Molesters or Heroes? - Page 10

@ Divider Yes i was actually. I happen to agree with her about how you are completely insensitive / or just ignorant. You want to ask us about our contribution to the world ? Well this, THIS is your contribution >>

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Of course.

Stalking and pushing women around in the name of passion is so romanticized via Bollywood that people think it's a normal thing. Stalk the girl till she is blackmailed into saying yes, because women obviously are senseless creatures who cannot understand the basic difference between No and Yes.

Bollywood movie is the biggest contributor to this rape culture in India. It's not about any particular film of Salman or anyone else. It's all of them. Rape culture is normalized through Bollywood films.

Also want to add onto what the author is say- item songs also propagate to the objectification of women, which is why I can't stand them. Listen closely to some of the lyrics too and you'll see the crap that they spew and how they have provocatively dressed women just so men are provided with eye candy. Gross. Some of the songs integrated into the films are also gross so what else can we expect?

Before I dive into the topic I guess I have to talk about the writer Anna. I used to watch her interviews on the telly and when she left I came to know that she reviewed movies on her blog. Though within weeks of reading her reviews I had to stop. She is someone who I think has "issues" with everything.

For example, I remember in her review of the movie "Cocktail" she spent a good amount of space on how the girl with the Christian name is shown to be a "s**t" and the girl with a Hindu name is shown to be someone who is a sati savitri types, who prays every morning and follows the traditions etc etc. She gave many more examples then went on and on about how the Industry is demeaning towards Christians and only favoring Hindus etc etc.

In another of her reviews for a movie whose name I can't remember right now (Maybe it was CE), she spent a lot of space about how the Hindi movies treat south Indians badly and show them in a very wrong manner and that North Indians are shown to be more intelligent, wealthy and humble etc etc whereas South Indians are shown in a bad light.

I remember the last thing I did was to leave a comment on her blog where I said that "Anna I won't be reading any of your reviews anymore, not because I don't think that the issues you raise are relevant but because reading a review written by you is like going on a date with a girl who has a lot of "issues". I would rather like a review that focuses on the movie itself, maybe you should write a separate article on the problems that you have with the Hindi movie industry".

So this article by her is not the first thing that she has had problems with in Bollywood. She blames Bollywood for everything that is practically wrong with India. Though I agree that the points she raises are valid but still Bollywood is not the only reason why eve teasing or molestation or rapes takes place.

Also I have practically seen these tactics work in real life too. Some of the girls I knew have actually ended up with such guys who pursued them using such tactics. I would go on to say some of them (very very few) girls enjoyed the attention they got. This is where it all becomes messy. Boys notice this, they see that one of their friends "Pataoed" a girl in such a way and they think that each and every girl will be the same, which is absolutely not the case. Many girls suffer because of this and men who fail in their endeavors don't take no for an answer and later on resort to rapes etc.

To summarize I feel that blaming Bollywood alone won't solve the problem that is crime against Women. A person who is seriously dumb enough to think that what happens in movies will happen in real life too is a danger to society no matter he watches movies or not.

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Of course.

Stalking and pushing women around in the name of passion is so romanticized via Bollywood that people think it's a normal thing. Stalk the girl till she is blackmailed into saying yes, because women obviously are senseless creatures who cannot understand the basic difference between No and Yes.

Bollywood movie is the biggest contributor to this rape culture in India. It's not about any particular film of Salman or anyone else. It's all of them. Rape culture is normalized through Bollywood films.

Sadly I agree with every word you said

Originally posted by: DJBhaiJaan

Also I have practically seen these tactics work in real life too. Some of the girls I knew have actually ended up with such guys who pursued them using such tactics. I would go on to say some of them (very very few) girls enjoyed the attention they got. This is where it all becomes messy. Boys notice this, they see that one of their friends "Pataoed" a girl in such a way and they think that each and every girl will be the same, which is absolutely not the case. Many girls suffer because of this and men who fail in their endeavors don't take no for an answer and later on resort to rapes etc.

There are a few reasons why this happens. One is that Bollywood has convinced many nave youth that this is the way courtship works. If a young man consistently pursues a woman, it must mean that he genuinely likes her. If she continues rejecting him, she is perceived as cruel, cold and bitchy. Influenced by the women in movies, she is compelled to eventually accept him because that's how it allegedly should be. So we definitely need to bust myths propagated by movies.

The other reason is gender rules set for women in society. If boys are interested in flirting or dating, it is considered that boys will be boys. If girls have similar interests she is considered loose and immoral. A good girl is supposed to be pure, chaste and not really that interested in boys that way. Also society tells a girl that she must act pricey and get a guy to chase her. If she agrees right away she would be considered too easy, too loose and maybe even boring. That is why even when a girl actually likes a guy and wants to say yes, she gets him to resort to chasing and wooing because gender rules have told her don't say yes right away. And this is a gender rule issue that comes to play even in the west as well. It is not as blatant, but it exists. So the even bigger challenge is to end gender rules and stereotypes that tell people how they should behave.

As to the rest - Completely Agreed that Bollywood is not the only reason why we have rapes and molestation. There are many factors that contribute to rape culture. Society in general is largely the culprit as it allows propagation of such culture unchecked. However, Bollywood is at least a part of the problem. It is also quite an influential part of the problem. So I think Bollywood does warrant questioning and scrutiny. Someone needs to address the problems with Bollywood. This author has chosen to address the issues with Bollywood. There are other men and women out there addressing problems with other aspects of media, addressing gender equality issues in villages, speaking to youth about such issues etc. Every piece of the puzzle in solving the problem is vital and important.