Ishita: The swinging dichotomy of 'trust and respect'-DT NT - Page 6

Originally posted by: member

Guys, you cant compare what happened months ago when they were not really in love to whats happening now. It is Raman who makes so much sweet talk, vows, promises, and God know what all. And what has he done within the next few days? Has Raman allowed her to talk now? Was he simply not shouting screaming and blaming her? Cant he see thru his son's and ex-wife's manipulations? It seems as if Raman still has the hots for Shagun! Why did he not lodge a police complaint when his wife was getting molested and he saw it?

Looks like you are all blinded by the sexy RKB. No one in the world wud b able to put up with a husband like him!

Originally posted by: taara113

I have numbered your comments and following is the reply...sath me it might become clumsy

(1) If I do not understand why someone is saying what he/she is saying how else am I suppose to know if I don't question. If you can post your views on a public platform, why can't I question them or the reason for having them on a public platform, my question was totally directed towards the post nowhere did I ask anything personal to you. (could using the word reason in place of intent saved me ? )

You can always ask for clarification regarding the post but this was not related to my topic, rather you gunned at my intention! Heck! It's personal. Period. If you don't understand yet, say this same question to all topic makers by accusing them of distracting members.I can assure you the result won't be very pleasing one!

(2) She keeps saying them because maybe she wants to trust and respect and when she does not see it happening, it just hurts her big time. Maybe those words were more of- I know deep down you trust me and don't believe that I'm the reason behind their leaving and I know you respect me and would have never wanted me to say Sorry to Shagun but why in the hell are you quiet, why are you not saying anything; is my believe in you wrong do you really don't have any trust in me. Maybe it was dude I'm frustrated with your majboori and your ex-wife, can you please do something about it; till then I'm going to be mean to you and say nasty things. May be it can be a mix of all this and more, there is no limit to thoughts and emotions.

But as a collective scene to me it was her hurt, her pain, her husband failing her expectations and now not even acknowledging her hurt the way she was expecting, and out that she says those words...they are coming out of from a lot of sadness and not to put him down...

And I don't easily compare one time to another, the dynamics, the situations, your understanding of each other and the world around keeps on changing with time and so does your point of view... Even then as a viewer whenever she has says I don't trust you, I have seen a desperate want to trust him, and maybe somewhere she does trust him, her experience tells her that he will not do the wrong thing but it is the situation which is making her question it or something like that ( yaar my mind keeps on coming with multiple possibilities to a situation so all the rant)

See, you just said what I said in my concluding remark. For the sake of argument, I accepted that even if Raman was wrong, Ishita's opinion shouldn't bounce like a yo-yo. Either you (Ishita) have it or don't. If anyone keeps on changing her views and that too regarding strong things like trust and respect, it won't help any of them. You rightly pointed out her capricious behavior, one moment she trusts, next moment she doesn't. After some time she again wants to trust but loses it at the drop of a hat. I am okay with her not trusting Raman but I am not okay with her acting like a flip-flop coz when you distrust a person there is always a chance that you will change your view after thinking it clearly with time but if you behave like a flip-flop, you'll end up being in a viscous cycle.

(3) You don't like special treatments?

Yes. You don't ask any random topic maker about his/her intention behind the topic or don't say he/she is distracting others, I expect the same treatment for me as well, not any special one. 😉

(4) Sorry if the usage of words offended you, there wasn't any "hidden agenda" there, I will try to be more careful next time, now that I clearly know you take each and every word very seriously...ab band se nikla teer and zubaan se nikle shabd vapis to liye ja nahi sakti so well sorry is all I can say, I didn't want to offend , il try being carefull...Rules...cool il read them

Well, " your intention could be anything"..."Is your intention behind the post really to discuss Ishita's trust issues or is to give an answer(or distract) people discussing Raman's behavior?"... clearly an indication of questioning if there were any hidden agendas like misguiding people or saving(!!) Raman from bashing. Since you said sorry to me, I'm letting it go.g

(5) I have not been that much of a regular here to respond to everything and ya if I decide to discuss I would definitely question...And as for special treatment...I like reading your posts, they are fun, sometime sarcastic (I think so), they have anger, they have got mirch masala to it, a lot of other posts are either very happy happy or sad sad, fir maza nee aata in reading

Also if I read and feel something that I had to say has been said, I find hitting a like easier and sometimes I just don't bother yesterday I was in a mood to bother so I did...On a more practical note it was more of it was there on the first pg when I opened the forum, I could recognize your name I opened it read it said whatever came to mind...no rocket science... And vaise an answer to a question is not a question in return...

I will again request you to read IF rules, you can't ask anyone's (not only me) intention behind writing a post and certainly can't say (ask) that the topic maker (TM) is distracting people. I will humbly request you to remember that.

(6) Personally I feel when we discuss past we should discuss the happy things about it, kyon dukhi cheeze sochni...CV's don't remember what happened in yesterdays episode...itna purana yaad rakhna , not even if you pay them money to recollect...The characters evolve with time and then for happy viewing we should forget such nuances about every dialogue delivered 2-3 months back if its bothering you as a viewer so much...to me a lot of things are just said and done in the moment and then eventually your actions speak and every time when hell has broken they have stood with each other holding on to whatever trust there is, but moments of insecurities come in everyone's life...

Yes, CVs tend to forget what they promised but as loyal viewers of old YHM we do discuss the matters that we feel are out of place. And I mentioned the dialogues to point out the capriciousness of her behavior and thus it helped me getting done my concluding remark. Still some people had problems with that, just imagine if I had described it on my own manner how those would have reacted. 😆

(7) The path definitely matters, and the path of this show has been build by a lot of trust-mistrust issues...it has been the basis of every major track in this show barring the marriage fiasco...then be it Param times, amma's accident, mani the shani, divorce papers and all that's happening now...if there will be no insecurities there will be nothing to show...its about overcoming them and they have everytime...till they don't happy viewing...

That's the main point,na? They are going tracks after tracks but serving us same old wine of on-off trust issues of Ishita Bhalla.

(8) As you said I was welcome I responded... And I would never want to offend anyone on a personal front because I would not appreciate people doing that to me but the thing is everyone has their own understanding of what is personal and then everyone has their own way of talking where you don't realize when it gets offensive for the other person...No hard feelings

P.S. what does TM stand for, I know it's the person who initiates the post, I wanted to know the full form (see I'm not a regular I don't even know this)

Like I said, you are ALWAYS welcomed to comment in my thread as long as you follow the rules of India-Forums. 😳😛

TM=Topic Maker (I guess I wrote it twice now)