I LOVE JodhaAkabr - 24 - Mod note Pg11&15 - Page 3

Originally posted by: history_geek

Read your post...Some Good thoughts there.. :)
I want to write about Leap..

For me JA is simply JA, and nothing else...I have been so much engrossed in Jodha and Akbar, and i have devoted so much of my resources(not only monetary but otherwise also) that i have no words to tell you... I will be really heart-broken if they skip those well defined tracks from real life events...If they introduce the CRAP CALLED Salim-Anarkali , i think this serial is bound for a doom.!!. I will "lose interest" in REEL JA...S-A will NOT do any good..It will reduce the space for Akbar and Jodha..

I do not know the reasons for LEAP (if any)...But only passion can not be the reason for a Leap.. Majority of Audience(here and out of our forum also) are quite happy with the 'kind of passion' the CV's are depicting...TRP's are more or less same...There is SO MUCH to show, in JA..I do not know why are the makers skipping these tracks...Perhaps, they can not afford to show all the wars of Akbar, and esp some "dreaded" wars, like Chittor, etc. This is what my hunch is...Why can't they show those trips of Jo-Ja to Ajmer , etc.?. They are skipping that Empire expanding period..Why.?. They are totally leaving that MP track and Chittor, etc...They are "quite nicely" leaving these incidents from Akbar's life and focusing on other aspects, that too by making it ULTRA-positive.!!!. But Now, slowly, of late, they are portraying ONLY one version/shade of Akbar...And, this is the reason i see for the Leap, for they can not afford to show that Brutal Empire expansion period.. I want them to show HIM not as a SAINT, but Like an Emperor , who can be as brutal as ANYTHING and KIND as well .!!.

But they are showing him angry only to by mollified by Jodha or a saint these days.😭 The Emperor is totally missing.

For Ex: Akbar took title of Zil-e-Illahi after 1584..But here he is shown to have this title since 1562..!!!!..He threw away the power of Maulvis in 1578-79, but here they have shown it too early...!!!!!!!!..
They have preponed his reforms, barring slavery/Pilgrim Tax...CV's are skipping those cruel wars and are not able to balance the scales in depicting the shadeS of Akbar..The budget is one of the reasons, but i do not agree that it is the sole reason...

Akbar was Tedha , but not like this..If you have seen the Nur Jahan serial of DD, you will understand..That was Akbar and that was Jodha...I do not see an inch of Tedha-ness in present Akbar of our serial.!. I saw a glimpse of Jodha i concluded , in previous week, after MA's Curse..

It was the initial episodes of J-A where i saw Tedha Akbar, and a FIERCELY strong Emperor.!. There also the CV's HAD focused on the Human Side of Akbar but it was Balanced with the Political Machinations.!.

Don't remind me of those lovely 80 episodes...That was the Jalal and Jodha I thought I would see till the end. Remember, how gracefully Jodha snubs Jalal when he disguises himself as a fakir during her Ambe Ma temple visit? And Jalal's talks with Bharmal...that was Tedapan, even more than the Ratanpur Qila. The Atifa track was full of cheeseholes.😕

Anarkali - is a totally fictitious story... Salim was not Akbar BUT he was not a zealot also...He embibed many good qualities from his parents...He revolted for different reasons...Instead of dispelling that misconception, the PH/Ek is re-enforcing it...They can show, that after Akbar if anyone surviving was "somewhat" tolerant, then it was Salim..Instead of improving his image, the makers are again reducing him...

When they did not spare Akbar, tho Salim kya cheez hai? I only hope they don't end up with Anarkali voicing istree samman.

