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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 270


an episode carried by two actors mainly, utkarsha naik and sanaya irani, as it's the day to play detective and find arnav ji anyhow, somehow. might have been interesting, but for the decision to go funny, almost comic, while on a desperate search to find the man who makes khushi's heart beat faster.

no, not just that. with whom her heartbeat is one.

hamari dhadkaney ek ho jati hai.

when you are close to me, our heartbeats become one, a man with flowing tenderness and love had said at a poolside to a girl who wanted to know, why? why does this happen? when you're near me my heartbeats quicken?

today that man is in the hands of vile revolver toting men and the girl searches frantically for him.

where exactly do writers think, comedy fits in in the middle of it?

sometimes i really wonder about caring for what you do... not only because you are paid to do it, but because you believe you have the talent to do it, you want to, you almost need to. writing somewhere is a bit of compulsion... i write enough and more to have started to understand that.

i can never ever understand why writers lost it because one actor would not be around for a bit over a month... though actually he was available to shoot often... and it was quite possible to stay sane and centred through this not too long a span of time.

after the spectacular 266 and 267, what makes a writer come to 269 or 270 or 271... i just don't get.

sanaya irani is a powerful actress.

the love story is absolutely established.

the viewer is engrossed in it. there are beautiful scenes that may be brought on through flashbacks and other means. or, i am sure there are many rushes, especially of the two hugs and the hut sequence that can be edited differently and used. what's more, barun sobti will come in for a shoot every now and then so you can have fresh shots...

surely one can stay cogent while telling the tale of asr's kidnap and not turn to disjointed story, strange comedy, and a tinny feel to it all. instead of fretting about what will happen if the audience misses barun, had they taken this opportunity to give the whole kidnap tale meaning i have a feeling this turning to ridiculous comedy might not have happened.

in fact, now that i think, it was the ideal time to really develop why the kidnap, why the will was important, what the whole thing was about...

and what happened to the directors? that opening sequence of someone trying to drop something on mami ji, or the chase in the toy shop... why so fake? when the same guys are doing the beautifully shot hugs and hut?

also, no matter what, asr's wife and aunt cannot be shown haring around delhi in autos... if they can't use the raizada cars for the sake of anonymity or whatever, both have the wherewithal to hire a car.

after a lot of rushing and hiding and fretting, we came to rocky's kitchen and he pulled a little stunt.

again, something just was not scary about the whole thing.


in fact, while the cloak and dagger stuff was going on at the toy shop, i noticed the teddy type goon had a lot of profile shots... maybe the director was enamoured of profiles for a particular reason.

my one happy moment in 270, mami saying, "exshkooz me, khisko!" nice dialogue. truly bizarre.

Aww indi frustration .. I understand .. we used to sat through 23.5 hrs patiently waiting and then this turns out on our screens.. an obvious wonderment at what exactly the writers were thinking.. if they are any at all. I wonder that about many of the pedestrian stuff, at least which looks like that to my amateur eye, smearing screens of all sizes.. if one doesn't really care to look back what they have created.. but during these episodes I was happy for one thing.. that is Utkarsha Naik. If there is one actor/ character that was allowed to play out to its potential, when many like payal, babuji, akash, were left to fringes, that's her!
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 271

