lshita and Raman - An (extra)ordinary couple!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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The past few weeks, and the current story arc has made me realize that the show, albeit exaggerated, is about relationships, and insecurities we experience in our daily lives.

The biggest rouse that people on the forum seem to have is that Ishita is spending too much time with Mani, is very close to him to the point of having no boundaries and that she is ignoring Raman. I however see it in a slightly different way. Ishita is someone who has enjoyed the freedom of making and keeping friends and relationships since a young age. Whether that was Mani as a friend, who her parents are well aware of (including that he fell for her once) or be it dating Subbu. She's well educated and the kind of faith and trust that has always been put in her, she knows better than to break it. Mani is her childhood friend. She hasn't seen him for many years and was playing catch up. That included many meetings over the days. She never hid the fact from anyone in her life, including Raman. Instead she tried to make him a part of it but he resisted. She even said something like 'you just don't care'. She was visibly heartbroken at his attitude towards her life and she made that clear. Raman has continued to resist. Through her relationship with Mani, she has found a confidante who doesn't doubt her or reprimand her and who knows her for who she is. He's always been by her side when she was younger, and they continue that relationship even today. That she called him for Romi and Sarika did not surprise me. It isn't something she has the comfort to share with Raman yet, he hasn't shown her that trust and instead has categorically told her he wants no part to play in it. She would have ideally called Mihika, but Mani is a better friend and I you have such comfort more with your closest friends than your cousins, they help keep your relationship separate from family.

The question then arises is that has Ishita behaved any differently with Raman since Mani has come back? My answer would be no. She's still always there, in the same capacity that she has always been. He still taunts her and ridicules her and she continues to accept it. Further, she has been more excited around him and for him, and at any time she showed it, it was shot down by Raman. Ishita even asked him about loving again and he told her clearly, in no uncertain terms that he wouldn't ever fall in love again. She has been showing it, evidently, that she feels something for him. And has confided in her friend because she doesn't think she can say it to her husband yet, because it will be dismissed and not reciprocated.

So then what has changed? The change is Raman. When Raman doubted her on the necklace, she clarified that she can't believe he thought that way about her. She told him at the accident site that did he ever think what would happen to her when he lied about it? She was hysterical and showed that side of insecurity and anxiety to him. He has never shown how he feels instead he continues to put a wall in front of him and does not let Ishita enter that space. If he has insecurity about Mani and Ishita, his way of showing it is to continue to act the same way he did before he realized he was in love. That means Ishita has no idea whatsoever. Which also gets me to another point, is the love Raman today feels for Ishita any different from the love he felt for Shagun? He has the same doubts, same reactions to heartbreak and an added certain distance. Does he feel more passionately about her or realize it's a different love? He said he's made the same mistake twice, so is it the same feeling for him this time around as well?

As for Ishita and Mani, we all have friends like this. And only until our partners let us know of their insecurity do we make the choice of putting our family first and distancing the friend. Until we know, we don't see anything wrong in it. Especially because we know the friend for much longer since our partners. Ishita, in my mind, has done nothing out of character. She meddles in others matters, she goes the extra mile to save people she loves, and she admits she sometimes doesn't have the best thought out way of doing that and it falls short. But that is her! And Raman is aware of that.

Wow, that's a long post. But I had to put out the perspective. Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to seeing the role reversal, of the man saying her loves the woman and she not having the ideal reaction. Shows always show it the other way round :)


Would love to hear everyone else's thoughts as well :)


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very well written and my perspective too...
While I do not acquit Ishita, completely...she is acting very dumb...sadly oblivious of pertinent hints by Raman on Mani...
Wonder where has the smart woman in her gone ????
I have also felt that one of the reasons Ishita has been vary of confiding anything in Raman is the 'Wall' you rightly put.
Ishita has never got a promising reaction whenever she wanted to share something or do something.
We are willing to give Raman the benefit of doubt because we know deep down he appreciates and admires Ishita. He has confessed to himself and probably to the viewers.
This being the case Ishita should also be given the same advantage given the fact that there is nothing beyond Raman that she sees or thinks...
Mani is just a medium for her to vent out/share her thoughts and feelings...there is nothing more to it anyway...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree. The benefit of the doubt needs to be given because while we as audience have been shown certain sides of Raman, Ishita has not. Also, everyone needs someone to talk to, and that isn't always your spouse, and in the case or Raman and Ishita, while they would both want it to be each other, they aren't there yet.

Ishita is certainly being oblivious to certain things, but I also feel that she genuinely doesn't feel anything is amiss until it will be told to her! Haven't we all needed that sometimes? To be explicitly told.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Would love to hear more viewpoints!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I totally agree with you.