About the TRP's...I do not see any major problem..The serial is consistently performing in top 3 (or lets say top 5 consistently..) And all this, despite the fact that we all here , keep "kosofying" the CV's..LOL.. No matter many of us are fed up, but we still discuss this serial here..Isn't it.?. ;p
For we all are addicted to this serial..😆

A strong Jalal, a graceful Jodha , empire expansion, disguise trips of Jalal-Jodha, Navratnas esp Birbal, other reforms, little wars here and there, Mirza Haakim Mahachuchak track has to be wound, Maulvis revolt, then Akbar's religious discussions with many religious leaders...(even the 3 hr movie showed us a glimpse of that😕)how much more can be shown...😕To the best of my belief, EK doesn't dare to show Chittore war from Akbar's point of view, that is why she is opting for the leap.😡

I think we should wait...Even if the actor is finalized, we do not know, when will the Leap take place. Also, what if the actor is chosen for a different role other than Salim.?.😉

I can happily quit then.😃

Originally posted by: preetgurti

charu brilliant theory u know I had same thought u know I thought hoshiyar also involved in
I don't know why I felt this
but somehow I am feeling akdha planted as ruq might blurt out her and wn intention infront of all in her frustration
she can't play all time kabhi phootegi naa

Originally posted by: history_geek

Read your post...Some Good thoughts there.. :)
I want to write about Leap..

For me JA is simply JA, and nothing else...I have been so much engrossed in Jodha and Akbar, and i have devoted so much of my resources(not only monetary but otherwise also) that i have no words to tell you... I will be really heart-broken if they skip those well defined tracks from real life events...If they introduce the CRAP CALLED Salim-Anarkali , i think this serial is bound for a doom.!!. I will "lose interest" in REEL JA...S-A will NOT do any good..It will reduce the space for Akbar and Jodha..

I do not know the reasons for LEAP (if any)...But only passion can not be the reason for a Leap.. Majority of Audience(here and out of our forum also) are quite happy with the 'kind of passion' the CV's are depicting...TRP's are more or less same...There is SO MUCH to show, in JA..I do not know why are the makers skipping these tracks...Perhaps, they can not afford to show all the wars of Akbar, and esp some "dreaded" wars, like Chittor, etc. This is what my hunch is...Why can't they show those trips of Jo-Ja to Ajmer , etc.?. They are skipping that Empire expanding period..Why.?. They are totally leaving that MP track and Chittor, etc...They are "quite nicely" leaving these incidents from Akbar's life and focusing on other aspects, that too by making it ULTRA-positive.!!!. But Now, slowly, of late, they are portraying ONLY one version/shade of Akbar...And, this is the reason i see for the Leap, for they can not afford to show that Brutal Empire expansion period.. I want them to show HIM not as a SAINT, but Like an Emperor , who can be as brutal as ANYTHING and KIND as well .!!.

For Ex: Akbar took title of Zil-e-Illahi after 1584..But here he is shown to have this title since 1562..!!!!..He threw away the power of Maulvis in 1578-79, but here they have shown it too early...!!!!!!!!..
They have preponed his reforms, barring slavery/Pilgrim Tax...CV's are skipping those cruel wars and are not able to balance the scales in depicting the shadeS of Akbar..The budget is one of the reasons, but i do not agree that it is the sole reason...

Akbar was Tedha , but not like this..If you have seen the Nur Jahan serial of DD, you will understand..That was Akbar and that was Jodha...I do not see an inch of Tedha-ness in present Akbar of our serial.!. I saw a glimpse of Jodha i concluded , in previous week, after MA's Curse..

It was the initial episodes of J-A where i saw Tedha Akbar, and a FIERCELY strong Emperor.!. There also the CV's HAD focused on the Human Side of Akbar but it was Balanced with the Political Machinations.!.


Anarkali - is a totally fictitious story... Salim was not Akbar BUT he was not a zealot also...He embibed many good qualities from his parents...He revolted for different reasons...Instead of dispelling that misconception, the PH/Ek is re-enforcing it...They can show, that after Akbar if anyone surviving was "somewhat" tolerant, then it was Salim..Instead of improving his image, the makers are again reducing him...

About the TRP's...I do not see any major problem..The serial is consistently performing in top 3 (or lets say top 5 consistently..) And all this, despite the fact that we all here , keep "kosofying" the CV's..LOL.. No matter many of us are fed up, but we still discuss this serial here..Isn't it.?. ;p
For we all are addicted to this serial..😆

I think we should wait...Even if the actor is finalized, we do not know, when will the Leap take place. Also, what if the actor is chosen for a different role other than Salim.?.😉

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Thank you Maddy , for putting together , a nice collection of posts . I appreciate your gesture of including mine too .