it is of utmost importance to realize that the warrior's approach should be simple-minded sometimes, very simple and straightforward. that makes it very beautiful: you having nothing up your sleeve; therefore a sense of genuineness comes through. that is decency.
~~~chogyam trungpa~~~



there was something obscene and real about rocky, the character and also his actor. a thoughtless brutality in him. the idea of flinging chilli powder into his eyes was not a bad one i thought, though the scene felt a bit flat.

what i did enjoy though, was manorama's anger. her need to come flying back to give him a few thwacks with a ladle or whatever. how dare he touch her arnav bitwa. i have been thinking these past few days that the other really good actor in ipk was utkarsha naik... she got her character and knew instinctively how to give mami ji dimension without messing with the exaggerated caricature sketch... something really thrilling about good acting, for me at least. can even make me completely forget bad or mediocre writing. that sense of connection, it brings me in front of the screen...

manorama comes, unlike the raizadas, from a tougher world, survival is key here, you must learn the art... she is a feisty nasty survivor... very difficult to take down really. and just as asr has a funny soft corner for this strange crass woman, so does she for her formidable nephew in law, never mind that he is more successful than her akash bitwa... in fact that success itself she perhaps is even more attracted to and awed by. lovely relationship there between manorama and arnav bitwa.

khushi clings to mami ji after mami saves her, "shukriya, mami ji" she knows rocky was quite capable of pulling that trigger. manorama has just saved her life. a bond is being established between the two bahus of the raizadas... and when i saw it the first time since i had no idea of what was to come, i thoroughly enjoyed this growth of a new friendship between two unlikely candidates. felt real and yes, very ipk. remember that little dhak dhak between bedi ji and bua ji? i even enjoyed manorama struggling to remain crusty and calling her phattee sari... she likes being her weird self and does not want to seem

kidnapper said, "dammit"?!!!

what, he watches ipk, is it?

next thing i know there is shyam in silhouette... he looked so familiar, but as i have mentioned elsewhere, i kept thinking he is the stooge, the real baddie was another one... perhaps a sheeshmahal man.

having decoded more than what mr holmes would have from a restaurant bill, the detectives arrive at yet another warehouse sort of place.


and then suddenly, bits of filthy vest and a man with hands tied behind his back, black pants...

blindfold.

asr is in a godown like space, teetering, lost...trying to feel the room, read it despite that blindfold.

he falls against a high stool, he kicks it... there's still plenty fight in him.

what have they done to him...asr... i am horrified really, it was so painful to watch these scenes... i wanted to laugh it off and say, "yaar, this is a silly serial, relax..." i could not. not even on my nth view.


the raw, screaming shots, the harsh heartless air, a lean man, wiry and determined with a cruel blindfold and hands flicked behind him, bound.seemed the director had suddenly found focus and joy again.

he is trying to assess the space. he is trying to kick open a door... "yaaa!" he yells as he summons all his strength to tell his foe he is not down. not yet. never.

suddenly... "boss agaye", the boss is here, off screen.

shyam arrives, shots in silhouette all through. he sits on a rocking chair. why this added drama? there is talk of the two women and how the girl just wouldn't let go.

asr hears this on the other side of the door. he feels things, and in that state barun emotes asr's need, his desperate fear that khushi might be in danger...

a quiet voice in him, a voice that so wants to see khushi safe, so wants to never let any harm come to her... this is the man who dragged her up the temple steps, this is the man who threw himself in the way of danger for her... everything really for her...

"nahin khushi, tumhe yahan nahin ana chahiye, i really i really hope tum yahan nahin pahunchi ho..." no khushi you should not come here... i really really hope you haven't reached here... lovely take... the mind is still asr... cool, edge of anger... just love.

"main nahin chahta tum wapas kissi musibat mein phas jaao... no khushi no," i don't want you to get into trouble again.

he is fearful for her... he can't stop worrying.

and as the thoughts come, a sensation... that gust of wind...

she feels it too sitting somewhere outside...

the sensing... corny yes, but he convinces me, so does she...

"mami ji, humara dil kah raha ki arnav ji yahin kahin hain..." mami ji, my heart says arnav ji is somewhere here. and rabba vey fills the air. was it a ridiculous rabba vey? i don't know. i liked it... i think they can sense each other... people who care deeply can. and there was something poignant and beautiful really in the connection they felt, in a man with his eyes closed but his heart all seeing, a girl with fear choking her but her heart strong and in love.

why is shyam pointing at people and getting all melodramatic? suddenly he is hyped up and like a villain from amasala movie, the "boss"... what he woud be the next shakal, mugambo, or what gabbar... abhaas actually mentioned joker once i think. shyam wishes.

in the mean time, the man is going nuts kicking the door. he wants to get these guys riled... i love this reading of asr. he is not one to sit quietly, fearing detection, death... he rages, he defies, he demands acknowledgement, he plans, he fights back.

"bilkul teda hai yeh," absolutely not straight is he, complains rocky. yes. teda... that's what he is.

she wears a teda choti showing her tedaness... and he is teda incarnate... so rocky, try as you might that "dammit" won't make you him. you are too straight and predictable.

four vicious large men walk in to take on the thin, fearless one. they draw him into a fight... the egregious uncouthness of the whole thing. his hands are tied, he can't see. and they surround him, baiting.

asr moves beautifully, sensing, slicing the air with his hands and legs, scoring... a ballet like feel to the sequence. a harsh ballet though.. again i think of jason bourne and his memories of fighting blindfolded... che sah, the words that whisper in him... a blurred memory, like an echo around these scenes...

we have seen many sides of asr... the tycoon, the arrogant ruthless businessman, the loving brother, the hurting son, the rebel, the heartless one, the man in command, the irate husband, the atheist, the intelligent manipulator, the mate, the lover... it was now another side coming into focus... the warrior.

physically and in the mind, he is a warrior. and among the most magnificent of them.

i found the treatment almost like big screen movies and that vest was so so filthy and the man absolutely into the role... magnificent, i couldn't help but think... and i really felt terrible watching him suffer, then elated when he scored... the asr music played of course and i did sort of smile.

but finally it was time to get down to business, the quarry had been played with enough. it was time for chloroform and knockout...

then three men carried the beautiful warrior out and a rabba ve had to raise its wail as he is taken away. and like the payal... the blindfold fell..


watching him being taken away, his wife almost lost her mind... a terrible moment. it was also a beautiful one... she loved him, keeping sane in that state was not possible, they were taking her arnav ji away, so even though her mind noted the rgect warnings from mami ji, her instincts would not be curbed, she rushed after the disappearing van yelling at the top of her voice, "arnav ji! arnav ji..." her life was in that can, nothing else mattered.

move swift as the wind and closely-formed as the wood. attack like the fire and be still as the mountain.
~~~ sun tzu, the art of war~~~

when he came to, he was sprawled on a sofa. again instinct, he balled his fist, ready to fight... he was in danger he seemed to know... nice direction, that fist. he woke up, looked around, mind ticking, he stood up and searched, a crack in the door showed him a posse of men outide... what eh couldn't see was shyam in black in an elaborate set up designed to hide him giving instructions with his hands... not speaking. so he does fear saaley saab... he knows asr is quite capable of figuring out who he is... you know shyam, you are right to fear his mind... it's the writers that decided otherwise... and so despite coming that close to you, he did not recognise you.

the first time i saw 271 i loved the dramatic fight... not the one at the end, the blindfolded one... but later when i realised kidnap had no meaning, somehow all this violence seemed meaningless and self indulgent. and no, it did not bring in trp.


i like it when it goes all dark in ipk, darkness is a repeated motif here... often the most important truths come to light in the dark or soon after the it is dispelled. a sense of dhoop chaon, chiaroscuro with marked contrast between light and shade in it.

