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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Jyoti, this is a very insightful post on all the characters. You have caught the key points of their personalities perfectly!👏
But see here there's one topic that really made me think. We know that Vikram hates "doormat" women and likes his own non-nonsense Naani because she is not your typical doormat.
As for Shobha, there were two seemingly conflicting advices she got yesterday. Her mother said "stay in the marriage and don't rake up issues" while her friend said "accept the truth of what's happened and move on". It seems as if the mother is telling her to be a "doormat" while the friend is telling her to be the opposite.
But if you see both advices are actually asking her to be a doormat only, because it is not really the opposite of a doormat to walk out of the marriage either!
Here I feel Vikram may be the only one telling Shobha "Neither should you stay and be silent nor should you walk out. To be a non-doormat, you have to stay in the marriage but fight the man. Take him to court and strip him of every naya paisa. Put up a fight for rights and don't let him slip off the hook so easily. Do you have the guts to fight him tooth and nail to avenge your self-esteem?"
And in return I think Shobha will say to him "What you are asking me to do, why did you not do yourself in your relationship? Why did you let your woman slip off easily and why did you not put up a fight and try to make her see what you are trying to make me see? In a way you too have been a doormat if you walked away from something instead of getting what you wanted by putting up a good fight with life!"
I think this story may not be the superficial idea of what is commonly considered a doormat ... I think these two people will be forced to question the idea of what is really a doormat and see that neither 'staying silent" nor "walking out" is a sign of strength. Staying in a situation and fighting it is also an option and it may be more difficult than walking out and pretending you are not a doormat!
Don't know if I made sense here?



Mansi u made perfect sense 😃 .. thats a fab take on what might happen in future assuming Vikram had a past relation too with some girl who might hv betrayed him 🤔

U made a very interesting point about Usha here .. yup indirectly she too asked Shobha to just accept and move on instead of fighting for her rights .. If Usha had asked Shobha to divorce the guy and ask for alimony by stripping him off in court as thats what he deserves , then we can say ok as a woman thats the right advice one can give to a friend but in this case though Usha helped Shobha in coming out of her denial but she actually asked her indirectly to keep quiet and accept it all as part of her life .. Mayb she was more direct compare to her mother but it was more or less same advice .. u do hv a point here 👍🏼

Mayb thats one reason why Vikram's words left more of an impact on Shobha compare to Usha or her mom's words .. When Vikram spoke about how women r doormats and lacks that fighting spirit .. they just quietly accept it all ... thats when Shobha decides to find the truth .. so what Usha or her Mom could not do , Vikram managed to do it ...

But hving said that its also right in a way that if Vikram in the past was betrayed by some women , why dint he go around fighting for it .. Why was he quiet then and now stereotyping or venting out his frustration on all women .. Of course we r assuming this bit but if its true then Shobha in future will definitely counterattack Vikram on this and it will b interesting to see their banter on this subject of doormat .. its not just women who r doormats .. Men too can b at times 😛😆
Edited by jyoti06 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: jyoti06



Mansi u made perfect sense 😃 .. thats a fab take on what might happen in future assuming Vikram had a past relation too with some girl who might hv betrayed him 🤔

U made a very interesting point about Usha here .. yup indirectly she too asked Shobha to just accept and move on instead of fighting for her rights .. If Usha had asked Shobha to divorce the guy and ask for alimony by stripping him off in court as thats what he deserves , then we can say ok as a woman thats the right advice one can give to a friend but in this case though Usha helped Shobha in coming out of her denial but she actually asked her indirectly to keep quiet and accept it all as part of her life .. Mayb she was more direct compare to her mother but it was more or less same advice .. u do hv a point here 👍🏼

Mayb thats one reason why Vikram's words left more of an impact on Shobha compare to Usha or her mom's words .. When Vikram spoke about how women r doormats and lacks that fighting spirit .. they just quietly accept it all ... thats when Shobha decides to find the truth .. so what Usha or her Mom could not do , Vikram managed to do it ...

