Why do women enter illicit relationships?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Women know that biology and society are against them. I mean they can get pregnant, get illegitimate kids. Society looks down upon them as other women when they have affair with a married man. All tags like home wrecker, mistress and other crude words for them. Society mostly blames women for leading a man astray.
Relations affect women the most as their home/family changes after attaching to a man.

Then why do women get involved in such relationships, ignoring what trouble lies ahead?

How do they hope man will leave his original wife and family? Or that original wife will leave herself or family will kick her out to make way for them? Or that they can carry on this relationship forever without being discovered?

It is like deliberately stepping on quicksand!

I might be wrong. But mostly women from twisted background/deprived/traumatic childhood end up doing such stuff. (Whether you take some movie star who has been working since childhood or was orphaned or for eg, in this serial, Gauri who had childhood history with same guy's family). Why? Is it from inferiority complex? How does possessing an already taken man give them a high?

Then they get frustrated in insecurity. Why when you invited insecurity yourself by entering into a nameless relationship?

Charmed by or in love with a man looks like a very flimsy excuse to risk one's life and reputation...

Just trying to understand psyche behind it...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Gauri's case was slightly different from other women who enter illegitimate relationship. She moved into the relationship knowing it was legal. And when she got to know that it was illegal - it was too late. Her immediate society knew that she was married legally to J. So whether she chose to back out at that point or continue illegitimately, the damage was already done. She was already a victim of name shame and house breaker.

Therefore she chose to continue in a hope that her husband who has chosen her in his adulthood, as opposed to a girl who was forced on him in his childhood, will give her an edge over his legal wife, and ultimately she will win him legally.

For other women- it's hard to comment; I haven't come across any such incident in my immediate society or community. I have mostly read about extramarital affairs or women in illegitimate relationship only on newspapers/ news. Such news is usually about public figures. So based on that I sometimes think, if a man is in a high/powerful position and can offer his mistress all the goodies she wants, then the women tend to get attracted to be in illegitimate relationship. But this may be a biased opinion, as I have not come across any such incident on a known person.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mainly four things--- either all or any one from among them:

1) Daddy issues and need for a paternal protective figure (In case the man is an older one)

2) Gold digging.

3) The lure of the forbidden fruit-- for the "adventurous" ones.

4) The need to showcase themselves as "desirable" and gain an edge over the 'legal' woman. Mainly women with low self-esteem and/or ADHD fall into this trap.
Edited by krystal_watz - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have seen this happening only involving Public figures in real life.I think its about power ;like for eg girls gets crazy for movie stars irrespective of the fact they are married.They desire them ;for the fame;limelight;attention.Dimple was huge fan of rajesh khanna.PC huge fan of SRK.Now co -stars ;like the actress is single while the actor is mrd ;eg jenny and karan.I think it does give them a sense of superiority .Once jenny said all girls wants him but he is mine man.So she enjoys part of man life who is desired by all and she feels like a queen.

But in world away from limelight ;i havent seen happening in real life.But saw many stories on savdhan India.Which means it does happen and very big reason in crimes.People get so crazy that overnight they turn criminals.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I really don't know the answer for this.
In Gauri's case it is completely her choice made out of misguided sense of injustice done to her.
At every step she made a wrong choice.She had two paths before her at every phase of her life and she chose the path that led to disaster.So I can never sympathise with her.

She first came in contact with Singhs and Jagya as a child and she never wanted to get married but wanted to study. Her marriage was nullified by the panchayat it had no legal standing but it was marriage according to the society in which she lived but even her society has deemed it illegitimate.
She should have been glad that the dark shadow of child marriage has passed over but she didn't she took it as an insult which is totally illogical given the fact that she never ever wanted that marriage.

Then she landed at the door step of Singhs because her parents dumped her there.Here instead of getting upset with her parents who first tried to sell her off to Dsa and then tried to get rid of her she was fuming at Singhs for finding her parents and sending her back with them

Then the next time she met Jagya in college.the fact that Jagya is not what he is and is pretending to besomeone else is quite obvious when one noticed him more closely.He used to slip up many a time and try and cover up with some lame excuse.But in her infatuation with him she didn't pay attention to his behaviour which was suspicious.

After the course ended they decided to share the accomodation then only Bhairon realised wht he was upto and cut off his finances only at that time she decided to probe into his history.Mainly because his finances were cut.He informed her that his father was angry with him.Even then she could have moved out because obviously something fishy was going on.But she didn't.