Warrior indeed he felt like there. But some how it was still hard to watch him in that state. Didn't watch parts of it even now.
How shyam turned this hard core criminal all of a sudden is mind boggling. I am sure that must be really expensive to hire the likes of rocky for 2/3 weeks.. and then Anjali wouldn't even get a hint of doubt at his expenses. It is not really hard to induce some real story into the kidnap and a meaning to it. And to top it I could never understand why asr wouldn't see/ know who kidnapped him?? there is absolutely no rationale for that He already saw the ugly side of his BIL, so might as well be another one. you are absolutely right, the way it was made look meaningless, all those fights seemed waste.
that blindfold one is too gut churning, becos he almost always symbolized sheer energy.. and to see him almost life less was to disturbing..
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 272



it wasn't easy getting here to write my thoughts. despite the rather stirring scenes that opened the episode, the emptiness echoing in me seems to override everything.

this time round i know where all this is headed. which is actually... nowhere. this is extreme timepass while everyone waits for barun to be able to give more time. that was really the pity of the whole thing... if that wild violence and beating up of a man led to a story told well, we might have hit classic drama... i recall seeing the untouchables while in my twenties... blood erupting across the screen, spraying on walls, bodies letting go of life and slumpin, gory, terrible. i remember the godfather and its violence. i must have been 15 or 16 when i saw it... but all of that made perfect sense. stayed logged in the memory cells as, ah that was some movie. so good.

here... it all came to naught. pity is really that. because the actor and the henchman were actually pretty neat. better than many, these henchies, geography teacher like rotund boy included.


then there was the elaborate "reveal" of the boss. ah it is shyam. oh it is shyam. really, it is shyam?

much melodrama to get him out of the dark into light as we are brought into it too. first the hand and bracelet of course... oh, i know that... the felt the first time i'd seeen this i think i'd had a sinking feeling of disappointment. making a villain is no easy task...especially the filmi type villainiya shyam finally was moulded to.

yaadon ki baraat. dharmendra in black. ajit is white. i know and everyone else around that ajit is shakal... the man a boy had seen killing his parents. today the boy is all grown up but he remembers the man wore shoes of different sizes. then at the right moment, the man we all loved to mimic... ajit... his legs go up onto the desk at and the different sizes are instantly noticed by the hero... the truth hits dharmendra hard.

it was quite a scene really... smooth, filmy, unreal yet exciting, and this despite not having several six pack torsos onscreen. in fact, i think the hero wore a wig, the villain certainly did. while amjad's brother imtiaz khan looked slithery in orange...

if you'd like to see the scene, it's here on vimeo: http://vimeo.com/65162961

that shoe reveal is in my memory for years and i think the concept was perhaps gypped from an angreji phillum. somehow the blue turquoise bracelet, also kept alive from the first day we met shyam, just doesn't do it. nor does the rather apt dhaiya ho, also with us since day one of shyam. and that i think is mainly to do with the writing, also directing from a distance and acting that is losing touch.

so yeah, seven odd unnecessary minutes. all of it could have been done in a couple. and who reads a will standing out on the road then loudly wonders about how to kill off someone. surely this is not the clever dude, man in black kidnapper? and what's that rocking chair doing there? now which movie was that filched from? psycho? was there a little joke there and a deep prayer to the movie greats to save this shyam this sham this show?

also what happened to the clause about accidental death then? thank g not too many lawyers were ipk fans. one profession and idea too often profaned here. i will never forget asr saying khushi is his legally wedded wife and that meaning nothing to no one. also if legally wedded, would have been nice if they established it somewhere before the show ended.

anyway... asr's beautiful arms, wanting to reach, to do damage, to unmask the offender, very touching. noticed the whole episode was shown through a lot of hand and arm shots... then there were the feet of khushi... and a head coming to close to the boss's feet.

there were two things that sort of did make an impression. one was the little drama three women in brown suits put up for a girl who missed her suited booted man. little did these ladies realise that now she yearns for him in his vest... she sees him crossing the boundary and walking toward her with only desire, pretty naked, in his eyes... or she sees herself running to him in a filthy godown, throwing herself on his blue shirt chest... yeah he had left in a suit, but alas...


very loving scene by three good actresses. and this family love, which managed to stay not nauseating despite it being a hindi soap, where for quite a while effort was made to build individual characters, not even very predictable ones, and the vibe the actors shared was so good, often gave ipk a great place to escape to when everything was off.

along with khushi i lost myself in the sweetness of it. sometimes fam does do weird stuff to make a loved one happy. here they were really bizarre in brown, but oh i did think of the hot one, especially on the morning he walked down the gh verandah looking at her. maybe that was the intention back of director's mind.

and did you notice, anjali spoke of rain? last year's rain. oooph. she remembered two scenes, the khushi sneezing one did not look right... and pity, khushi did not have a flashback of a man rushing out of nowhere and catching her and spinning away taking her to safety. holding her... it seemed for an eternity... like he'd never let her go.

but even without the flashback, the heart swelled and sighed. ah rain. really, chhotey shuts all windows and sleeps with ac on at high? why is he so d real... why?


the other scene was the patch up with dm. i am not much for mixing religion with entertainment. and so often is it used to make you buy some idea or manipulate you. but the concept of ishta devata, your personal god, or rather your personal take on the eternal is i think quite prevalant in hindu thought. i know too little to comment. but i have had mine, and i still do... and this is a private and personal matter.

