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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shelly_08

Looks like both me and you share a love/hate relationship with this man, Harshad. 😆


And the moment I see you writing a lamba-chaura paragraph regarding him- I forget everything else cause as you've aptly pointed out- the inner workings of his mind is an analyzer's dream!

I've always maintained that he's 'All shades of paradox'- and I'll still do that!

Today you pointed out one similarity b/w Harshad and Manik, I've been collecting similarities from the start- they share a LOT of similar traits!

For example their obsessive nature, "aath baje ki party mein aath baje kaun aata hain"? Only that in the dept of using brains, Harshad scores much higher than our beloved Baba. 😆

And like you, even I've loved Harshad from the beginning. His words will always make you think


SAME.

Which is why I'm so bleddy disappointed at what a caricature this character's become in this last week. Matlab, gone totally beyond anything I can sympathise with. I was just talking about this in the AT so will just repeat that here.

1) Harshad is a potential rapist who resorts to date-rape drugs in order to get a girl into his bed.
2) Plus he's a homophobic who has zero respect for any individual's dignity.
3) He gangs up on two defenseless guys, beats them senseless, and leaves them bleeding on the road. He sabotages equipment and puts a guy's life in danger. So add attempted murder to the list.

Which part of all this is 'redeemable' or even defendable, I'd like to know? This guy needs jail-time and therapy, and not another notch on his bedpost. Gawd. What are the writers smoking?

Just the first is enough of a deal breaker for me. I'd have understood playboy tendencies the way I get Mukti's bed-hopping, but drugging a girl's drink? Really? How does this have anything to do with Fab-5 or revenge? It's plain and simple evil, and the guy needs to be jailed for even trying.

I get revenge, and I understand his complete lack of ethics when it comes to his obsession with revenge, but seriously, if you want a character to stay in the 'grey' zone and keep the audience's sympathy at some level, there are some lines you just don't cross. Bas.

And writers, please, if you really want us to sympathise with your villain (good luck trying now after all the shit this character's pulled), please do us and yourselves a favour and show us what happened in the past instead of crocodile tears and pity-sex. Disgusting.

Edited by BoxedIn - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: lostmymusic.

#EndThisNightAlready

Because it's getting weirder and weirder.

Matlab, KUCH BHI 😳

Still, the episode wasn't bad. I thoroughly enjoyed it for various reasons though at some points my mind did go all o.O but that's a warranted thing when something is dragged beyond the elastic limit (like this night 😳)

My heart melted seeing Cabir's head on Nandini's lap. Seriously, THEY NEED TO BE FRIENDS ASAP LIKE YESTERDAY! One thing that's working in my favor is my own way of watching MaNan nowadays. I am not watching their scenes as something new but rather comparing and contrasting them with what they've already gone through. For me personally, it's more fun. Like the cheek kiss. The eye popping and that shock of "arey ye kya hogaya?!" on their faces was priceless and my mind immediately flashed to their first kiss scene. Of course, now the situations are changed but good lord, the way the parallels run in their story is just precious, so precious. But gotta say, my mind went a bit "haaiiinnn?" at the way the bit just crept in but I can understand. So what if canonically 12 hours haven't passed fully since the breakup, so many episodes have passed and fans need MaNan scenes every day, I know I do. So gotta make do with these kuch bhi moments.

Please end this night.

My favorite moment was Nandini spelling out Manik's flaw of character to him. I love it how since the beginning till now, it's only Nandini who dares and does speak about him to him. The way she gets his inner workings of his mind is so precious. My Baby is precious. Baby ilysomuch! Agreed, she didn't question his actions when it was the most needed but I have said this before, she's the girl who lost her light. She ain't gonna stop and find others' light. Can you see the way we are getting a reprise version of the initial MaNan scenes? From the point their journey started? Manik being all draggy, bitchy with Nandini. Nandini standing tall to him. Nandini spelling out the obvious flaws in his actions.

Oh screw it, Nandini saying that he acts before he thinks! SHE SAID IT! See!! I solely made this topic for this. Proud moment for me for getting Manik just right. Impulsive guy..karta pehle hai, sochta baad mein. And Nandini was there to knock some much needed sense in him. And again, Manik was speechless at the way she plainly states the things for him, about him. Babies be so amazing, how can I not love them?

Still doesn't change the fact that I want this night ended.

Manik's reflex shaking of head when Nandini said that he lied about his break up with Alya had me 😆 Despite not getting time to process and mourn properly, she has taken control over herself splendidly. Not a hint of sadness in her voice, her eyes not betraying her feelings of being used like that; she just stood there and gave Manik the hell I so wanted him to get. Yeah Manik, this is your impulse nature biting you in the ass now. But in a way I loved their little banter today. It needs two to tango and their tango hasn't ended yet. Oh, there's so much to come for them. Bitterness from her side, fake indifference from his, and their mutual memories all mixed together, I look forward to their future interactions.

