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Posted: 11 years ago
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Neetu and manda! We think they are stupid but it's so ironic they are the only two that see the truth and accepts it! Vithal and Kamla are so taken up in their dream they fail to accept the truth although they are seeing it in front their BIG EYES and still they refuse to believe it!
They are no different from Paaki!
They will do everything else besides face the truth! They will lie they will pretend they will turn everything real into blind eye!
The thing is manda and neetu are telling them the facts and they fail to accept it! The same goes for paaki! Rags has already told Paaki that he loves Kalpi and is married to her and she fails to accept it!!
Why do they fail to accept the truth! The only reason and this goes for vithal and Kamla as well as Paaki!! Because their "dreams" will be shattered!!
So in order for them to keep believing they ignore the facts and truth and live in lies!
Vithal and Kamla knows the truth but refuse to believe it because to them the "society" and the world means more to them than anything else! And the same goes for Paaki! It's not she don't know the truth she just refuse to believe it! She compares the rich and the poor, saying the rich will always get the rich and the poor will always be poor!! But what they fail to realize is that the rich and the poor have equal rights as I said in one of my post!
And all that is happening with vithal,Kamla and Paaki was all experienced by ragna! It is that what brought them together! It's what made their love grow and it's always getting stronger and stronger!
So the bottom line is whether they accept the truth or not is still wouldn't prevent ragna from bein together because their love it strong and no matter what happens they will always be together!!
The only thing is that the truth hurts very bad when you accept it! And all their dreams will be shattered! That goes for Paaki, vithal and Kamla!!
I hope you all are understanding my point!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Truth is definitely unpalatable but the question here is not about the truth of their love. It is the truth interpreted in different ways by different people who are all right in their own ways...
The truth for Kamla and Vithal is that Ragzs chose to ditch Kalpi and her love in a humiliating manner and CHOSE to marry Paakhi. He was not forced to do so no matter what his reasons, he left Kalpi for Paakhi and betrayed her. So that's their truth. The second truth for them is that Paakhi is Raghav's legal wife accepted by all and acknowledged by Raghav himself. As Kamla rightfully said Raghav may have put sindoor and married her but she can never publicly claim to be his wife nor will he acknowledge it coz they both know its not the right way. So as parents they are right to try to make their daughter forget a man who though claims to love her and consider her his wife, cannot say so with dignity and respect and in the eyes of society. He will also not leave his present legal wife for her and is still chasing their daughter and making false promises which he may or may not keep. They don't trust him given his past behavior and want her to move on and there's nothing wrong in their thinking. They are right as parents.

Kamla is also right in a way in that Paakhi married Raghav out of love and not knowing that Raghav is marrying her for reveng. (We all know thats not true but Kamla as yet doesn't). Also Raghav chose to marry her and made her his wife ditching Kalpi and Kalpi's love. She was right when she said to Raghav that he never cared for her daughter's future, dignity and her love, all he cared about was his own revenge. Since Paakhi is also in love with Raghav and he married her out of his own free will , she has every right on him as his wife which is true. Raghav made his choice and gave those rights to Pakhi . And just as Kalpi has the right to fight for her love so does Paakhi. So in Kamla's eyes if Paakhi is trying to save her legal marriage she is right and she wishes her success which any mother would want for her child. Kamla believes that Raghav does not really love Kalpi coz if he did he would not have ditched her and could have convinced his mother that he can still seek revenge but cannot live witout kalpi.

Also Kamla is equally right when she says that he could do so only because Kalpi comes from a poor background coz if Vitthal was some powerful businessman Ragzs would have def thought twice before ditching Kalpi. Its because he knows that they cannot do much other than rant and rave he did that to Kalpi.

As for Paakhi, the only truth for her is that she is Raghav's legal wife and so she has more rights on Raghav 's love and has every right to fight for her marriage. Here she fails to understand that love cannot be forced it has to happen. So she can never force Raghav to love her. All she can do is be a good friend and help him achieve his goals and give him a chance to know her better , but she's taken the wrong course of action as she only knows to snatch and win , not win with love. That is what Kamla tried to explain to her but she could not understand and she never will. she rightly said it herslef, now its not about love its about her ego.