to that extent, the way khushi's relationship with dm was handled, i really enjoyed it. yeah, there was a bit of the unreal chunari floating thing, but that is fine with me, a bit of flight is always okay in creative things... and really i too have looked for signs, so if khushi reads them... who am i to make fun of her.

but mainly it was her relationship with dm that i really enjoyed and thought was central to khsuhi's personality... helped us see and read her and connect with her too. an orphan girl always chirpy, trying to make things better. that was her strong and revealed side. but surely therew as vulnerability inside? a feelinng that no one was really her '"own"? a fear even and trepidation? surely she quaked and felt tremors inside, just sometimes?

this is an orphan girl's very deep relatiosnhip, made of her own free will, the only the only relationship perhaps, beside with asr, where she has and happily exercises "haque". her right.

right from day one it is there... she is not scared of dm, never fears dm will desert her. she owns and loves and possesess dm. she feeds her what she wants to, chats with her about everything, requests her to show signs, loves her and wants her love. reaches always for her blessings. and then when her whole world crumbles and she has no one to turn to, she goes to her... dm with her unmoving idol, unblinking eyes...

and she fights with dm.

all her anger, all her frustration... all her hurt... every bit of helplessness... and pain sadness confusion fury, with all of it, she goes to the one over whom she has eternal right.

her god.

her dm.

and raves and rants.

and says, go, won't talk to you... katti.

but now, now that such difficulty is upon her... now that the man who tormented her and whose tormenting she d rather live with than the love of another... now that he is in such terrible trouble... and her heart is breaking, her mind ripping at the memory of the state she saw him.. again.. she can go to no one...

but she can go to the one.

the one who is always hers.

whom she can rave and rant at and love and cajole and who will be there no matter what.

her devi maiyya.

khushi's going to see her, straight after the overwhelming moments with her family wearing suits and her heart immersed in missing him, wanting to get him out of the hell he is in, was significant and poignant.

i liked the way the director showed her hesitation with the halting feet. and i did like the way khushi slipped back into her chatty conversing style with dm... and though she did not do too much of drama, she told dm how badly she needed her man. that the same one who had taken her away from dm, brings her back.. don't let him suffer. let me.

for whatever reason... i do think some people actually talk like that and are as desperate to make the one they love feel okay, make them safe.

sanaya was for a few moments again the khushi i knew. i had really liked her raging at devi maiyya the night of suffocating terror and hurt.
khushi had to show her feelings on something... someone... and she had not been turned into achhi bahu yet, so she could do the anger so beautifully. so need to sweeten the whole thing. thank dm.

and today too she slipped back into her relationship with the ease only the deepest of relationships allow... that say, no need to explain, i need you too... and yes, i like the thought that the divine needs to be told your thoughts, your mind... omniscient is the divine but i as human have been given the ability to have free will, that can be exercised only if i can state what it is that i want in the first place.

and when the chunari came via the purohit i was happy for khushi. she needed something today.

something.

and that only her divine one could give.

it was like a master within had reach out and given direction.

perhaps there is a master like that within all of us. and i hope we all find that one within.


can i please hit shyam sham shambles on his snout and please what's with the hairstyle. uff such a waste of an opportunity to create a full masala villain. every hero needs one really. asr deserved better. and that down there was a ridiculous scene... even when i realised director wants me to connect it to the blood that had fallen on shyam's shoe, didn't make me feel better... at all.

Loved reading that about Khushi- DM. Her relationship with dm essentially defined khushi. her peerless confidant. her mitra.. that she can share everything with
And that shoe revelation was a iconic on screen I guess, as I heard, not much of a 70s movie watcher.. and here it was utter deflating to see shyam in that rocking chair.
and the n loopholes in the will.. the tragedy is the kidnap track for the first time brought into focus many aspects like the will, some revengers from the past, shyam's revelation to Anjali.. all of them could have made a great narration, but finally none to be justified.
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episodes 273 -276


disjointed for some reason and utterly flat episodes. no peaks, no troughs, a bland plain where some supposedly interesting angles were introduced but somehow failed to capture interest. though, yes, that khushi getting ready to play the game her way and engage shyam using his weakness, herself, might have, just might have, been terrifically exciting, but again, something was dull... and really if this is the bid, you either go all the way, or not at all.

my take is that at least. the need to constantly show how concerned khushi was about her having to be near shyam, to establish to the viewer that she is such an achchi ladki, i feel weakened the character. at least in the execution of her worry and revulsion.

if we are to say, she is warrior like now, eye only on her aim... of course, this is focussed on in many ways in our epics and somewhere we understand its implications... then khushi ought to be almost ruthless in this pursuit... and if for any reason i want to see khushi trying to grapple with this decision, completely repulsed by the cretin she must befriend and his horrific touch, then it must be her own way... with the requisite sanka.. sorry, that is how i see her character... her switch to jalebi, to talking silly, gives her a break... from this really difficult world... so suddenly to make her mundane and mopey... nahiiin. i protest.

when a perfect stranger whom she had never set eyes on before, incarcerated her, interrogated her, was vicious in his words and completely egregious in action ripping her dori... almost an assault on her sexually at one level, and thanks to which her sister's marriage didn't go through, she got up in the middle of the night and fried jalebi.

we did not think that was weird... we thought this was this girl... khushi started taking shape in our heads. and no, she had no reason to believe he was actually a decent guy, just the opposite. there was a poignancy in her action... funny it may seem but we knew how broken she is, how rotten she felt, and somewhere that man's unbelievable assault was ringing in her. but we saw a fighter too.

i missed that girl in this so called great plot development.