Which will happen when this night will be over.

Dhruv and Alya were adorable. If I love the way Nandini gets around Dhruv (before her heartbreak), I love the Dhruv when he's around Alya. He's more in control, not the quiet guy but rather someone who carries on a witty conversation. Alya tou can't stop gushing over him and rightfully so. They be so adorable! Though Dhruv keeping little mementos of his moments with Nandini is...weird. Like, super weird.

Now, sab se important thing,

Harshad.

What is with this guy?! What is with the CVs treatment of this guy?! We get so many back to back episodes of him being an utter jerk and a typical villain and then today we get him crying and cursing Fab5 for what they've made him to be? How? Why? Kaise? YE KAB HUA?! I knew, I so knew what Harshad used to be. And I was in love with him back then. It's a common knowledge that Harshad was my first KY2 love. He was the right amount of grey with LEGIT motives behind his action. He was sweet with his friends, caring for them, having the right sense of giving up when things weren't going right and with all that, he was a man on a mission. His contrast, his inner workings; they were an analyzer's dream. Then all these episodes happened and I started to hate him despite not wanting to because he wasn't giving me anything but reasons to hate him. He had gone so beyond redemption in every way. Ab suddenly I am getting this bit from him where's crying and actually asking just how in the world did he become like this and it's too much for me to process. Should I believe that? I want to. But what he was thinking of was his humiliation. Was he hurt for being ridiculed? Or was he blaming Fab5 for making him so out of his mind that he was losing all sense of right and wrong? What makes him tick? What makes him work? Damnit! I want to know! I haven't given up on him, not after this. I am still invested in him and I just want to know.

Navya reminded me of Nandini today. I felt like she was asking the kind of questions which Nandini should've asked. Cursing and crying, why me? As much as Navya makes me cringe and vomit, I liked the way she reacted. Going straight to Harshad and grabbing him and demanding to know why he did to her what he did. I couldn't help but think that had Nandini done that, Manik ka reaction would've been different.

"Pyaar mujhse, aur trust uss video pe?"

"She believed me...just like that."

There is no comparison between the two in any other way but I loved the way we got these two scenes. Both the girls were broken for different reasons because of their guys. And they reacted so differently. And the result was so different. I don't know why Harshad gave in like that. Was him kissing Navya actually an act of emotion? Or was it plainly a result of him being in a vulnerable situation where he needed some assurance from himself that he isn't what Cabir's video painted him to be. That we'll know tomorrow.

Please, end this effin' night tomorrow. Ab tou rona aaraha hai.

Lastly, Veebha was a bloody treat to watch today. If only she had been given a more well-rounded interesting character...*sigh*


#EndThisNightAlready. Totes trendable🤣🤣🤣

That Cabir in Nandini's lap part was way too good. Is it a sign from the CVs to show the start of a beautiful friendship? I SO wish

MaNan kiss...I love that CVs are giving as tidbits of MaNan even if it's kuch bhi😳...better than rona dhona atleast

Pehle pehle when Dhruv used to be with Nandini (the bullying days) he seemed such a wonderfully crafted character to me! Ab toh whenever he comes to Nandini he gives the Guardian Angel wala bhashaan and I'm like "thoda so lu main"🥱🥱 Weirdly, I feel the same now only when he is with Alya, he is so sweet, nice and really fun to watch..now toh even Manik seems to have become his 'that awkward second best friend'😕

and the memento thing...this toh I can tolerate..bas I hope he doesn't start collecting the cups and plates used by Nandini when/if they go for a coffee or something. Talk about weird🤔

I need some more rona dhona and remorse from Harshad to give him a benefit of doubt..right now Manik (as well as the CVs) are already doing a good job confusing me..I DENY to get confused by Harshad's dukhi monologue. But yes, the guy is like a puzzle, and I've always kinda been curious to see him unfolding😳

And yes, Veebha did an amazing job. She is such a brilliant actor...I wonder when or if ever Navya will come out of her bubble..Veebha would do wonders👍🏼

I wish I got such lammmbiii nights for sleeping. Kabhi dark circles ayenge hi nahi



Par ab bas.

Yeh raat khatam ho jaaye.

KOI aur adventure nahi chahiye *shakes head vigorously*

Mujhe ugta hua suraj dekhna hain😳
Edited by rubys07 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#13
Harshad had always fascinated me as a character. I feel let down by this track. Like you said, initially it seemed like Harshad had motive and the whole he wanted to break Fab5 was really interesting. What did he or they do that was so horrible that once best friends broke up? Or what made him do something so horrible that no one could forgive him? Was he attacking them because they abandoned them when he needed them the most?

