the worst they can do

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Posted: 11 years ago
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hey armans 😊


we all hv seen how ishan is shown having feelings for urmi and so... may be some of u actually like and want them to end up together...

but but but

if u ask me.. i'd say it'd be the worst thing creatives can do
why?
because of anu..
yes anu.. she loves ishan so much.. it actually feels on my heart when she gets happy thinking of her and ishan while ishan might be shown ending up with urmi

no plz no.. let anu get her love... she TRULY TRULY loves ishan... from past 6 years she has always thought of him.. loved him.. dreamed of him...
urmi surely can get a man who'd take care of her .. anyone else like ishan.. but anu.. she loves ishan so she must be with him..
what you guys prefer? anu ishan? urmi ishan?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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lets agree to disagree
samrat has also always thought of urmi since shes left. and even claimed to love her.
but thats not love


and niether is anu for ishaan. its attraction and infatuation.

does that mean urmi should be with ishaan? no.

urmi doesnt want a relationship now, she wants stability and an income to sive her son a proper life. thats it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: second_chances

lets agree to disagree

samrat has also always thought of urmi since shes left. and even claimed to love her.
but thats not love


and niether is anu for ishaan. its attraction and infatuation.

does that mean urmi should be with ishaan? no.

urmi doesnt want a relationship now, she wants stability and an income to sive her son a proper life. thats it.



šŸ‘ to ur reply 😊 šŸ‘šŸ¼



ok.. samrat claimed to be in love with urmi jst cz of his ego things... we all know that.. he jst wanted her back cz his ego got hurt nothing else

cant add anything more to ur last statement.. u said it so perfect 😊

but for anu... if that was mere infatuation it had gone by now.. like 6 years without talking to someone still thinking of them is love not attraction...
so.. she deserves ishan's love 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ Masooma Bukhari

i dont doubt anu cares alot for ishaan . BUT as we have seen in urmis case, that life we dreamed about and the life we get are worlds apart. anu has been dreaming about ishaan for 6 years.
but she doesnt know half of whats going on in his life. or even the life before he left. she knows whats she wants about him, very much like urmi with samrat.

im NOT saying ishaan is like samrat, i am just saying both sisters were very naive in thier perception of love and marriage.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I always thought Ishan had a soft touch for Urmi but we don't know anything about his life in New York. He may have someone and just because Anu claims she loves him does not mean he feels anything for her. You can't make him want a relationship with her, he wasn't interested before and I don't think he is now. She is assuming that he loves her without him even looking at her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I've come across mixed opinions over who Ishaan should be with (lucky guy in demand šŸ˜†) & to be honest, for me it isn't Ishaan-Anu or Ishaan-Urmi. It's been more of Ishaan- Urmi or Urmi & her independence.

I agree that Anu has had feelings for Ishaan for a very long time now. But CVs haven't given me a real reason to root for them. They've often seemed like a mismatch to me. Also, Anu has woven dreams but hasn't cared to find out what Ishaan feels. She still has to mature. Having said that, I wouldn't be too fussed if Ishaan & Anu are paired up with each other.

Going back to my first point, I really hope that the CVs don't rush Urmi in to another marriage or even love story for that matter. If anything, she needs to be with her new found independence & of course Shaurya. Ishaan may have a soft spot for Urmi, but at this stage it doesn't seem to be romantic. And Urmi also considers Ishaan to be a well wisher & good friend. Current scenario is appropriate.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very good discussion topic. This is something I've been pondering about as well.
I know there are conflicting views on who Ishaan should be with or how Urmi's life should turn out.

I just wanted to share my thoughts on this topic, here goes:

Lets start with the crux of the show - Urmi's journey. The show started with Urmi's rosey ideas of love and marriage and her impending marriage to wealthy, egoistic Samrat. Over time Urmi realizes her dreams and expectations of married life are far from reality and she has married an animal.

We then see the issue of domestic violence being addressed, lack of family support, victim shaming and everything else that constitutes a repressive society.
We see Urmi finally garnering the courage to stand up for herself, her self respect and fight back.

In my opinion this should remain the focus of the show - how Urmi garners courage to stand up to this brute she married, how strangers really are saviors in your time of need and how your so called own people don't flinch to turn their back on you. These are all harsh realities of life. The show is bringing this to the forefront which I believe is very good and it should be enlightening for countless women who are in this mess. It should inspire such women and give them hope of a better life and better days and break free.

In such a scenario I don't find Urmi and Ishaan pairing to be appropriate. Yes Ishaan is a better person than Samrat - he doesn't degrade women, but he did encourage the Urmi - Samrat marriage and he hid the truth from Urmi - no wonder he has a guilty conscious.

In my opinion I feel Ishaan should help Urmi as a true friend, someone who really does stand up for her and helps her. Romantic feelings are misplaced and inappropriate though yes there are instances where sympathy, kindness compassion are all mistaken for romantic interest - I really hope CVs clear that up and show that Ishaan is just being a friend to Urmi.

Based on the trajectory of the show Ishaan's entry is actually sending the wrong message - yes he is a better person, yes he means well for Urmi, yes he's a key witness to Samrat's philandering ways however his re-entry is in a way giving Urmi an easy way out.
Not that I want to see her suffer more or anything like that but why can't an adult male and adult female be platonic friends? Why is the only person that comes forward to help her - Ishaan? It could have been another character like the Tiwari's son or nephew for example - to show that yes there are good people out there and they can be completely platonic friendships.
Why does Urmi need a male "friend" or messiah? Why couldn't Trisha be reintroduced? They changed the actor that plays Ishaan why not have replaced the actress that plays Trisha?