As for Raghav the BIGGEST TRUTH is he still does not understand Kalpi's love. He's always taken her for granted and taken advantage of her good and tolerant nature. He has never valued her in a true sense. And that is what is needed for him to realize her true value.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: daisyfields

Truth is definitely unpalatable but the question here is not about the truth of their love. It is the truth interpreted in different ways by different people who are all right in their own ways...

The truth for Kamla and Vithal is that Ragzs chose to ditch Kalpi and her love in a humiliating manner and CHOSE to marry Paakhi. He was not forced to do so no matter what his reasons, he left Kalpi for Paakhi and betrayed her. So that's their truth. The second truth for them is that Paakhi is Raghav's legal wife accepted by all and acknowledged by Raghav himself. As Kamla rightfully said Raghav may have put sindoor and married her but she can never publicly claim to be his wife nor will he acknowledge it coz they both know its not the right way. So as parents they are right to try to make their daughter forget a man who though claims to love her and consider her his wife, cannot say so with dignity and respect and in the eyes of society. He will also not leave his present legal wife for her and is still chasing their daughter and making false promises which he may or may not keep. They don't trust him given his past behavior and want her to move on and there's nothing wrong in their thinking. They are right as parents.

Kamla is also right in a way in that Paakhi married Raghav out of love and not knowing that Raghav is marrying her for reveng. (We all know thats not true but Kamla as yet doesn't). Also Raghav chose to marry her and made her his wife ditching Kalpi and Kalpi's love. She was right when she said to Raghav that he never cared for her daughter's future, dignity and her love, all he cared about was his own revenge. Since Paakhi is also in love with Raghav and he married her out of his own free will , she has every right on him as his wife which is true. Raghav made his choice and gave those rights to Pakhi . And just as Kalpi has the right to fight for her love so does Paakhi. So in Kamla's eyes if Paakhi is trying to save her legal marriage she is right and she wishes her success which any mother would want for her child. Kamla believes that Raghav does not really love Kalpi coz if he did he would not have ditched her and could have convinced his mother that he can still seek revenge but cannot live witout kalpi.

Also Kamla is equally right when she says that he could do so only because Kalpi comes from a poor background coz if Vitthal was some powerful businessman Ragzs would have def thought twice before ditching Kalpi. Its because he knows that they cannot do much other than rant and rave he did that to Kalpi.

As for Paakhi, the only truth for her is that she is Raghav's legal wife and so she has more rights on Raghav 's love and has every right to fight for her marriage. Here she fails to understand that love cannot be forced it has to happen. So she can never force Raghav to love her. All she can do is be a good friend and help him achieve his goals and give him a chance to know her better , but she's taken the wrong course of action as she only knows to snatch and win , not win with love. That is what Kamla tried to explain to her but she could not understand and she never will. she rightly said it herslef, now its not about love its about her ego.

As for Raghav the BIGGEST TRUTH is he still does not understand Kalpi's love. He's always taken her for granted and taken advantage of her good and tolerant nature. He has never valued her in a true sense. And that is what is needed for him to realize her true value.