These were really interesting questions that came up.

But now. They made his actions unjustifiable almost. He wants to not just break Fab5 but destroy them on a psychotic level. It's become more crass than interesting.

And where does Navya fit into this? Why ruin a poor girls life? To break Mukthi even more? To use her as a loyal pawn?

All the KY 2 characters are grey. They have some qualities that I hate and they have qualities I love but it seems like Harshad is all black now. Unless they release the back story ofc. But even then, attacking Cabir, using date rape to get girls, playing with Navya... these things seem irredeemable. Until recently I thought Harshad, even though he wanted to break Fab 5, wasn't inherently bad. But now I can never sympathise with him as I do other characters.

Aaliya Mukthi Cabir ... all of them made many mistakes, which I don't defend but I accept it as a part of their characters. Harshad has just gone too many steps for me to ever like him on any level.

As for Manik. Oh Manik. Mean and cruel on the outside but just inherently good on the inside. He's a lot of things I don't deny that but his heart is always in the right place. Him and Nandini, even though it seems like they are back to square one, they can never go back to the way they were before exactly. They'll always remember the kiss they shared or the hug or the silent understanding. I want to believe on some innate level she know what they shared wasn't a lie but very real and very pure. Justifiabley she shouldn't just accept him or his antics but I think she can never truly hate him, she comes pretty damn close to fully despising him, but to hate him, I don't think so.

Also I keep forgetting it's only been a day. -____- Feels like weeks.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shelly_08

Looks like both me and you share a love/hate relationship with this man, Harshad. 😆


And the moment I see you writing a lamba-chaura paragraph regarding him- I forget everything else cause as you've aptly pointed out- the inner workings of his mind is an analyzer's dream!

I've always maintained that he's 'All shades of paradox'- and I'll still do that!

Today you pointed out one similarity b/w Harshad and Manik, I've been collecting similarities from the start- they share a LOT of similar traits!

For example their obsessive nature, "aath baje ki party mein aath baje kaun aata hain"? Only that in the dept of using brains, Harshad scores much higher than our beloved Baba. 😆

And like you, even I've loved Harshad from the beginning. His words will always make you think

i am also on a love-hate relation with harshad...
one queston ; why would harshad spike a girls drink? the guy is hot enough to get laid without any tricks... half of the girls in space without any objection will get in bed with him (other half will be after manik)
Edited by spnfan - 10 years ago
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Finally unresed pg 2🥱
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Originally posted by: BoxedIn


SAME.

Which is why I'm so bleddy disappointed at what a caricature this character's become in this last week. Matlab, gone totally beyond anything I can sympathise with. I was just talking about this in the AT so will just repeat that here.

1) Harshad is a potential rapist who resorts to date-rape drugs in order to get a girl into his bed.
2) Plus he's a homophobic who has zero respect for any individual's dignity.
3) He gangs up on two defenseless guys, beats them senseless, and leaves them bleeding on the road. He sabotages equipment and puts a guy's life in danger. So add attempted murder to the list.

Which part of all this is 'redeemable' or even defendable, I'd like to know? This guy needs jail-time and therapy, and not another notch on his bedpost. Gawd. What are the writers smoking?

Just the first is enough of a deal breaker for me. I'd have understood playboy tendencies the way I get Mukti's bed-hopping, but drugging a girl's drink? Really? How does this have anything to do with Fab-5 or revenge? It's plain and simple evil, and the guy needs to be jailed for even trying.

I get revenge, and I understand his complete lack of ethics when it comes to his obsession with revenge, but seriously, if you want a character to stay in the 'grey' zone and keep the audience's sympathy at some level, there are some lines you just don't cross. Bas.

And writers, please, if you really want us to sympathise with your villain (good luck trying now after all the shit this character's pulled), please do us and yourselves a favour and show us what happened in the past instead of crocodile tears and pity-sex. Disgusting.


I made a post on similar lines...but today not only in terms of Harshad I feel CVs are losing the track completely. The CVs are literally messing up not only the story line but are also ending up making a caricature of the characters.

1) Manik - He is supposedly born and brought up in Mumbai and leader of a band, a supposed bully etc. But he does not know what to say to a doctor while admitting his friend who has been attacked. How can the CVs dumb him down to such an extent? He is a senior and would have witnessed fights still he needs Nandini to tell him what to do. Give me a break. I know that he is impulsive and all but can't they show him having some maturity...

2) Nandini the great. Why is it that every time she has to be the one to know everything? Why make her so MAHAAN? She is the one who is having trouble understanding everything because all this is NEW to her but yet she knows the right thing to say every time. Today they could have given her a break and made Manik seem matured. I know she is shown as a strong person and I like her standing up for herself and others but every time in every situation even a normal person fumbles sometimes...

