Kunti was responsible for karna's insult,not draupadi!!! - Page 2

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

I disagree. Kunti was only responsible for the hurt that Karna suffered on not knowing his parentage, but she was not responsible for all his insults. It's ignorant to lay blame on one person simply because it's easier to do so. Being a suta was not a disgraceful thing. They were simply another caste in those days and many people belonged to it. Did they all feel ashamed to be a suta? NO. Only Karna felt ashamed to be a Suta, because he wanted more in life, and that was his personal choice which Kunti had nothing to do with. Many people insulted him for breaking out of his caste restrictions, but that was a problem of society and it's rules back then, not Kunti.

Neither Kunti nor Draupadi were at fault for what Karna suffered in his life. A part of it was his own karma, and a part was society.

Actually no. Karna was never ashamed of himself being a suta, but when you are insulted and ridiculed for doing things just because of your caste, it gets frustrating. Kunti did not accept him during the time of Rangbhoomi, She was one of main reason for Karna's hardships.

If you have a problem with comments on external sites, then why are you bringing your frustrations on IF??

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

Actually no. Karna was never ashamed of himself being a suta, but you are insulted and ridiculed for doing things just because of your caste, it gets frustrating. Kunti did not accept him during the time of Rangbhoomi, she only went to her to save her sons not Karna.

^ Exactly

People complaining about what they haave seen somewhere else ,etc etc., so why not get into the mud and clean it?, have an argument with the people who insult Draupadi, there is no point complaining here about what you have seen. I have seen tons of abuses for Karna and have gotten into a alot of argument much before I-F, I did not complain once, I expect people to do the same.

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

I get that, I also do believe Kunti loved the Pandavas more as she raised them, but I think it's ignorant to blame her for the insults Karna suffered, because that was a problem of the society as a whole. Kunti's fault was being irresponsible and having out of wedlock. She set a baby afloat on the river which was wrong, but her fault ends there. Once Karna was adopted by Atiratha and Radha, she was no longer his mother so she cannot be held responsible for his life afterwards.

I also do think Karna was at least a little ashamed of being a suta, because if he was not, he would not have accepted the Kingdom of Anga which Duryodhan gave. He would have thanked him for his generosity but politely refused, but his acceptance of Anga symbolized (at least for me) his acceptance of a new caste that might give him more respect.

No, its not ignorant in any possible way.

She can be held directly responsible for every insult Karna suffered. Let me count it for you.

At the Rangbhoomi, he got ridiculed and insulted, Had Kunti ccepted him, he wouldn't have gone through this.

At Draupadi's swayamvar - he gets rejected and ridiculed due to his caste, if Kunti had accepted him, he would have been allowed to take part and most probably would have won too.

I can count more and more.

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

I get that, I also do believe Kunti loved the Pandavas more as she raised them, but I think it's ignorant to blame her for the insults Karna suffered, because that was a problem of the society as a whole. Kunti's fault was being irresponsible and having out of wedlock. She set a baby afloat on the river which was wrong, but her fault ends there. Once Karna was adopted by Atiratha and Radha, she was no longer his mother so she cannot be held responsible for his life afterwards.

I also do think Karna was at least a little ashamed of being a suta, because if he was not, he would not have accepted the Kingdom of Anga which Duryodhan gave. He would have thanked him for his generosity but politely refused, but his acceptance of Anga symbolized (at least for me) his acceptance of a new caste that might give him more respect.

i agree with The watcher here karna wasn't ashamed of being a suta he only felt insulted when he was denied from doing something because of his caste

it wasn't like some one said' hi suta how do you do' because of which he felt bad it was when people said ' you are a suta and cant do this' that he felt bad

there is a difference between the two

and no the fact that he accepted anga does not prove he was ashamed of being a suta he accepted anga becuase he wanted to compete with arjuna and prove that he is better.And accpeting anga was the only way he could have done it .Yes he was ambitious but not for gold and money or some title he was ambitious becuase he wanted to prove he is the world's best archrer.Because of which he accpted anga.If a higher title was all that he wanted he would have accpted krishna ji's offer and become the king in place of yudi

Originally posted by: TheWatcher

No, its not ignorant in any possible way.

She can be held directly responsible for every insult Karna suffered. Let me count it for you.

At the Rangbhoomi, he got ridiculed and insulted, Had Kunti ccepted him, he wouldn't have gone through this.

At Draupadi's swayamvar - he gets rejected and ridiculed due to his caste, if Kunti had accepted him, he would have been allowed to take part and most probably would have won too.

I can count more and more.

Yes, the society is to blame, but who gave them the base to insult him?, Mata Kunti.

You just cannot bring facebook's matter here n abuse Karna fans . Do you know how much I respect her . No you don't . And now mindlessly coming here and abusing Karna fans without knowing anything about this place . You're such a despo dying for cheap publicity . Aur kucch nahin mila toh yahan aa gayi kachra failane ...

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