Discovering that her mother had stil preserved her wedding dress itself should have reminded her about how she escaped being a victim of gory tradtion and should have been grateful for the cancelled marriage but she chose to wallow in self pity and filled with vindictive thoughts towards Singhs instead.

Then she came to Jaitser and realised who he was then she was devastated.She had a chance to move away from him.Somebody who tld half truths and a pack of lies over 5 years should never have been trusted but she decided to accept him.He was someone who broke her trust. She did not even give him a chance to earn back the trust she placed him.One night of having shower in rain is enough to convince her of his love for her.So what does that make her ? Somebody who wants to live in an illusion?Someone who is shallow? Someone whose perception of love is so superficial?

She decided to marry him.Why did she marry him? Is he a God's gift to women? What is it so special about him that she felt that she couldn't do without him?Nothing. But she seems to have liked what little she got from him.Looks like she didn't realise that she is entitled to more than what she got from him.

The oher reason for marrying him - just to get back at Singhs and Anandi - Marrying a married man for revenge - Had she had any respect for the institution called marriage she would not have used marriage as a tool for revenge.The other reason for staying back is vengence.Her desire for revenge is much more than her respect for marriage

Then she stepped into Singhs' residence with Jagya - She realised that Anandi was not just a childhood wife but he had actually consummated his marriage and did realise that she has taken an other woman's husband.Even if JA marriage was not legal according to her initial belief it still amounts to snatching another woman's husband she didn't have any qualms. (I am not talking about J here because this post is about Gauri)

She found out that her marriage has no legal standing.She could have walked out on that marriage.Just because she was married in the eyes of the society that doesn't make it alright.She is never his dharmpatni because that status is for Anandi even going by the society rules.That wedding didn't give her rights as a wife legally as well as in the eyes of society simply because she would always be referered as mistress or kept woman because society also accords respect for the first wife only.Had she had any iota self respect she would have walked out of it.It would have been painful but still she would have had her honour intact.This is also because she was settling for less than what she should have gotten from life and the man who called her his wife.

She wanted rights but never thought about the responsibilities that come with being a bahu.She demanded for them unmindful of the fact that they have already have a bahu who was actually their son's legal wife.Instead of keeping herself away from them she would land at them demanding to be accepted.

Going by Gauri's behaviour the reasons for getting into an illicit relation ship
1. Short sighted thinking.Failing to look at the bigger picture
2. Person with no self worth
3. Person who wants to grab what she wants irrespective of the fact whether she is entitiled to it or not
4.Disrespect or disregard for the sanctity of marriage.

I know I am sounding harsh and judgemental but a woman who enters into an illicit relationship is someone whose thinking process itself is deranged.

As for my views on it - I think it has got to do with self worth and also about upbringing that we receive and the values that our parents impart within us.
My mother always used to say that an ultimate insult for a woman is when her husband gets into an extramarital relationship or sleeps with some other woman going by this if a man who has a wife and still looks out for a relationship outside his marriage that man should not be accepted by any woman.

I have not come across women who are in an illicit realtionship so cannot talk about them.

But one thing I know for sure is that being attracted to married man and falling for a married man is not all that uncommon but what prevents women from entering into a relationship is that their own sense of self worth - like questioning themselves is this man worth the trouble?Is one question that helps women getting into these kind of realtionships.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think Gauri's case was different from other women in illicit relationships... for reasons described very well by Missesha and Aparnauma, so wont rehash. In her case, it was some psychotic behaviour to show the singhs that she was indeed a "winner" and that she would not "lose" to them AGAIN. This was not primarily about love, although she had feelings for Jagat, it was about revenge.
Gauri did not ENTER into an illicit relationship knowingly. However, why she continued in it is a mystery to me, after Bhairon told her clearly that anandi was still the legal wife according to law inspite of it having been a child marriage. But as Missesha said, by that time, her friends and all knew that she and Jagat had married... and to go back would have been embarrassing, so she continued on in hope.
I do believe that had it been some other man who had been lying to her and she found out the truth about anandi's existence she would have shown him the door and never agreed to "legally" marry him... but the unique circumstance gauri found herself in of being given a chance to lord it over dadisa and co. by showing them that it was she who had got Jagat was too good to pass up, hence the marriage and the "aashirwaad gaining mission" thereafter at Badi Haveli.
In general, I believe that women who enter into illicit relationships are so deeply damaged in childhood by abusive and critical parents or surroundings that they believe that they are never worthy of being #1 in a man's life and that they are so messed up that no man will ever want them... so they settle for being # 2. At other times, they are so much in love with a man that they believe they will never find anyone else like him.
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Tinoo: Completely agreed with the "deeply damaged by abusive childhood" part. Such people often feel the need to continuously "uplift" themselves in their own eyes and perceive any slight/rejection as a "defeat" and "bog down". They often appear to be extemely self-assured and boastful of themselves and their (perceived) "extra-ordinary" abilities on the surface, yet are uber-sensitive and hyper-vigilant to criticism of any kind.