The coat scene I am not complaining because I am a Manan fan and it was nice to see some moments of them. But in general I would have liked if he had parked the car and then removed his coat, as that makes more sense.

3) Navya - OH GOD...she is hurt agreed but why can't she ask him about his past. When you confront a person you talk and make the other person confess, you don't end up kissing them. Why are they making her character to be so dumb? Please let her have some self respect.

4) Harshad - He told again and again -"I was not like this before." This was the right time for the CVs to show his back story atleast a glimpse of it but NO instead they felt it was OK to show Kissing and bed scenes..Arghhh

5) Dhruv and ALya - what to say again they have been shown as two dim-witted characters who are oblivious to everything that is happening around them. I do like their interactions but come on why show them as so immature.

And seriously the Love DP, I mean just to make Nandini jealous and confront him they introduce such a scene. The DP was already a blooper. Why CVs?..There are lot many ways wherein the two can have interactions on / about.

I love this show and Manan to the core. I know many of you might not agree with me especially with regards to Manik and Nandini but I really have high expectations and it hurts when the CVs stop developing the characters sensibly...

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I love your write up... It's always so well balanced with critical points. There were some very good points in today's episode which I thought was much needed. The taunt which Nandini explicitly told him about being stubborn and taking decisions without giving a thought was bang on. I am sure even he somewhere in his heart would agree to some level. He will definitely going to realize it later about his unnecessary sacrifice which wasnt required at all. I think today Nandini stole the show. The way she maturely Handled the situation was praiseworthy. The execution there was very nice.

About the kiss..? Hahahaha! I would want to ignore it as it was accidental due to maintaining your car speed. But, still even that was cute.. The best part was when she asked him about the blanket and the way he answered her stating "What?..do you think I sleep here"? Was adorable. Saw an old glimlse of Manik when he and Nandini use to fight like Tom & Jerry.

And no comments about Harshad and Navya. Harshad is one cheap guy according to me. How can one stoop this low? And he has said that he loves Mukti? I truly feel bad for that woman. She might start taking an extra anti-depressing pills from now on lol!
Edited by Manoshono - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Maisu, your reviews make me so excited😆😆😆
I feel the same with regards to Manik and Nandini, it seems like we are going back to the beginning, only this time there is love and mistrust at both ends.The journey this time is going to be harder and easier this time, harder because Nandini is once bitten twice shy and easier because there is already love. Their love came too fast, too soon for them to enjoy the phase of being in a relationship, understanding each other. The relationship developed in hidden rooms and corridors, in secret and came burdened with obstacles in the form of external factors. This time around, I believe it will be a public wooing once the Dhruni angle is truly dismissed, Manik will move heaven and earth and be vocal about his love. This time it will be their own internal factors that will prove an obstacle but their growth as individuals will help them.

Harshad and Navya : I don't know but this feels a setup for me with regards to Navya's breaking down track. I don't buy love on Harshad's part, there has been no build up to it and despite the lameness of the current track, I think the writers are smart enough to know they havent sold us on a great love story. So there is only one conclusion from this, that its being set up purposely to show Navya's breakdown

Maybe this will finally break Mukti's attachment to Harshad once and for all.Harshad deserves neither of these girls. Neither.

How beautiful were Cabir and Nandini today, Cabir's head in Nandini's lap, her taking care of him. My CabIni feels were all over the place. Like someone pointed on the AT, Cabir and Nandini's take on love is pretty much the same, I see a really good friendship here and god knows Nandu needs a friend without an ulterior motive, romantic or otherwise. Neither Manik, Dhruv, Navya or Harshad can give her this friendship and my baby needs a friend badly.Cabir needs someone like Nandini as a friend, she is the most unjudgemental person in SPACE, she accepts everyone for who they are be it Navya, Cabir,Manik or the rest of the Fab5. I would love to be her friend, because she is so unjudgemental.Also she knows how to compartmentalise, her problems with Manik aside, she doesnt let her personal problems with Manik affect her basic self, her basic humanity.She is awesomeness in all sense.

How awesome was Nandu today, she totally took charge and left Manik in her wake. For all of Manik's bluster , he needs a Nandu in his life,practical, quick thinking without being too emotional to make the situation right and this is exactly why this girl is still standing on her feet. Life has taught her very early to make the best of the situation she is in and she has made peace with it. I love her confrontation with Manik about Alya, its just been one night, so it hasnt really given her time to sort her thoughts out, so everything related to him sends out red signals and she calls him out on it. Manik is slowly understanding what he has done, that he hasnt really controlled the situation like he wants to.

For both of them, understanding will only come when the night ends, and the dawn breaks.

For us viewers, the dawn is long awaited. Like seriously give me some sunshine and some new clothes.

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