I watch the show for RKB. Simply an amazing character and so strong most of the time. His main weaknesses are his son adi and his past. It took courage for him to admit that Adi was responsible for the accident and I felt that that was a turning point in the show. But this is a hindi serial, which runs on 6 out of 7 days. I can understand that the CVs need some filler tracks, some tracks which drag, and maybe from their perspective, it's too soon for confession. Not from ours obviously :)

I liked the evolution of Raman's character up to Mani's entry. He has never admitted his feelings for Ishu, not even to himself. No hint has been given. The development of Ishu's feelings have been clearly depicted. As for Raman, when did he realise that he was in love??? We got an admission in a bar??? No self-realisation nothing! I'm not saying that he wasn't falling for Ishu - this has been implied; but it was not shown from Raman's perspective.

Enters Mani - Raman discovers the feelings of jealousy.
Mani tells Raman that he isn't a good husband so Raman googles and jots down some steps on how to be a good husband. Such a ridiculous track IMHO.
Raman fasts for Ishu. We all thought that we had finally got our karva chaut scene. But no, Mr. RKB overhears part of his wife's convo with Mani and starts having doubts???

He had never doubted his wife before: e.g Param track. Got a blank but I'm sure there are many more examples. he has always stood up for Ishita. Are his insecurities the reason for acting so out of character or did the CVs need some filler eps?

Ishita's friendship with Mani. It's true that most of us have a Mani in our lives, but when we get a partner, we do understand that we cannot give so much time and importance to the Mani in our lives. Maybe Ishita did not realise this as she does not have a normal relationship with her husband. Even Raman said that Ishu speaks so freely with Mani but has never spoken like this to him. When would she Raman? With all ur taunts, ur habit of not listening to her...is it any wonder that she turned to the Mani in her life? As a woman who's in love, I would have felt very hurt with Raman's attitude.

In a way, I'm not ready for confession track as I feel that Raman's realisation that he's in love with Ishu track has been rushed. Any why compare Ishu with Shagun? There's no comparison. You can't be so bitter that you don't realise that these 2 are as different as night and day. Ishu never does anything for herself. It's always others first. And Raman understood that. But he's had amnesia during the Mani track.

Oh well, I had to rant a bit too. Sorry if none of the above made any sense.

At the end of the day, I'm a RKB fan, and officially a KP fan. Chalenge jaha CVs le jahenge but please no-nonsense or TRP-nonsense track.

The show's called Yeh Hai Mohabbatein and not Yeh Hai Nafratein; so plz show us the love :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Spero, could not have put it any better. Raman's character, in my opinion, is the one the CV's need to develop better. I find Ishita's character is fairly well developed (though sometimes over the top due to it being a Hindi serial). You expect the things she has done the past weeks from her character, they don't surprise. But Raman suddenly saying he's in love with her, where and why is that coming now?
Is it because Shagun made taunts and he needs to prove to himself he is better than two women potentially leaving him? Because he needs to be the powerful one in this relationship because being the weaker one made him loose Shagun, or so he thinks? I think Raman is a decently selfish character. When he has decided he loves Ishita, he wants her to be by his side. When he decides he doesn't want love in his life, his disregards her existence as his partner completely and keeps her as Ruhi's mom. Where does Ishita really feature in his life? And if she does, what has he done to make her feel valued? Even the karva chauth episode, she felt valued and he took that away from her with his words and subsequent actions.

I'd love to see a track of how and why Raman fell in love with Ishita. I'm glad we've been able to be a part of Ishita's journey from strangers to friendship to love. Would love to be a part of Raman's as well :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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When it comes to Raman's character, I kind of trust the CVs and Karan Patel. They have almost always done justice to his character, and they rarely disappoint me. Very rarely do we get a strong male character in hindi serials, and we are lucky in this respect. And I don't think that Karan will take crap from anyone and let anyone destroy this character.

What does disappoint me is the evolution of Ishra's relationship. There is a lack of maturity in the way this relationship is portrayed. Before any1 decides to bash me, I love Ishra and all the moments between them. From a logical point of view, it feels like the CVs don't know how to take this relationship forward. I do understand their reluctance as once love has been confessed, ridiculous plots are shown in most hindi serials.

I've read some crazy predictions on this forum about the forthcoming track But I'd like to keep my faith in the CVs. The show's title is Yeh Hai Mohabbatein. The show's about Ishra and Ruhi. CVs will be crazy to separate them. And I've said this before: it makes absolutely no sense for Raman to go back to Shagun, even for Adi's sake.

I think our wishes will come true and we'll soon see Ishra's relationship from Raman's point of view. I don't want CVs to rush this track. Raman will have to regain Ishita's trust, and Ishita will need to learn to talk to Raman. She can't rush to Mani for every problem. Raman needs to become her best friend and same applies to Raman. These two need to lay the foundation for their relationship, and sirf ruhi' ke liye is not enough.

On another note, I miss Ruhi in the show. Is it exam period? Where's the little angel?

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