I understand your point!
But why have they choosen to hide Kalpi and raghav's marriage from everyone?! They know that Kalpi loves raghav and yet still they keep her away from him! If they cared about her they would accept that! And why haven't they spoken to gauri and Paaki together when they know the truth about rags marrying Paak?! All they care about is what they want!! And they are depriving there daughter of her love! If they cared first of all Kamla knowing the kapoors murdered rags father, why did Kamla brought them into her home when she knows they are murderers?! And why didn't they let their daughter Kalpi share her feelings in the whole scenario?! Why only push her at the side?! Do they really care? They are just depriving Kalpi for their own needs!! What Kalpi has found in raghav she will never find in anyone else! She has found love, hope, peace, understanding and trust and much more! All which she has never found in her parents!
Has it ever occurred to anyone that rags did this revenge for the sake of everyone's happiness?! He sacrificed his happiness for all this!! When the truth comes out! Which is that Paaki is not rags legal wife! The kapoors will have no say in anything!! They will not be able to rule Kamla and her family and Kalpi will get her love back as well as her dream! Although vithal and Kamla's dream will be shattered! They will see their daughter happy and also get their dream because they will be living in a fancy high-rise building and I'm sure they will be getting a maid to take care of them something which they always wanted! There dream!! And society will also respect them as they do raghav!! Maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm right! Who knows?! It's my opinion!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yellowdiamond


I understand your point!
But why have they choosen to hide Kalpi and raghav's marriage from everyone?! They know that Kalpi loves raghav and yet still they keep her away from him! If they cared about her they would accept that! And why haven't they spoken to gauri and Paaki together when they know the truth about rags marrying Paak?! All they care about is what they want!! And they are depriving there daughter of her love! If they cared first of all Kamla knowing the kapoors murdered rags father, why did Kamla brought them into her home when she knows they are murderers?! And why didn't they let their daughter Kalpi share her feelings in the whole scenario?! Why only push her at the side?! Do they really care? They are just depriving Kalpi for their own needs!! What Kalpi has found in raghav she will never find in anyone else! She has found love, hope, peace, understanding and trust and much more! All which she has never found in her parents!
Has it ever occurred to anyone that rags did this revenge for the sake of everyone's happiness?! He sacrificed his happiness for all this!! When the truth comes out! Which is that Paaki is not rags legal wife! The kapoors will have no say in anything!! They will not be able to rule Kamla and her family and Kalpi will get her love back as well as her dream! Although vithal and Kamla's dream will be shattered! They will see their daughter happy and also get their dream because they will be living in a fancy high-rise building and I'm sure they will be getting a maid to take care of them something which they always wanted! There dream!! And society will also respect them as they do raghav!! Maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm right! Who knows?! It's my opinion!


@bold..bcoz raghav has not accept her wid dignity..he is still merid in so called samaj eyes...if they told everyone then kalpi ill b introduce as a mistress or home wrecker but not wife..if they let kalpi to meet him its means they r supporting their illigal merg.no parents wants their daughter called as a mistress..y wld they let their daughter to meet wid a merrid man n spcly that person who has ditch her her on their wedin coz of so called revenge...n think if they accept n kalpi keep meeting him n if c bcom pregnt then wat??c ill again humiliate ill raghav accept her ??coz her majboori n badla n all..

On yor view abt supporting murderer is I completely agree wid u..c is wrong but as u kno c is mahaan

@daisyfields...u r absolutely correct each point is valid
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: roohini



@bold..bcoz raghav has not accept her wid dignity..he is still merid in so called samaj eyes...if they told everyone then kalpi ill b introduce as a mistress or home wrecker but not wife..if they let kalpi to meet him its means they r supporting their illigal merg.no parents wants their daughter called as a mistress..y wld they let their daughter to meet wid a merrid man n spcly that person who has ditch her her on their wedin coz of so called revenge...n think if they accept n kalpi keep meeting him n if c bcom pregnt then wat??c ill again humiliate ill raghav accept her ??coz her majboori n badla n all..

On yor view abt supporting murderer is I completely agree wid u..c is wrong but as u kno c is mahaan

@daisyfields...u r absolutely correct each point is valid


Yes I know that! But his dilemma! I understand what you say! Will wait and see what happens! I know they don't want their daughter to be branded as a home wrecker no parents will want that! The thing is they have so much belief and respect for sinddoor and yet they let it pass! Anyway I don't want to say anything more!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes I know that! But his dilemma! I understand what you say! Will wait and see what happens! I know they don't want their daughter to be branded as a home wrecker no parents will want that! The thing is they have so much belief and respect for sinddoor and yet they let it pass! Anyway I don't want to say anything more!



