Shows with substance are never encouraged in India

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Always noticed those shows with a lot of sense never get good trps,where as all the kitchen dramas and saas bahu shows with no logic earn good trps.This is not at all fair.Think we need to do something about it.Rangrasiya is such a beautifu show with good actors and no dragging drama and it feels you are watching a movie not a serial,yet again it is not appreciated good enough.I am very miffed with this attitude.God alone knows when Indian tv shows will evolve like the american shows which are full of new concepts and exciting things.We are like 100 years lagging behind them.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know I cant even understand like few shows I know and even I tried to watch 1-2 epi to know whats in there ? why those gets so hight trp !! but couldn't stand till end of any epi mannn!! really confused what is trp is all about ?? infact I checked online those actors or actresses doesn't even have that crazy fan following, infact no one uploaded scenes eg. we have parud scenes etc .. I cant blv who checks this whole trp thing ??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i am really sick of these topics ... talking about Indian viewers 🥱

people like some shows and they don't like some shows it does not mean Indian audience are waste

at the end people want entertainment and they will like to watch the show which they feel entertained

we like RR so we are watching but talking always about Indian people attitude is not right

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -PD-

i am really sick of these topics ... talking about Indian viewers 🥱

people like some shows and they don't like some shows it does not mean Indian audience are waste

at the end people want entertainment and they will like to watch the show which they feel entertained

we like RR so we are watching but talking always about Indian people attitude is not right



Its not about Indian viewers but TRP garnering audience...n that's only the Indian audience...

Maybe the TV channels should find a different strategy of finding the shows popularity because at the end of the day these points are what matter to the show and its longevity. it also determines the ad prices and pays the bills of the makers and channels.

So either the channels find generalized audience and then measure the TRP or stick to the old audience and crib about not gaining the intelligent audience TRP.

Its a collective effort and change.

No Indians are being targeted here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -PD-

i am really sick of these topics ... talking about Indian viewers 🥱

people like some shows and they don't like some shows it does not mean Indian audience are waste

at the end people want entertainment and they will like to watch the show which they feel entertained

we like RR so we are watching but talking always about Indian people attitude is not right

couldnt agree more
adding to it , i think the shows that are most successful have their vision and mission intact , yes this industry is more like the FMCG industry where quality of background research like segmenting and targeting is critical , they have done a amazing job in connecting with a certain set of audience
arnt the RR guys trying the same segmentation trageting positioning to gather TRPs , not as successful though

i dont think a RR watching group (me included ) is in any way superior or a connoisseur of art to the other desi soap watching
its just i like tea you like coffee
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Originally posted by: highonshows



Its not about Indian viewers but TRP garnering audience...n that's only the Indian audience...

Maybe the TV channels should find a different strategy of finding the shows popularity because at the end of the day these points are what matter to the show and its longevity. it also determines the ad prices and pays the bills of the makers and channels.

So either the channels find generalized audience and then measure the TRP or stick to the old audience and crib about not gaining the intelligent audience TRP.

Its a collective effort and change.

No Indians are being targeted here.



sorry for my burst out but i saw many topics talking about TRP audience as sick people who has no taste
everyone have their own choice of watching the show...

TRP audience not able to connect to RR does not mean TRP audience has no taste and it does not mean RR is bad show

some may felt RR as complicated show to understand and they went for lite show ... reasons can be many
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: highonshows



Its not about Indian viewers but TRP garnering audience...n that's only the Indian audience...

Maybe the TV channels should find a different strategy of finding the shows popularity because at the end of the day these points are what matter to the show and its longevity. it also determines the ad prices and pays the bills of the makers and channels.

So either the channels find generalized audience and then measure the TRP or stick to the old audience and crib about not gaining the intelligent audience TRP.

Its a collective effort and change.

No Indians are being targeted here.

with all due respect , a DABH is higher on popularity index across all scales that we use , whether UK viewership or TRPs or number of tweets , IF being a exception


PS before i am asked to leave and watch the same , let me clarify i cant stand an episode of many of these shows like i cant drink milk , not for me
but can appreciate the accurate work that goes behind in understanding their viewers and delivering what the viewers are satisifed with
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Not to offend anybody,but I only wrote what I observed during all these years.All I want is people to watch all good shows and appreciate those who put in effort to make shows like Rangrasiya.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1

with all due respect , a DABH is higher on popularity index across all scales that we use , whether UK viewership or TRPs or number of tweets , IF being a exception


PS before i am asked to leave and watch the same , let me clarify i cant stand an episode of many of these shows like i cant drink milk , not for me
but can appreciate the accurate work that goes behind in understanding their viewers and delivering what the viewers are satisifed with



Or it could be that ppl are used to a certain flavor at certain time n continue with their loyalty in-spite of no interest only because they are used to the that channel at that time. instead of flipping and watching something else they continue watching.

I agree there could be many reasons.

But the problem is the TRP measuring machines are still attached to the same minor group.
If the shows have changed n its being noticed that the measurements are not coming across accurate then funding should be invested in changing the group to a more varied group n also involve a placebo groups so the results are more accurate.

These machines should be changed after certain time to a different groups on regular bases.

Which gives fair chance to makers, channels and viewers. as opposed to a stereotypical standard audience.

Many factors effects the viewership...

Patterns
Seasons,
Age,
Time,
generation,
states

n thats why the above way of measuring the viewership is fair and more accurate as opposed to current way.
Edited by highonshows - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: highonshows

Or it could be that ppl are used to a certain flavor at certain time n continue with their loyalty in-spite of no interest only because they are used to the that channel at that time. instead of flipping and watching something else they continue watching.
that kind of a product is a example of amazing understanding of behavioural segmentation

I agree there could be many reasons.

But the problem is the TRP measuring machines are still attached to the same minor group.
If the shows have changed n its being noticed that the measurements are not coming across accurate then funding should be invested in changing the group to a more varied group n also involve a placebo groups so the results are more accurate.
trps work on random sampling , it is done so that the data cannot be altered , abos**te numbers may not make sense , but comparison does , it is not a accurate method , but a 11+show i can close my eyes and say is more polpuar than a 2+show , no argument there


These machines should be changed after certain time to a different groups on regular bases.

Which gives fair chance to makers, channels and viewers. as opposed to a stereotypical standard audience.

As far as i know they do , and the theory is if the sample size is good the sample characteristics mimic populations

Many factors effects the viewership...

Patterns
Seasons,
Age,
Time,
generation,
states

like i said 2.1 and 2.4 trps may not be a right judge to gauge which one is more popular , but trps just talk of which bracket the show comes in , that is like a thump rule can be accepted , and UK adopts total viewership , same case there as well , some shows have double viewership , distribution included

n thats why the above way of measuring the viewership is fair and more accurate as opposed to current way.





my issue with trps is that it doesnt take into account involvement , but like HUL makes the best soaps not just because the qulaity is good , but because they know what will click , all shows are like making soaps so have to follow the rules of the game to succeed:-)

no offense buddy , i just feel like we appreciate RR makers , the other guys are also doing a fab job , so why criticize them , i dont think its purely by chance that they are sucessful that all
no offense intended or taken TM and 🤗to you
Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago

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