episode 273
khushi ponders whether shyam might be the culprit. lovely scene of her pacing and wondering, hair flying around, given to the moment. she finds out his blood group is o negative, but i wonder can one really give a q-tip soaked in blood and determine blood type. if one can, no problem, but if one can't... why this silliness?

she took care of her sister in law, sounding stern. anjali told us how this reminded her of chhotey. then that comparison between her husband and brother, both being so similar in matters concerning her health.

i always found that mirroring of shyam and asr interesting. both were self made, both individualistic, sharp, men who wanted to lead their lives their own way... yet they were absolute opposites essentially.

she finally accepted it must be shyam... and then did a fairly impetuous thing. i am not sure that was like her. of course, it was the most obvious way to show nk finding out about the kidnap. decently done scene, though a tad obvious.

i like nk's character... his straightforwardness has power in it and speaks again of a personality... this character can evolve in lovely ways i used to think, wonder what he'd be like in love... real heartbreak type love.

he asks if indeed what she says is the truth. i liked the natural dialogues and that energetic nanhe ji thing, the innocence. akshay dogra has said later i think he was a bit upset that karan g was brought in to be khushi's friend in the search for asr. i have to say, i agree with the writers in seeing a better match between kkg and nanhe ji. also that sliiight touch of a man woman thing, given that once nk wanted to go with her on a tareekh adds to this whole thing, plus nk always felt more alive and fun and somehow strong as compared to akash. again my take.

episode 274


at last nk accepts jeeju dear really is the baddie.

"baat arnavji ki hai nanhe ji... hum usse..." it's about arnav ji, khushi lets slip her feelings for her husband before her friend.

nk will of course be like krishna, the friend of draupadi in her hour of trouble. he will protect her when her character is questioned. he will stand by her no matter what... and he will say his piece fearlessly... completely above soap shenanigans of slow motion and extra close ups and stuff... nk is the ultimate normal guy. unheard of in indian soap i think. which is why i have always found him rare. and karan g a pretty neat actor.

of course, he has to say,
"filler mat kijiye!" in stead of "fikar mat kijiye!" nice touch there... this was yet another filler episode and some writer just had to crack a joke.

there raksha puja the next day... for suraksha, safety, and of course it's in asr's name... and of course, if you have to spy around in the enemy's room the only way this can be achieved if you are in ipk is that a havan has to be on at that moment for you to be able to sneak away.

how many times have we seen a havan as a means of establishing something that has nothing to do with the havan? tiring.

and what was that "spying" scene of the detective jodi peering into the room at the door? so no one could see them?

anjali looked so happy and full of hope for her baby, which unethical absolutely useless writer/producer/whoever decided the child had to die? for the longest time i had hoped, ipk would do a soap on me and bring the baby back later. some ridiculous tale of how a nurse took the eight month old child, or even shyam had the child kept alive to use later or whatever. i'd have bought any story. alas.

suddenly an attempt at humour with "hp wahan guzar gaya..." hp has died there instead of "tapak gaya."

the most exaggerated and unreal search for the key to shyam's attache case. a filler in the middle of the week, it was 13 june, wednesday. i must have been irritated that i stayed up till midnight to watch this.

episode 275

a lot of sk travels talk and a boarding pass and passport are found in shyam's 1970s style brief case.

mami was refreshingly weird, and to ward off kidnappers' black magic, suggested wearing nimboo mirchi instead of earrings. i giggled at the senseless nonsense, it was better than things that seemingly made sense.

in order to stop shyam from going to his room and discovering nk, khushi grabs and holds shyam's hand...huh?

the look on shyam's face, ugh.

she comes to get 2 lakh rupees from di, shyam intrigued... the trap shyam game starts. i am giggling at the doh lakh, what a tycoon would casually spend on a bag, one which hasn't even seen. so cute.

episode 276

entrapment is on.

khushi will ensnare shyam and make hi believe she hates asr. there was certain energy to the episode, sanaya was good, shyam overacted.

"sach sunna hai na... toh suniya... kyunki humein sab kuch chahiye, unka paisa, unki ghar, unka business, sab kuch..." she wants everything and that is the truth.

"ek ek tukda!" she wants

"kyun..." why? gobsmacked is our shyam at this new khushi ji.

khushi says she hates both the men.. him and asr. she seeks revenge.

thankfully shyam took a while to swallow this hindi movie story.

suddenly shyam is slapping people in a godown... and the man is there.


i sat up and stared. felt like i was in tune with this alien show again.

someone kicks a box away.. man in white vest, black track pants. it is thursday...

he prowls... uff.

quick hands try to fix a phone... a worry, something sad about him... he needs to be home..

first word... "khushi..."

the phone rings, she picks it up and starts to say hello, but then she stops... she senses it is him.

a wrap of wind around the two lovers. that mehsoos of each other. an endless moment of just knowing you are there.

the hair flies. he stops too, a little intimate pause in a life overlaid with too much reality.

hey hey, hey hey hey, their song is playing. all the signs that say asr khushi love are here and on a day she has decided to trap shyam using herself.


she holds the phone in both hands, as if she holds him, as if she clings to a reality she so badly needs instead of this nightmare they are in.

he is almost sobbing... their is such pain in his expression, as though he is beside himself with an emotion. just a few minutes ago he was dejected, angry, then frantically working to make a phone work... and then his first call, not to anyone else... just khushi.

in the darkness as if he finally saw the purest beam of light and knew once and for all what it was that mattered that he did give a damn about.