Yes we hav to wait till then we hv to tolerate this crap...yukkk
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Posted: 11 years ago
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But why have they choosen to hide Kalpi and raghav's marriage from everyone?! They know that Kalpi loves raghav and yet still they keep her away from him! If they cared about her they would accept that! And why haven't they spoken to gauri and Paaki together when they know the truth about rags marrying Paak?! All they care about is what they want!! And they are depriving there daughter of her love!
@Di, They are only hiding it coz all said and done it is not legal and morally right in the eyes of society. He is still a married man and their daughter will never be accepted as his wife by sovciety and with dignity.They know she lvoes him but they no longer believe he loves her or that he can be trusted so for her own welfare they'e keeping her away.

His dilemma is what is going to kill his love if he doesn't do something about it. he has to choose between right and wrong.he knows his mother is wrong and staying married to Paakhi when he loves Kalpi is wrong. He knows Paakhi loves him and yet he's encouraging her by being a friend . He himself had once told Sammy that he can never be friends with Paakhi as she will always be a Kapoor for him. Even if his marriage to her is fake he should not encourage her to this extent. And if he was true to his love he would try to get revenge as fast as possible without involving Paakhi and proving to his mom that he doesn't need to stay married to Paakhi. But I guess that much logic would be too much to expect
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: daisyfields

But why have they choosen to hide Kalpi and raghav's marriage from everyone?! They know that Kalpi loves raghav and yet still they keep her away from him! Ifthey cared about her they would accept that! And why haven't they spoken to gauri and Paaki together when they know the truth about rags marrying Paak?! All they care about is what they want!! And they are depriving there daughter of her love!

@Di, They are only hiding it coz all said and done it is not legal and morally right in the eyes of society. He is still a married man and their daughter will never be accepted as his wife by sovciety and with dignity.They know she lvoes him but they no longer believe he loves her or that he can be trusted so for her own welfare they'e keeping her away.

His dilemma is what is going to kill his love if he doesn't do something about it. he has to choose between right and wrong.he knows his mother is wrong and staying married to Paakhi when he loves Kalpi is wrong. He knows Paakhi loves him and yet he's encouraging her by being a friend . He himself had once told Sammy that he can never be friends with Paakhi as she will always be a Kapoor for him. Even if his marriage to her is fake he should not encourage her to this extent. And if he was true to his love he would try to get revenge as fast as possible without involving Paakhi and proving to his mom that he doesn't need to stay married to Paakhi. But I guess that much logic would be too much to expect


But society has already accepted that raghav and Kalpi loves eachother and now it's only for them to find out about marriage! I'm interpreting my opinion based on the fact of their sindoor marriage! And when I say society I mean chawl ppl because that's what Kamla and vithal wants to paint this picture of very good parents!! I understand your views from what's happening in front society eyes! But the fact is society sees everything that vithal and Kamla is trying to hide! Even neetu knows the truth!! And manda!! Vithal and Kamla world revolves around their chawl! An that what they want to prove to the ppl of the chawl that they are perfect parents! I know to some extent the do play the parent role but I believe they are not facing the facts!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Raghav has taken kalpi 4 granted... n how kamla vitthal support raghav kalpi whn raghav himself is unable to speak 4 his love.. nw he is njoying with poo as a frn bt dont he thnk by doing so samaj will lookthm as hpy couple n after 1 yr wat will kalpi get.. that he destroy poo rags relatn.. raghav is at fault.. he can live like frn to poo bt there should be some limits..

Dont knw how many people wants bt i want raghav prove his love to vitthal thn he gets kalpi..not lyk 1 yr cmplte n hpyily accpted by kalpi... i also want raghav taste hw mch it feel whn u see ur beloved 1 with othr... i want pain 4 raghav hw kalpi feel whn she has to wait 4 him...

At present i hate raghav 4 making kalpi 2nd priority.. he must go to meet kalpi..bt no he called her n said i cant come..

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