Now coming to Anu - Ishaan angle - that is ridiculous. Anu has held a candle for Ishaan - she's thought of him, dreamed of being with him and fantasized about him.

However her feelings towards Ishaan can not be labeled as love. She was attracted to him, infatuated by him but it seems like its an infatuation that never went away.

Though I like Ishaan and have nothing against Anu i really don't think its fair to see Ishaan reciprocating her feelings - that will send the wrong message to young impressionable girls that sure hold a candle for a guy and in due time he'll fall in love with you.

Anu needs a reality check but more importantly she needs to grow up emotionally. What happened to the dude her parents set her up with - that would have been a good story line to see Anu pining away and Ishaan not responding the new guy patiently befriending Anu and showing her what true love is meant to be like - its not about the stuff u read in books or see in movies - its about the connection and two people who mean the world to each other.

Those are my thoughts - sorry for the long post!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skar1984

Very good discussion topic. This is something I've been pondering about as well.

I know there are conflicting views on who Ishaan should be with or how Urmi's life should turn out.

I just wanted to share my thoughts on this topic, here goes:

Lets start with the crux of the show - Urmi's journey. The show started with Urmi's rosey ideas of love and marriage and her impending marriage to wealthy, egoistic Samrat. Over time Urmi realizes her dreams and expectations of married life are far from reality and she has married an animal.

We then see the issue of domestic violence being addressed, lack of family support, victim shaming and everything else that constitutes a repressive society.
We see Urmi finally garnering the courage to stand up for herself, her self respect and fight back.

In my opinion this should remain the focus of the show - how Urmi garners courage to stand up to this brute she married, how strangers really are saviors in your time of need and how your so called own people don't flinch to turn their back on you. These are all harsh realities of life. The show is bringing this to the forefront which I believe is very good and it should be enlightening for countless women who are in this mess. It should inspire such women and give them hope of a better life and better days and break free.

In such a scenario I don't find Urmi and Ishaan pairing to be appropriate. Yes Ishaan is a better person than Samrat - he doesn't degrade women, but he did encourage the Urmi - Samrat marriage and he hid the truth from Urmi - no wonder he has a guilty conscious.

In my opinion I feel Ishaan should help Urmi as a true friend, someone who really does stand up for her and helps her. Romantic feelings are misplaced and inappropriate though yes there are instances where sympathy, kindness compassion are all mistaken for romantic interest - I really hope CVs clear that up and show that Ishaan is just being a friend to Urmi.

Based on the trajectory of the show Ishaan's entry is actually sending the wrong message - yes he is a better person, yes he means well for Urmi, yes he's a key witness to Samrat's philandering ways however his re-entry is in a way giving Urmi an easy way out.
Not that I want to see her suffer more or anything like that but why can't an adult male and adult female be platonic friends? Why is the only person that comes forward to help her - Ishaan? It could have been another character like the Tiwari's son or nephew for example - to show that yes there are good people out there and they can be completely platonic friendships.
Why does Urmi need a male "friend" or messiah? Why couldn't Trisha be reintroduced? They changed the actor that plays Ishaan why not have replaced the actress that plays Trisha?

Now coming to Anu - Ishaan angle - that is ridiculous. Anu has held a candle for Ishaan - she's thought of him, dreamed of being with him and fantasized about him.

However her feelings towards Ishaan can not be labeled as love. She was attracted to him, infatuated by him but it seems like its an infatuation that never went away.

Though I like Ishaan and have nothing against Anu i really don't think its fair to see Ishaan reciprocating her feelings - that will send the wrong message to young impressionable girls that sure hold a candle for a guy and in due time he'll fall in love with you.

Anu needs a reality check but more importantly she needs to grow up emotionally. What happened to the dude her parents set her up with - that would have been a good story line to see Anu pining away and Ishaan not responding the new guy patiently befriending Anu and showing her what true love is meant to be like - its not about the stuff u read in books or see in movies - its about the connection and two people who mean the world to each other.

Those are my thoughts - sorry for the long post!




I share your sentiments! Well said :)

The problem with Desi shows is that most (not all) viewers want to see romance. And I fear that the makers of the show will go down this route for Urmi & Ishaan, & it will ruin the essence of the show, & the message that is trying to be conveyed. In a recent interview, Neha Marda was even asked about a possible romance between her character & Ishaan...so I'm getting a feeling that we are heading for it.

I agree that Ishaan is a much better man than Samrat. But yes, he did hide Samrat's truth & has played a part in Urmi's current situation. Before marrying Samrat, she even asked Ishaan one last time whether she should get married to his friend, but Ishaan gave her false ideas about Samrat. Urmi didn't listen to Trisha...but had Ishaan told her the exact truth, perhaps it would have been a different scenario today. I think she would've believe him, because with Trisha it got messy.

Even I would like the writers to show that a man & a woman can be friends & can share a wonderful equation without romance involved.

As for Anu, she does need to grow up...she is still a child at heart. I think she should focus on herself as an individual & then wait for the right guy to come along...she should learn from the mistakes that Urmi initially made.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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My opinion is, Ishaan should either stay single or find somebody else. I don't really see a connection with him and Anu and as for Urmi, well after watching more interaction with him and Urmi, I have concluded that they are better off as being good friends. He can still play a part in Shaurya's life, that of a lovable uncle.


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