i miss the magnificent man in suit and utter command who had found her in the dark one night before rakhi and yelled and screamed and thrown her out of his home. even then he had felt things he couldn't control and worse still, couldn't identify, even now. only now, he doesn't even wish to control it and he has finally identified it.


i love the simplicity of this man once he has given himself to this love.

he starts, "khu..." she too says, "arnav ji!" their words touch and enmesh.

suddenly she is practical... where are you?

she wants to tell him who is behind all this.

but khushi stop stop! please. what he wants to say must be said first.
"nahin pehle mujhe baat karni hai... jo maine kehna hai woh aur bhi zaroori hai..." he apologises for hurting her...

i think, yes, this is the first time they are meeting after the night in the hut... even if on the phone. so that is why he was close to tears, he has hurt her.

it was only barun's heartfelt emotion which made the scene work for me, because i really did not understand the hit on the head bit... the asr i know would never do that. hitting someone on the head can have the most horrendous repercussions...

"you know i will never be able to forgive myself..." he avers. i felt sorry for the man. really.

in the meantime, we realise, this is a trap laid by shyam... the cat and mouse game. he wants to know if khushi will tell him about the call. some truly bad direction and terrible overacting by shyam. i wish they had kept him subtle and nuanced. so wish they had.

there's talk of the sounds asr hears and khushi can too over the phone.. train, bells of a temple. why am i thinking of yaadon ki baraat?

she tells her husband everything but he hears nothing. a little predictable this bit, but something quite stunning in the sudden pull out on asr's face in half shadow. that look in his eyes. how barun understands his character in a situation. laudable really.

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Originally posted by: Horizon

Warrior indeed he felt like there. But some how it was still hard to watch him in that state. Didn't watch parts of it even now.
How shyam turned this hard core criminal all of a sudden is mind boggling. I am sure that must be really expensive to hire the likes of rocky for 2/3 weeks.. and then Anjali wouldn't even get a hint of doubt at his expenses. It is not really hard to induce some real story into the kidnap and a meaning to it. And to top it I could never understand why asr wouldn't see/ know who kidnapped him?? there is absolutely no rationale for that He already saw the ugly side of his BIL, so might as well be another one. you are absolutely right, the way it was made look meaningless, all those fights seemed waste.
that blindfold one is too gut churning, becos he almost always symbolized sheer energy.. and to see him almost life less was to disturbing..



dis.turb.ing. and utterly so.

thanks indu, and so agree they could have had a simple story and logic to this whole kidnap thing.

i wonder if it was just bad writing or a deliberate attempt to nullify the impact of an entire show.

you have remarked how the asr who came back was not the same man. he wasn't.

so story made silly, characters slowly turned upside down, while happily leaking information about cast wanting to leave...

seems like in the real world a scary highly effective shyam was at play. teehee.

oh that rocking chair.

i hate the way they mangled everything.

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Loved reading that about Khushi- DM. Her relationship with dm essentially defined khushi. her peerless confidant. her mitra.. that she can share everything with
And that shoe revelation was a iconic on screen I guess, as I heard, not much of a 70s movie watcher.. and here it was utter deflating to see shyam in that rocking chair.
and the n loopholes in the will.. the tragedy is the kidnap track for the first time brought into focus many aspects like the will, some revengers from the past, shyam's revelation to Anjali.. all of them could have made a great narration, but finally none to be justified.



thanks, indu... yeah, the dm khushi thing never felkt forced... sanaya handled it quite delightfully always. in the way of our soaps almost all female leads are landed with a dev or devi of their own... kanha ji topping the list. there's also ganapati bappa, and allah and whoever seems like they will work with target audience. personally i am not fond of such ploys... to stereotype the ideal girl and whack the audience with religion into submission. but in kkg's case, sanaya so got the heart of it and made it a khushi thing that it stopped hassling me.

yes, you are right, they could have written a good kidnap tale. they didn't. i wonder why.

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Originally posted by: aarwen


Feels good to read your take Indi di. Wanted to fast forward the episode, but still want to talk about it with you all.. hai re nand kisore.. what you wrote about Khushi and her relationship with devi maiyya.. very touching.. I absolutely agree.. ASR deserved all sorts of things, some materialistic and some in thoughts of the people around him.. And never showing the 'legal' side of this marriage.. the man who liked to play 'business business'.. whose wife wrote him IOU's.. he not draw out a legal document.. I refuse to believe.

More talking above.



thanks for reading and chatting.

these are excruciating episodes really, especially for the viewers who watch ipk with real interest. it's like a sudden yanking of standard and sense and most things lovely in the show... the dori is snapped and pearls scatter. 😆

we are looking on aghast. alas it is no asr pulling the dori, it is shyam.

really, why was there no legal document ever shown of the marriage... would have solved all problems of remarriage. but no, let's botch it and have so called trp boosters in the middle of a show that actually did not need such fake boosters for trp once.

and about the melodrama of shyam's reveal.. this was brought on by the director's need to over dramatise his dear villain... while the asr collapsing in the rain scene felt like the natural melodrama we are all confronted with in life at times, when things go nuts. and barun did a marvelous job there. so, what might have felt all wrong came across and shook me from within, that was a man in extreme utter chaos. the second scream before he married khushi, now that one for some reason never quite reached me, felt off.


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Originally posted by: sohara

👏👏👏

it was absolutely wonderful.
In my word fantabulous.
I said so many things above.(in purple).
All the lines in blue are my favorite.
The poem is too deep, perfectly depicted Barun's brilliant acting.



thank you so so much... loved your comments. so he aroused you. hmmm. 😆 😆 i have to agree with you, the actors just took the scene somewhere else. i am missing this lovely intensity and yes, after kidnap, the whole sleeping arrangement was weird beyond belief.

