^^^^^ interesting details..Indeed Tirmizi has mentioned a lot of details in the text, which was a treat to read. :)


BTW,

@All...

I have already shared this info in my Post whose link i gave above.
But posting a snap as well. >>>

This talks about the serious revolt which Akbar faced during this time, and the situation in Bihar and Bengal was quite delicate, these regions almost passed into the hands of the rebels.

Here >>>

This information is not rocket science. The following information has been sourced from the Class-12th NCERT Book of Central Board of Secondary Education which is taught in India even to the school Students..
Some people here might be remembering it from the school days, hence thought of sharing here..

Akbar faced a very Delicate situation During this time. Rest you can read below.!!






I mentioned this info in my old history threads, but writing again here...Man Singh had less force compared to the army of Mirza Hakim.

And, Man Singh was given the "offer" of surrendering, by Mirza Hakim...

This was Man Singh's reply to Hakim. Speaks a lot about the bond of sworn-ed loyalty which Man Singh and Akbar had.-->>

" I will not break my promise to your brother Jalaluddin, who has kept this fort under my charge. If you want to try your fortune, move forth to the storm ; as I am ready to stop you. If you have faith in your greater forces, I am confident of the valour of my blood and my men, who will die thousand times sooner than surrender. If you proceed and capture the fort, I won't care for my life. I only care to be faithful to my word to my Shahenshah. "




Thank u Abhay. Very inspiring speech by Man Singh
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Posted: 10 years ago

Hi all,

Recently in the show Jodha Akbar on February 20, 2015 , during the ongoing track it was shown to us that Akbar was drunk during a drinking party and on order to prove his bravery he makes a suicidal move by placing the sword on his chest...

When Man Singh stops him, he gets angry & almost throws him away !!...

Regarding the same incident i made an update here..
This also contains a portrait from the biography of Akbar depicting the "fight" between Akbar and Man Singh...!!

Here is the Direct Link to that Post>>::
Click HERE to READ...

The show is returning slowly to its old ways and focusing on Jodha AKbar.
Probably the CV's team is back to damage control mode.

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Posted: 10 years ago

Hi


The period when Akbar tried to assume absolute power is one of the most important and the most controversial period from his history. Sharing something about it at :


Link



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Posted: 10 years ago

Amber Fort now open at night (copyright with Hindu)


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Different hues of coloured light lend a new perspective to the Amber Fort's ambience and elegance.


Aimed at promoting night tourism in Pink City

The 16th-century Amber Fort in Jaipur has now been opened for viewing at night to promote night tourism in the city.

Amber by Night,' initiated recently by the Department of Art and Culture, presents a spectacular and mesmerising view as sombre lights illuminate it in various intensities. Different hues of coloured light lend a new perspective to the fort's ambience and elegance.

Open from 7 pm till 10 pm, Amber by Night' offers a vibrant tour of Jaleb Chowk, Diwan-e-Aam, Mansingh Mahal and Sheesh Mahal to the visitors. The facility is enhanced with lights, fixtures, additional security and a caf to provide a fulfilling experience to the visitors.

According to Pankaj Dharendra, Superintendent of the Fort, the concept has received a good response with over 200 visitors every night. Some other monuments will also be opened for night viewing in the Pink City shortly.

With the extremely high daytime temperatures, night tourism will add a new dimension to tourism in the city. "With restaurants and coffee shops, it will be quite an experience not only for foreigners but also domestic tourists who come through the year and Amber Fort is definitely an attraction," he told The Hindu. "The serene settings in the night are an experience unlike in the day when visitors are busy clicking photographs. Evenings are quite and peaceful," he explained. Only some parts of the Fort are open at night as of now.

He said adequate security arrangements have been made for the visitors, particularly the aged and physically handicapped and power back up facilities. Last year, the footfall had been more than 14 lakh.

With the Vasundhara government's focus on tourism promotion and heritage conservation, the government will introduce Rajasthan Heritage Conservation Bill in the ongoing Assembly session.

As per the Bill's provisions, the government can declare any heritage property as protected on the basis of its social, cultural, and historical importance. This will include private property in which case the government will enter into an agreement with the owner.

A State Heritage Council will also be set up under the Bill which will identify heritage properties in the State and make conservation and management rules for these.

Another article

Amber Fort now open at night

February 26, 2015

JAIPUR

The 16th-century Amber Fort in Jaipur has now been opened for viewing at night to promote night tourism in the city.

Amber by Night,' initiated recently by the Department of Art and Culture, presents a spectacular and mesmerising view as sombre lights illuminate it in various intensities. Different hues of coloured light lend a new perspective to the fort's ambience and elegance, reports Hindu.

Open from 7 pm till 10 pm, Amber by Night' offers a vibrant tour of Jaleb Chowk, Diwan-e-Aam, Mansingh Mahal and Sheesh Mahal to the visitors. The facility is enhanced with lights, fixtures, additional security and a caf to provide a fulfilling experience to the visitors.

According to Pankaj Dharendra, Superintendent of the Fort, the concept has received a good response with over 200 visitors every night. Some other monuments will also be opened for night viewing in the Pink City shortly.


I saw in TV too


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