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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

I am beginning to feel that, no matter how much a man may change emotionally, mentally, behaviourally.. the heart never changes. The core, the soul of a man does never change.. Growth on the other hand is different though.. it helps one manage with the heart and life.

If the core or soul or heart never changes what is it that brings about a change?
What is it that is said to go to hell or heaven ? That which changes or that which does not?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

If the core or soul or heart never changes what is it that brings about a change?
What is it that is said to go to hell or heaven ? That which changes or that which does not?

I think it's the mind that does all the work. Sure, when heart feels pain... it is the MIND that reacts, heart only feels pain for sometime. The sensitivity of the heart has an impact on mind, time-to-time, and intensity of pain that the heart feels, that much impact on the mind...and that much will be the changes peripherally... in an effort to guard against pains/stress further, in future. (ofcourse ego is another department altogether) . You yourself observe... what do you feel about this?
The heart is one ❤️
One can only change his mentality(more mentally strong, or do things to psychologically satisfy himself), attitude, approach to events, even to improve the standard of his life ~ this is all the mental working of a man.
I think one experiences hell or heaven HERE, in his lifetime only...infact, I feel, on a day-to-day basis. It is the combined result of the actions you do, the attitude you choose to wear, and also, the attitude with which you ACCEPT anything that is thrown at you, that you feel is hell for you.. I dont believe soul's migration to hell or heaven AFTER leaving the body, that is a completely different issue altogether 😛
Zorro, I'll tell you this one incident that makes me say this...when I was 3-4, my father was operated in the gums(mouth) and I didnt know ANYTHING, my mom didnt say anything...I could only see my father, there, on that chair, with something in his mouth(cotton) and I could only cry, I didnt know why I was crying, what made me cry, I even hid myself whenever I cried thinking it was wrong but I did realise that it was making me sad(didnt know it was sadness either!) ~ and it is the purest emotion I ever felt in my life, no one told me it'd pain, even if they did I didnt know what physical pain was! I didnt know what I was feeling was "sadness"... I was only feeling... Heart is pure, it knows only love. It's mind that interferes a lot. Sorry I digress so much.
Hope I made sense?
Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

I think it's the mind that does all the work. Sure, when heart feels pain... it is the MIND that reacts, heart only feels pain for sometime. The sensitivity of the heart has an impact on mind, time-to-time, and intensity of pain that the heart feels, that much impact on the mind...and that much will be the changes peripherally... in an effort to guard against pains/stress further, in future. (ofcourse ego is another department altogether) . You yourself observe... what do you feel about this?
The heart is one ❤️
One can only change his mentality(more mentally strong, or do things to psychologically satisfy himself), attitude, approach to events, even to improve the standard of his life ~ this is all the mental working of a man.
I think one experiences hell or heaven HERE, in his lifetime only...infact, I feel, on a day-to-day basis. It is the combined result of the actions you do, the attitude you choose to wear, and also, the attitude with which you ACCEPT anything that is thrown at you, that you feel is hell for you.. I dont believe soul's migration to hell or heaven AFTER leaving the body, that is a completely different issue altogether 😛
Zorro, I'll tell you this one incident that makes me say this...when I was 3-4, my father was operated in the gums(mouth) and I didnt know ANYTHING, my mom didnt say anything...I could only see my father, there, on that chair, with something in his mouth(cotton) and I could only cry, I didnt know why I was crying, what made me cry, I even hid myself whenever I cried thinking it was wrong but I did realise that it was making me sad(didnt know it was sadness either!) ~ and it is the purest emotion I ever felt in my life, no one told me it'd pain, even if they did I didnt know what physical pain was! I didnt know what I was feeling was "sadness"... I was only feeling... Heart is pure, it knows only love. It's mind that interferes a lot. Sorry I digress so much.
Hope I made sense?

Don't know about the sense part but I liked what you wrote. Does that make sense?😆
Heart , mind , soul are all very confusing concepts.
Shouldn't it be enough if a person changes his behavior, emotion or thinking? How are we ever to know if the core/heart/soul whatever... has changed or not?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

Don't know about the sense part but I liked what you wrote. Does that make sense?😆

Heart , mind , soul are all very confusing concepts.
Shouldn't it be enough if a person changes his behavior, emotion or thinking? How are we ever to know if the core/heart/soul whatever... has changed or not?

@red --- that's part of human nature... he goes on changing as he gains experiences, it's a continuous process...some change often, some grow really well - as per their age, some grow slowly, some never show much changes...
@bold --- IDK yaar... look inside and maybe you'll understand 😛 actually, I cannot understand clearly as well, but mehsoos kar sakti hoon. It's like, inspite of all the changes... there has always been a me that has been witnessing the changes, the experiences, the ups and downs, the way I have grown, retarded, grown and so on... like a watcher, inside... ANYWAYS, now, writing all this is only making it all sound bizarre.. 😆

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