Idealism Vs Realism - Page 11

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum


But if we take idealism to it's extreme, we would have space-time and its measure as figments of our minds too.😆 Note that we already know that much of "external reality" is something we perceive in a form that is only as real as our perceptions... so what's stopping the big kahuna of spacetime also just being mental constructs. 😆


That's the idea 😊 I am just waiting for someone like Freethinker to jump in and ask for proof. Then it will all come out. Hamiltonians, Noether's theorems, the works! Confuse them sufficiently enough so as to elicit a bogus confession out of them, that, yes, this universe is indeed "unreal" 😆


take algebra. Certain prepositions are true in a certain algebra, false/ impossible/ undefined in different algebras. Even 2 + 2. In fact whoever said 2 plus 2 equals 4 never learned algebra beyond high school.😆

Hmm..I am not quite sure what is going on here. It is true that proving 1+1=2 is tough but nevertheless it can be done. But once we do that, a proof for 2+2=4 should follow easily?




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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.



English please!

😆

Ha ha ha... later K...hopefully
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Angie - Profound and Deep😳!

If my limiting knowledge comprehends this well,then Consciousness on its own is in a state of "being-ness" ,a state of nothing-ness , perhaps can be referred as soul, but when it merges with a form like say human anatomy it develops into am-ness with knowledge and condition adding its growth (via the senses) . Consciousness becomes an internal voice or an internal reality for humans, providing the illusion of righteousness and superiority of our perceptions. This merging is what makes "The Self". But somewhere over the course of time, "Self" or "I" has grown so much that it ceases to recognize its soul or it's "blank state" . This Blank state can be the outside reality which we can never conceive because we have outgrown the phase due to all the learning, senses and conditioning.

^^ probably got too confused with the thoughts, but well ,here is how I see it.

Thanks Genie . I am too disoriented right now to really get all that : )) Hopefully we will be able to continue from where we left...soon.
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Posted: 11 years ago

And I heard your call, now that's some real shit. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Freethinker112



And I heard your call, now that's some real shit. 😆



Free!!!

You don't realize that you are just cataloging conscious experiences; what you think is real is nothing but a heuristic concept 😆

Translation; this sh!t is as real as you were Hugh Laurie.

Postscript: Hope you are doing good. Now, if you could drag in your arch-nemesis Vintage too, we could start our closed door meetings immediately after.
Edited by K.Universe. - 11 years ago

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