I loved Chitterati's quote by Rumi . Applies perfectly to Jodha and Jalal .

I watch Jodha Akbar only to see Jodha and Akbar ( Paridhi and Rajat ) , period . If the leap happens , I will stop watching . Making a leap , will be the biggest blunder that EK will be committing . The kind of love and fan-ship that the current leads have is unimaginable . Their screen presence and 'chemistry' is awesome . The TRP will dive with the leap , not go up at all .

Maddy , after watching the maha episode , I had mixed feelings .

I thought Jodha looked lovely in the blue lehenga choli .

I think that both Jalal and Jodha, have suspected something fishy about madam Rukku already . They have discussed this matter privately ( which may be shown later as flashback ) . Hence this act of being very normal as if they are unaffected by her insensitive request and 'farmaan' etc . We saw Jodha playing with Rahim , Jodha learing verses from the Holy Quran and Jalal reciting verses from the Bhagvad Gita to Jodha . ( I loved their scene together ) They may be putting up this act so that no bandhis or harem wasis suspect their motives and tattle to Rukku .

Rukku insisting on Hoshiyar Khan being at Jodha's service , is a huge mistake . He knows her 'real' intentions ( thanks to Rukkus' bragging session) and absolutely loves Jodha ( remember , Jodha was instrumental in securing a respectable position for the khwaja seras and celebrating their birthdays ). We do not know in which angle the Creatives may take this aspect forward .

Rukkaiyya forcing Jodha to undergo the 'nazar' removing ritual , also may have Jodha wondering about her overt concern The funny part is Rukku wanted all the 'kala saaya' to leave Jodha . In the process she was actually cleansing Jodha off all her own evil effects . Thank you Rukkaiyya .

The precap where Jalal and Jodha are discussing girl names may be just a step forward in confirming their suspicions about Rukkus' motives .

I may be way off with my predictions , but somehow felt that the shrewd Jalal has already suspected something weird going on . Unlike his secretive method of exposing Atifa , he may take Jodha into confidence , this time round because the matter directly involves her too .

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Happy Lazunday Maddy (though it is sunny, usually Sundays are always lazy for me😆)

I am glad that you loved my posts dear. Thanks for posting it in your thread.😃

This post is the 1000^th one and special for me, thanks to all my buddies for their love and support...I am blessed to have them.😊

Regarding the Maha episode(ME), I would rather call it a Maham episode(ME).You know there is nothing "maha" in our MEs always 😆

You see it still contained some key points for me atleast, inspite of a filler episode.😉

"Highly sensitive people are too often perceived as weaklings or damaged goods. To feel intensely is not a symptom of weakness, it is the trademark of the truly alive and compassionate

The reason what I have for both Jodha and Jalal not able to identify Ruuqaiya's evil intentions is this- JAZZBAAT (Although Jalal partially has some scent of what Ruqaiyya is upto 😉 )

"Sometimes when you pick up your child you can feel the map of your own bones beneath your hands, or smell the scent of your skin in the nape of his neck. This is the most extraordinary thing about motherhood - finding a piece of yourself separate and apart that all the same you could not live without."

I see no wrong in Jodha's decision and her citing of example regarding how Shri Krishna was brought up by Devi Yashodha(provide that Ruqaiyya was not evil).Jodha very well understands that a women is only complete when she becomes a mother and that ehsaas is the most valuable gift of God from which Ruqaiyya was denied.

The iterations of Ruqaiyya's deeds are reflecting her evil intentions and I just hope Jalal gets the right cord and just terminates the loop by punishing her because-

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."
Abraham Lincoln

So many people in the forum, having various views about Jodha telling lies and trying to save Maham.I do understand them and agree their POV regarding how Jodha must take care of herself in her pregnancy and how she should not go to Maham repetedly as she was the curser of the twins death and gaddar of Mughal Sultanate.

Yet,I have to say one thing here,

"I don't want to live in the kind of world where we don't look out for each other. Not just the people that are close to us, but anybody who needs a helping hand. I cant change the way anybody else thinks, or what they choose to do, but I can do my bit. Those who are happiest are those who do the most for others."