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Episode 271


Last episode I had sadistically hoped that Rocky figure out Khushi and mamiji are hidden right there because he was standing so close and the show wanted us to believe their whispers and churiyon ki khanak would not be heard outside. Still when Rocky with the psychotic glare and gun in hand caught Khushi I felt bad for my traitorous thoughts of wanting this to happen. As I repeatedly like to mention, am watching all this for the first time, or because it was boring my mind has elected to embrace selective amnesia and has forgotten all this from a prior watch. So I also thought if Rocky gets her now she might be locked in with ASR , since the kidnappers are dumb enough to do exactly such a thing, and that might also lead to some nice sequences. Incisive and sanka ideas combined they would be unstoppable by these mere hired second grade kidnappers.
you wanted Khushi to get caught to confine her with Arnav. Then you had to kidnap Barun first from the set of MAMR. But what they would do with hello hi bye bye ?There wouldn't be any hut moment in front of her I guess.😆
What happened next was quite fun to watch. Like a Bollywood movie which is only meant to entertain and has to be taken at its face value without much thought.. Will quote a line from a recent movie.." main bas dil mein aata hun, saajh mein nahi.." Mami went Salman khan like and threw chilli powder on poor Rocky. ASR had pummeled him to pulp last time😆 he met Khushi and not he is hit by a steel kalchul by mamiji. This guy sure is having a bad time these days. Ofcourse he has learnt to say "dammit" from his prisoner it seems. May have been taking style notes from the inherently stylish ASR. And something very sweet about mamiji turning kali maa for Arnav bitwa. Kicks and a little gaali galouch also Manorma ishtyle ma. So there is anger and a deep sense of worry for bitwa somewhere inside the garish comic exterior.
You seemed grew a soft corner for Rocky like pagal larkiyas of forum.😆

However what I didn't like was Khushi acting all abla nari damsel in distress like. Surely she could have used the situation to her advantage. Am not sure how, but am sure she would have known, after all Khushi Kumari Gupta had the ingenuity to add misri in the petrol tank. She also had the courage to face the steely eyed arrogant and devastatingly handsome mean stranger. "Ganga Jamuna daily soap bahut jiade hi hui gaya.. ike stop karike pari.." .. Neatly summed up mamiji. In fact she is exactly like babua, not wanting too much vociferous gratitude from phatee saree.
Boss is definitely Shyam from the silhouette. What I wonder is not the why and hows of the kidnapping or the will, but what prompted the man to take such a drastic step. Sure ASR had made his reach to money more difficult, but men like Shyam with their parasitic tendency veer towards weaseling their way in and keeping people happy to slowly suck blood. They don't go about plotting kidnapping and murder. How he kept everyone in Shantivan and GH happy seems true to character of such a man. A mask of goodness so that he can go off doing his own thing and his wife will not think of suspecting the ideal husband he pretends to be. He would not have the guts to try something this risky. Foremost for such men is their own survival and comfort. Mind games.. sure. Boss and guns and goons.. Daiyya re..
What I wanted to delay is finally on screen now. ASR in a filthy vest. Hands bound behind. Eyes in a blindfold. Jerky awkward movements of a man not able to see. And though there is vitality I feel a sense of helplessness. Energy is his forte.. Not necessarily physical, but in his thoughts, the way he does business, handles stuff.. Everything shouted of power and strength and control. Being restrained must be hell for him. Barun makes me almost want to revert my eyes from the screen, it feels so unnerving seeing ASR this way.
I just couldn't bear him in this state.
Khushi who already suspected Shyam is unable to recognize his profile. Boss does some filmy hand movements. Just pointing his finger and they know what he is saying apparently.
I wonder why mami and Khushi couldn't recognize him by looking at his back. Even how ASR couldn't? there was light in the room, when they confronted. if you know a person really well, you can easily recognize him in a semi dark room. Gosh anything is possible in this hindi soaps.
And then unexpectedly, after four episodes, finally the stirring of my heart.. Did you notice? Barun doesn't even have his famed eyes open and towards us. Only a voiceover, he is not saying his dialogues out loud like every other actor mostly does. Only the straining muscles in his neck. The jaws and adams apple working ferociously. And a truthful disregard to trying to look good, just convey the agony with full sincerity to the viewer. She can't be here. Can't be in danger for his sake again.
hyuk, hyuk, lagraha hai aap bohot karreb se dekhte hai! Aapki husband ko pata hai!😆
He knows she is here.. The neck angles out.. Reaching towards her.. And she feels it too. Has to.

I try to make sense of the characters' actions so the banging on the door does not sit too well with me. I don't think ASR would senselessly loose energy even though he might have wanted to rattle the kidnappers and show them he cannot be tied down. Formal black shoes, black trousers and a grimy banyan.. A man unable to use his eyes or hands fighting three men surrounding him at the same time.. And yet it all felt harrowingly real.. could be a gladiator in an arena in some distant world.. Too real.. I can't even like it because it makes me realize he is in captivity.. He is kidnapped. This isn't his usual corporate playground, uncouth ruthless unfeeling men surround him. Unfairness has a whole different meaning here. His body too lean.. It feels too brutal. It feels too cruel. I can't watch.
Did you notice, in this scene, ASR was hitting the men, But the three men were doing nothing, just trying to tame him.
It was a disturbing scene for me too watch, specially when they covered his face with the black veil.
And then she sees him in a terrible condition, being carried away. The melancholic wail of rabba ve is befitting here. Did I moments ago think this was all a TV show. Hardly.. This is tragedy. What must have Khushi gone through seeing her man reduced to such a state? Everything inside me recoiled seeing him this way. Mami keeps a sane head. Shows strength of her character. And Khushi leaving behind logic and her running after the van simply shows love. .. The three piece suit, the air of ownership, the flair, the panache that ASR personified as he yelled and got things done.. Boo hoo.. This is unbearable really..
Too unbearable and Sanaya was outstanding to emote her pain.