It is from this mindset that pushes them to try and become over-achievers, and in case of some females, to find "approval" and feel "coveted" by ensnaring another woman's man.

Not talking about Gauri though. As people have already said, hers was a unique case altogether.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dont know how appropriate it is to say abusive childhood could lead to entering such relations...


In gauri case;it was different i feel she knew j was married when she met first;she would never even think about him in that way.

I feel women ( in case who know the guy is married and still.. ) over here arent that serious abt relationship s.They initially feel attracted to the guy.Then the rest follows.Like Sridevi and boney kapoor.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

Dont know how appropriate it is to say abusive childhood could lead to entering such relations...

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Abusive childhood leads to children thinking that they are not "good enough" and not worth the time and the effort to be treated well. People who treat children abusively strip away at their self esteem and when these children grow up, even if the abusers are no longer present in their lives, the messages they received in childhood of not being good enough stay in their mind and they self-perpetuate the stories of self worth that were fed to them.
In case of gauri, we really didn't get to see the rest of her childhood after Bhairon dropped her off at her parents -- the next we saw was her in college mode.
I really wonder how horrible those years might have been for Gauri.
Yes, Bhairon compensated financially for her troubles through funding her medical education...but I am a firm believer that financial compensation can never really compensate for emotional trauma/pain. Those debts and scars will still remain.
Just think about little gauri's (gudiya's) experiences. The child marriage was one thing which she never understood perhaps... but she certainly knew that her parents had abandoned her on the doorsteps of the haveli in the rain. Even a small child will know and feel that rejection.
Then afterwards, when Bhairon returned her back to her parents, do you think it would have been pleasant for her in her home or her village? Her parents would have cursed her as 'manhoos', called her a life-long burden "bojh"... the villagers would taunt her and her parents... this part she has explicitly stated -- about the the "taanas" that she had to face etc. etc. Her younger years and her teenage years must have been a living hell... even if she had bade papa to encourage her and sponsor her education.
On top of which, her mother had carefully kept the childhood shaadi ka joda, as well as the dibbi of sindoor as a structured reminder of her child marriage because burning the bridal sari was "apshagun".
Whether these are all active abuse or passive aggressive abuse is irrelevant. abuse is abuse.
Even if she excelled in studies, the other aspects of her life were no good.
She didn't really know that bhairon had tried to make good the mistake his mother committed by funding her education...so naturally she just assumed that the singhs got off scott-free.
Even the panchayat did not ask dadisa to make any apologies to gauri or her parents. The panchayat only asked dadisa to apologize to anandi because anandi had been wronged.
The only one who got any serious punishment was the matchmaker lady who was banned from arranging any matches for five years thereby depriving her of her bread and butter.
So bottom line is even if gauri excelled in her professional life, she would always have been told that she was no good in her social and parental circles... and therefore she was unable to have a high sense of self-worth I believe.
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Tinoo: Completely agreed with the "deeply damaged by abusive childhood" part. Such people often feel the need to continuously "uplift" themselves in their own eyes and perceive any slight/rejection as a "defeat" and "bog down". They often appear to be extemely self-assured and boastful of themselves and their (perceived) "extra-ordinary" abilities on the surface, yet are uber-sensitive and hyper-vigilant to criticism of any kind.

It is from this mindset that pushes them to try and become over-achievers, and in case of some females, to find "approval" and feel "coveted" by ensnaring another woman's man.

Not talking about Gauri though. As people have already said, hers was a unique case altogether.

Yes, people with self-worth and high self-esteem validate themselves.
People with low self-worth wait for others to validate them (through marriage, through job etc.) so that they can observe the others validating them and then conclude that they are indeed worthy after receiving others' approval.
Gauri desperately wanted to be the bahu of the singhs so that she could observe the singhs validating her and conclude that she was indeed "good enough" ... she felt that she could go back into the past and silence the others in her past who had been laughing at her for being rejected by the singhs - her parents/her neighbours etc. If people could see now that she was indeed deemed acceptable by the singhs, then the others too would find her acceptable... and then she could like herself.

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