As Jodha explains to Moti there is a factor called SANSKAAR and MANUSHYATA,waise kabhi,kabhi bhalai ke liye jhooth bola jaa sakta hai.Moreover Jodha had a reason that she wanted to give Maham Anga a reason to live.

For the leap(I am also not much eager to it as we have to see many things before it) I would like to anticipate the future happenings of the show with enthusiasm. 🥱

Until then folks-

"What we call the beginning is often the end.And to make an end is to make a beginning.The end is where we start from."

T.S. Eliot

P.S: I have my doubts on both the farmaans,I reserve my comments for that.😉

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Happy Lazunday Maddy (though it is sunny, usually Sundays are always lazy for me😆)

I am glad that you loved my posts dear. Thanks for posting it in your thread.😃

This post is the 1000^th one and special for me, thanks to all my buddies for their love and support...I am blessed to have them.😊

Regarding the Maha episode(ME), I would rather call it a Maham episode(ME).You know there is nothing "maha" in our MEs always 😆

You see it still contained some key points for me atleast, inspite of a filler episode.😉

"Highly sensitive people are too often perceived as weaklings or damaged goods. To feel intensely is not a symptom of weakness, it is the trademark of the truly alive and compassionate

The reason what I have for both Jodha and Jalal not able to identify Ruuqaiya's evil intentions is this- JAZZBAAT (Although Jalal partially has some scent of what Ruqaiyya is upto 😉 )

"Sometimes when you pick up your child you can feel the map of your own bones beneath your hands, or smell the scent of your skin in the nape of his neck. This is the most extraordinary thing about motherhood - finding a piece of yourself separate and apart that all the same you could not live without."

I see no wrong in Jodha's decision and her citing of example regarding how Shri Krishna was brought up by Devi Yashodha(provide that Ruqaiyya was not evil).Jodha very well understands that a women is only complete when she becomes a mother and that ehsaas is the most valuable gift of God from which Ruqaiyya was denied.

The iterations of Ruqaiyya's deeds are reflecting her evil intentions and I just hope Jalal gets the right cord and just terminates the loop by punishing her because-

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."
Abraham Lincoln

So many people in the forum, having various views about Jodha telling lies and trying to save Maham.I do understand them and agree their POV regarding how Jodha must take care of herself in her pregnancy and how she should not go to Maham repetedly as she was the curser of the twins death and gaddar of Mughal Sultanate.

Yet,I have to say one thing here,

"I don't want to live in the kind of world where we don't look out for each other. Not just the people that are close to us, but anybody who needs a helping hand. I cant change the way anybody else thinks, or what they choose to do, but I can do my bit. Those who are happiest are those who do the most for others."

As Jodha explains to Moti there is a factor called SANSKAAR and MANUSHYATA,waise kabhi,kabhi bhalai ke liye jhooth bola jaa sakta hai.Moreover Jodha had a reason that she wanted to give Maham Anga a reason to live.

For the leap(I am also not much eager to it as we have to see many things before it) I would like to anticipate the future happenings of the show with enthusiasm. 🥱

Until then folks-

"What we call the beginning is often the end.And to make an end is to make a beginning.The end is where we start from."

T.S. Eliot

P.S: I have my doubts on both the farmaans,I reserve my comments for that.😉

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

awesome post Charu. I too loved ME for various reasons. Story did move forward from Mamangas angle. We will see her death by wednesday.

Coming to Ruks, earlier I have read posts where people wanted Ruks to take care of JO just like JO did. Now we are seeing it but not enjoying because of Ruks intentions.

Coming to JJ knowing Ruks intention and being normal, I highly doubt it. I do not think its going to happen. To me the Idea of giving baby to Ruks is not fully absorbed by JO, Its slowly sinking and she may start to feel it more closer to her pregnancy and will become harder probably after birth. That said I do not think its going to go till JO giving birth. Ruks is going to be exposed before the twins are born.

Starting next week with Ruks taking care of JO, JO might get an idea of what Ruks is up to. Hoshiyar would definitely pitch into help JJ, I believe. This time for sure Ruks will be caught. There is no escape.