Should we be looking for clues? Then I think they are holding Arnav in some antique shop's warehouse or maybe it is the production house storehouse for sets.
Good observation.
There is an old settee where ASR lies and a rocking chair where boss gets to act like a menacing villian. The lighting and shots of Barun somehow reminded me of Amitabh Bachchan in quite a few movies where he would be caught by the villain.
And why this dubious rocking Shyam with those funny hand gestures?😆 And above all why the senseless extreme violence? Would ASR have lunged at a man when so many people were around to definitely overpower him? Wouldn't it have been smarter to wait and see how the scene plays out? To try and draw out the identity of this fabled 'boss' using brains instead of brawn? And I won't even go into why when Shyam is right in front of ASR, in fact so close that ASR has his hands firmly on the mystery man's collar, yet ASR still doesn't know who he is.😆
I already mentioned above.
Finally I warn all those goondas..in fact consider this a threat.. if you dare hit ASR again like that all of us with mirchi powder, haldi, namak, belnas, kalchuls and whatever we have in our kitchens will descend upon you and haunt you till your death..
I'm ready with machine guns and tanks.😆

Please please don't show him this way.


Nice one Rhea.
All the lines I marked blue are my favorite and my comments are in purple.
Episode-271 and 272 are unbearable to watch, as they showed ASR in such condition. It was so painful indeed.

I loved your perception about Shyam. I also never could imagine he was so cogent to plot such a big kidnapping and could maintain a gang of goons. The man who literally leaded his life on his wife's money was so wealthy to do all big don type work! Or moreover Arnav stinted his bank account too. where did he get all the money to hire those mercenaries! I thought Shyam was a cheap kind of evil, like chechora kind.

I also didn't get why Shyam came in front of ASR? He easily could get caught!
Poor script!
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episode 270


an episode carried by two actors mainly, utkarsha naik and sanaya irani, as it's the day to play detective and find arnav ji anyhow, somehow. might have been interesting, but for the decision to go funny, almost comic, while on a desperate search to find the man who makes khushi's heart beat faster.

no, not just that. with whom her heartbeat is one.

hamari dhadkaney ek ho jati hai.

when you are close to me, our heartbeats become one, a man with flowing tenderness and love had said at a poolside to a girl who wanted to know, why? why does this happen? when you're near me my heartbeats quicken?

today that man is in the hands of vile revolver toting men and the girl searches frantically for him.

where exactly do writers think, comedy fits in in the middle of it?

sometimes i really wonder about caring for what you do... not only because you are paid to do it, but because you believe you have the talent to do it, you want to, you almost need to. writing somewhere is a bit of compulsion... i write enough and more to have started to understand that.

i can never ever understand why writers lost it because one actor would not be around for a bit over a month... though actually he was available to shoot often... and it was quite possible to stay sane and centred through this not too long a span of time.

after the spectacular 266 and 267, what makes a writer come to 269 or 270 or 271... i just don't get.

sanaya irani is a powerful actress.

the love story is absolutely established.

the viewer is engrossed in it. there are beautiful scenes that may be brought on through flashbacks and other means. or, i am sure there are many rushes, especially of the two hugs and the hut sequence that can be edited differently and used. what's more, barun sobti will come in for a shoot every now and then so you can have fresh shots...

surely one can stay cogent while telling the tale of asr's kidnap and not turn to disjointed story, strange comedy, and a tinny feel to it all. instead of fretting about what will happen if the audience misses barun, had they taken this opportunity to give the whole kidnap tale meaning i have a feeling this turning to ridiculous comedy might not have happened.

in fact, now that i think, it was the ideal time to really develop why the kidnap, why the will was important, what the whole thing was about...

and what happened to the directors? that opening sequence of someone trying to drop something on mami ji, or the chase in the toy shop... why so fake? when the same guys are doing the beautifully shot hugs and hut?

also, no matter what, asr's wife and aunt cannot be shown haring around delhi in autos... if they can't use the raizada cars for the sake of anonymity or whatever, both have the wherewithal to hire a car.

after a lot of rushing and hiding and fretting, we came to rocky's kitchen and he pulled a little stunt.

again, something just was not scary about the whole thing.


in fact, while the cloak and dagger stuff was going on at the toy shop, i noticed the teddy type goon had a lot of profile shots... maybe the director was enamoured of profiles for a particular reason. 😆

my one happy moment in 270, mami saying, "exshkooz me, khisko!" nice dialogue. truly bizarre.


Yes Indi, it was a filler or what, I just couldn't get it.
That toy store was so fake! and your comment on that black teddy bear Gunday was hilarious. The director suddenly had a delusion after shooting that sexy profile.😆
Tattoo shop, Rocky's house, toy store all seemed mindless. I guess after writing awesome script with Barun, they became reluctant again.
Just assume Barun was not available for shoot, but they easily could build a parallel track with other characters. And this whole kidnapping thing looked so fake!

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