But hving said that its also right in a way that if Vikram in the past was betrayed by some women , why dint he go around fighting for it .. Why was he quiet then and now stereotyping or venting out his frustration on all women .. Of course we r assuming this bit but if its true then Shobha in future will definitely counterattack Vikram on this and it will b interesting to see their banter on this subject of doormat .. its not just women who r doormats .. Men too can b at times 😛😆

Yes Jyoti, that was exactly the point I was trying to make. If the storyline takes this deeper view of the word doormat it will be good, otherwise the word 'doormat" is just a cliche!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
Hey Jyothi, 🤗
Thanks for the detailed update of the episodes. I read your first episode post too. Both the posts are brilliant. I love your emotions at right places. 😛 It adds to the effect. 😆

Am unable to watch the show at the given time and repeat timings are too odd. So it is great to read your posts and get to know the details. Also it reminds me of Geet days when I used to read your long fantastic posts. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn.

Hey Jyothi, 🤗

Thanks for the detailed update of the episodes. I read your first episode post too. Both the posts are brilliant. I love your emotions at right places. 😛 It adds to the effect. 😆

Am unable to watch the show at the given time and repeat timings are too odd. So it is great to read your posts and get to know the details. Also it reminds me of Geet days when I used to read your long fantastic posts. 😊



OMGG Shweta How r u 😲😲🤗 .. u need to get into your zone soon .. this bottle green dont look good on u hmphh 😔 ...

U can catch the online videos actually .. the show is really worth a watch .. actors r all good and a strong storyline too .. at least first 4 months I guess it will remain good .. then dunno 😆

And yup felt like writing for a show after a long time too 😳 ..

want to know your thoughts too on the show .. so try watching it online mayb 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I could not watch it yesterday but I just want to comment😛 so that o m a regular one to comment 🤣🤣 hope you don't mind Upmaa.. 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Misek-

I could not watch it yesterday but I just want to comment😛 so that o m a regular one to comment 🤣🤣 hope you don't mind Upmaa.. 😳



Yes I will mind 😡... how dare u ask for permission .. grrr 😡... just gatecrash daily in this post 🤣...

And watch the epi .. it was really good .. Sonali was at her best yet again and Vikram was also at his wacky best 😆
Edited by jyoti06 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just thinking yes Anger Denial Acceptance did have its reasoning but when Usha says Move on thats a tuff word for a woman who is wedded for the 9 long years to a man whom she has lived this so called blissful life yes he cheated & kept these other side unnoticed to her thats the reason the following day she fumes at Tarun & now takes the decision in her hands that my children & my family need me to take a Stand & i need to step out & make my recognition.

The move on is a strong word at present but how Shobha will make use of it for her own life & her dear ones who are her children is the challenge on her plate!!

But one must also remember this same Move On will come back questioning her one day when she makes a decision about what she wants after she feels she achieved what she is thriving for now !!!

So as viewers Usha's words making an impact has a heavy load on Shobha!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice post 👏

First of all I completely agree with ur last line ...tht I hope Cvs n the makers don't mess this show up ..it's nice the way it it , TGW Indian version n I m loving it so far, ESP Sonali n Apurva

Now coming to the contrast tht has been blatantly put out in the last few epis is the way shobha 's life has Changed and although it looks like its Changed for the worse , but in due time she will know its for the good ...

The upcoming change being reflected in the diff how vikram and Samarth have been shown, not only in the way they think but also the way they react and see life

While Samarth is goody goody on the face, he is an MCP, who feels women need him and hence he can take them for granted and vikram although outright rude n downright in ur face, employs women and criticses them for the bad and WILL EVENTUALLY praise them for their good too ...a man who doesn't get Besotted with the luxuries of life unlike Samarth ...and believes in standing up for himself ..will surely be THE man for shobha in all the sense.

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